F17: Worst upgrade ever? - Page 6

hvniekerk · #76 14th June 2012, 04:40 PM

After downloading the F17 DVD, II tried to do an upgrade from F16. This failed because of a too small /boot. Wondering why, because the other machine I upgraded using preupgrade previously went fine. Then I did a clean install, which went fine. And to my surprise even the latest Gnome works without fallback. On F16 I could only use fallback mode or an entirely other desktop, so I had LXDE running.

alxxG · #77 17th June 2012, 02:25 AM

For me its been the easiest upgrade so far and I've been using fedora since fedora 4.

Upgraded 2 pc's and 4 vm's so far from 16 to 17.

Just followed the preupgrade instructions and they worked seamlessly everytime so far.
Few more vm's to go.

Trick is to give it a week or few to let others be the guinea pigs ;-)

hvniekerk · #78 19th June 2012, 07:16 AM

Sine the upgrade from DVD went wrong as well I ended up doing a clean install. To my surprise gnome3 works fine too, which in f16 wouldn't work at all.

griff · #79 20th June 2012, 07:27 PM

Rupert, I realize your post is about the crappy upgrade process, which I will not dispute.... But not to scare people away from Fedora 17; the fresh install of Fedora 17 is, in my opinion the best release in many, many releases (and I see where you also state what a fine release it is). My hat is off to Robyn Bergeron and the entire team for a very nice distro, thanks.

For those afraid to try the upgrade route, there are scripts you can run to collect the 1000's of packages you want to have into a file, then simple run a command like: yum install $(cat mypackages_F16.txt), and you have your packages back.

Again, Fedora 17 is a GREAT release, even the dual monitors came right up. (I only use XFCE, I abandonded gnome desktop (3) when they abandonded people who use their computers for work).

brunson · #80 20th June 2012, 07:33 PM

I upgraded with pre-upgrade and didn't have a single problem.

Dutchy · #81 24th June 2012, 12:44 PM

I just upgraded 3 installations through yum and yet have to find a single thing that is wrong with them (which wasn't the case when going from 15 to 16 where all kind of services started acting up).
So maybe it can be nominated for worst upgrade with preupgrade or DVD upgrade but certainly not with yum!

darkpoison · #82 2nd July 2012, 09:45 AM

I ran preupgrade and all packages where downloaded.After rebooting I got a grub entry(http://fpaste.org/mjxo/) to start the installation process but once it starts booting it drops me to a maintenance shell.(dracut)

Quote:

Originally Posted by griff

For those afraid to try the upgrade route, there are scripts you can run to collect the 1000's of packages you want to have into a file, then simple run a command like: yum install $(cat mypackages_F16.txt), and you have your packages back.

Where we can find those scripts?

***DBelton*** · #83 2nd July 2012, 02:25 PM

Easy way?

Code:

su -
(root password)

rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}\n' | tee mypackages_F16.txt

This will give you a text file with all package names you have installed on your system (one package per line, just package name, no version number, no release number, no Fedora version, no arch)

weitjong · #84 2nd July 2012, 05:40 PM

I usually use below for package comparison.

Code:

$ rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' |sort |uniq

It lists the package names with their corresponding architecture. Really useful for my case where I have x86_64 system with quite a number of i686 packages installed.

AndyW · #85 7th July 2012, 12:49 AM

I would have to agree about this being a "hard" upgrade... I tried upgrading from the x86_64 DVD; the /usr-move script said it failed due to lack of space on the /usr partitioon (even though it seems in fact to have finished), and now it refuses to recognise the FC16 installation at all - even though that still boots perfectly well.

I posted the story here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=281463 as well as raising a bug report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835307 but no response to either. I can't believe I am the only person to have experienced something like this?

Jon Heron · #86 3rd October 2012, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnTaylor1887

The problem lies in "upgrading" via overwriting existing files. I keep the same /home and just delete all config files except .mozilla and .thunderbird and just format /(root) doing a clean install. It took me all of 7 min to install F17 from usb flash drive. Why people insist on "upgrading" is beyond me, when most of the time it presents problems.

Using my method, I keep my /home and can install any distro no problems. But hey, what do I know, it only works everytime.

Hey that sounds great!
Can you please elaborate on how to accomplish that?
I am relatively new to Linux....

Cheers!
Jon