Originally Posted by snoze
Another bumpy ride from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17. Upgrading is a terrible experience, not working. Leran something from Ubuntu and make fedora a nice product.
Sorry I disagree.
Most people do appear to have issues with upgrading although for the hell of it it did do an upgrade on Fedora a few years ago without any issues but it did take a long time (about three times linger compared to a fresh install).
from personal experience I have found that the best upgrade from one major release to another such as going from RHEL 4 to 5 or 5 to 6 is to do a fresh install (the same apples to most Linux/Unix distributions as well). This way you avoid any issues with left over files and start with a clean slate. There is one major proviso and that is your system disk or mirror must be configured with fresh installs in mind.
I do have a spare machine I can practice on first (I also do this for customers) although I do use a virtual machine for generic testing purposes and for home I have a spare laptop . When doing a fresh install of Fedora 17 I initially screwed (suitably red faced) up first since i forgot to format my /boot file-system. Once I realised this I re-installed and had a fully operational Fedora 17 OS (including wireless and fusion extras) within 2 hours. This is why I prefer the DVD over the Live CD since I am not dependent on the network for the initial installation.
After a rest I proceeded to install Fedora 17 on my primary laptop (this I actually use for work as well). The overall time from an rsync of my personal data though the actual installation and configuration of over 2000 packages including installing rpmfusion packages, Google chrome and VLC 2 (nice I can actually watch 10bit codecs now) as well as integrating my users back into the system and an update took me about two and half hours and most of the time I was waiting for things to complete. I even watched a 25 video while I waited for the final update to complete.
It must be noted that I did not need to do a recovery on my personal data since I don't really need to reformat the logical volume it is on, hence a recovery of my data was not required. If I had to recover my data that whole upgrade process would have taken many hours more.
BTW I have installed Ubunto but that was a few years ago and I personally liked Fedora better (each to his own) since i had much more flexibility on my install. I absolutely hate relying on a network install although updates are fine since they are normally small.
The bottom line is I now have two perfectly working Fedora 17 laptops with only a few hours of really quite relaxing work.