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Old 6th September 2012, 01:26 AM
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Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

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Linux Mint founder calls Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"
Sigh... The way the devs are stripping options out of everything in Gnome makes me wonder what they're smoking

Is all this fragmentation good for the Gnome Desktop? (Cinnamon, Mate, Unity, Nemo and who knows what else to come!)

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...e-1699677.html
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Old 6th September 2012, 01:48 AM
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

I really feel sorry for long time Gnome fans. I started using Linux recently enough that I wasn't too set in my ways. So while Gnome was where I cut my Linux teeth, giving it up wasn't like pulling the rug out from under me.

And since then I have used mostly KDE, some XFCE, and both are more than suitable.
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Old 6th September 2012, 02:57 AM
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

After looking at the new Nautilus, methinks ...

... there's a lot to be said for e17 and pcmanfm. <....>
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Old 6th September 2012, 03:05 AM
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

i honestly dont mind the New Naut-3.6 . i didn't like it at first but it aint that bad. from what i have read on the ubuntu forum even some of those users dont mind it. which still can be installed from a PPA
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

I'm going to start my nemo review request soon (in time for f18 release).
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Old 6th September 2012, 06:10 AM
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

I just got finished installing F18 in a VM.. Dang thing took me over 24 hours to get about the same system that I got from just running the install in F17.

For one, I spent nearly all day deleting packages that I normally just uncheck during the install, and they don't get installed. (I removed over 100 packages that I normally don't even install)

But, back to the subject of this thread.

Once I got things set up how I wanted, for the first time I had to give a long string of excludes in my yum.conf file.

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excludes=empathy* telepathy* PackageKit* clutter* evolution* gnome* tracker* nautilus*
What I am wondering is why in the ^%$^% did GDM get installed when I specifically told it NOT to install any of the gnome desktop crap.

But I too looked at nautilus, and it's the biggest, most useless piece of crap that I have seen since the Gnome 3 shell was released.
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I too looked at nautilus, and it's the biggest, most useless piece of crap that I have seen since the Gnome 3 shell was released.
Shirley you can't be serious? Do I really need to say GNOME DOCUMENTS??
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

*sighz* I stand corrected...

Gnome documents is a lot more useless than even the new nautilus (which is hard to do)

I had forgotten about Gnome Documents since I removed it about 5 minutes after I installed it awhile back.
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Everything's fine over here in Openbox + Thunar land
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Everything's fine over here in Openbox + Thunar land
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Sunshine and Joy here too, at Xfce (Thunar) town
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

Seriously, they managed to wreck up a --cking file manager?
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We should probably count ourselves lucky they aren't scrapping nautilus. The iPad users that Gnome 3 is obviously aimed at don't use file managers.
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Well, don't panic folks. All is not lost. Just be ready and willing to dole out some needed "love" and "karma" to Nemo when it becomes necessary.

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Well, don't panic folks. All is not lost. Just be ready and willing to dole out some needed "love" and "karma" to Nemo when it becomes necessary.
IMHO... Clem and crew need to focus on LMDE with Xfce and KDE. And then, I believe, you will be looking at the new Linux desktop power house.

I can not see how all this forking (and splintering) is going to be kind to Unbuntu Unity or Red Hat (Gnome 3).
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Re: Nautilus 3.6 "a catastrophe"

It may eventually end up there. I haven't kept up on doings in the MINT community lately, but they have obviously come fairly close to splitting the sheets with Gnome over the direction Gnome Shell and Nautilus are wandering off to. And given the overall popularity of the distro, that's got to be kinda hard to ignore for the Gnomesters. Although ... something tells me they will indeed try their level best to do so. <....>

For Redhat, I think there is some risk among more traditional markets in sticking with the edgier aspects of Gnome3. Typically, the server/business workstation crowd isn't overly enamoured with whiz-bang, lock-in and bloatware. Especially when tight budgets may not welcome hardware upgrades to meet jumped-up software requirements. But at the same time, fedora is not -- nor wants to be -- known for relatively conservative decisions of that nature.

As I understand it, the Gnomesters have, as a primary goal, the eventual production of a whole distro of their very own in the near future, and in that, I wish them a lot of luck.

Bluntly ... I think they're gonna need it.
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