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Old 28th July 2012, 02:24 PM
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Re: Core developers are leaving GNOME development

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Fogive me if I am wrong:

If it gets to the point where people do not develope for gnome do we not have big issues? As I understand, Xfce, Unity and Cinnamon all rely on GNOME in varying but quite heavy ways? Cinnamon and Unity are the obvious ones, but Xfce uses a lot of GNOME libraries?
Not necessarily. Just because people don't like gnome 3 doesn't mean they don't like the libraries that gnome 3 are built on.

I think the other DEs won't have that much problem keeping up with the libraries.
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Re: Core developers are leaving GNOME development

... And being an equal opportunity offender ... I give you the perfect tweak-gift for the intensely persnickety stuck-in-the-past pre-Gnome(x) sycophant in your life.

http://boingboing.net/2010/03/15/lux...h-made-fr.html

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Old 28th July 2012, 02:59 PM
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Re: Core developers are leaving GNOME development

That article really wasn't a surprise to me.

Reading the comments was more enlightening that the article itself was, though. It seems that there are numerous people that feel the same way that I do about Gnome 3 shell.

While it does have a few nice features, the core system is poorly designed for a desktop computer. Bad enough that users are leaving and using other desktop environments. Sadly, some of those users have been the developers that have contributed quite a lot to Gnome in the past.

While I don't know the reasons that caused the developers to actually leave, I do think that one of the "problems" mentioned in the article was a big factor. The lack of a "goal" or direction the project is heading in. Without some type of goal, it's very hard to design and build a project. Thus, confused or disgruntled developers.

I also get the feeling that there were several developers that submitted good ideas and code to the project, and were told "that's not how we want Gnome to look" as well. Get told something like that more than once or twice, and you stop contributing.

It also does tend to explain some of the big issues people are having with Gnome. If there are only a few people setting the design specifications, then what everybody is stuck with is a narrow minded design. You get what one or two people want.

But as it has been for the past year.. My opinion of Gnome 3 has been like Dan's video.. It may shine, but underneath, it's still #$*&....eeerrrrr crap
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Better to simply let it stand as is and shine in all its ... glory.

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Where were all of you when they went from gnome1 to gnome2?

I still miss galeon, gmc, and sawfish...
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Old 28th July 2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: Core developers are leaving GNOME development

I was around when it went from Gnome 1 to Gnome 2. Was using Gnome since the .99 code freeze back in 1998 (actually had tried it out earlier, but didn't keep it around). Even with all of the problems with Gnome through the years, I stuck with it because it was still a usable desktop environment. Only after trying to use Gnome 3 for over a year did I finally dump Gnome completely.
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Only after trying to use Gnome 3 for over a year did I finally dump Gnome completely.
I used it for thirty minutes and loved it. I will use other wm/de but I doubt I will ever feel like they are anything but a bit kludgy.

I don't think a couple developers leaving means doom and destruction...

I suspect gnome lost some users and I suspect they gained some too. I bet they will continue to gain more too.
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Old 28th July 2012, 09:06 PM
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I guess the "Moment of truth" is when Gnome 3 lands in RHEL. That's when the paying customers will have a say.

I already know what about 1500 desktop RHEL users are going to say, though. And that is just in the one department where I work.
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I guess the "Moment of truth" is when Gnome 3 lands in RHEL. That's when the paying customers will have a say.

I already know what about 1500 desktop RHEL users are going to say, though. And that is just in the one department where I work.
Shouldn't be a problem if only they made the fallback mode up to par with Gnome 2.
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Better to simply let it stand as is and shine in all its ... glory.

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You mean like a glory hole?
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Re: Core developers are leaving GNOME development

Well, from these days' news, the prospect of seeing both GNOME and MS fail in fairly near future just turns me, well, activated
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It does make one just a little giddy, doesn't it. <....>
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It does make one just a little giddy, doesn't it. <....>
In my case that's the beer kicking in
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