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Old 17th July 2012, 02:08 PM
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Post Bumblebee Current Support

Hi,
I'm a fan of Fedora from several years, i do like how it managed and how is packaged quite a lot.

Recently I bought an Asus N53SV shipping an Nvidia Cuda with optimus technology.
I followed some unofficial howto about the Bumblebee project and how to install it on Fedora. 16/17 (there are very few and almost the same, so it you're new to it google otherwise you already know what i'm talking about)

Due to the fact I leave the pc for playing to my children, i was forced to follow the unofficial guide explaining how to use the Nvidia Driver with Bumblebee/BBswitch, 'cause Noveau still lacks support or wine is not using its libraries very well.

In the end, when the installation is finished and pretty well configured (as in howto), the noveau gets disabled while optirun works pretty well, running the nvidia driver over the nvidia card on demand. The drawback of this is that in my normal-life user experience there's not anymore support to the advanced graphical features of gtk 3, which are pretty nice in my opionion. Since here we are quite accostumed to gtk3, we wanted to know if there's somebody out there that succeeded to install Fedora 17 with Bumbleebee while mantaining both Nvidia drivers and 3d accelleration for gtk3 for the intel graphic card.

Something like this shouldn't be impossible, since it works out of the box with debian (same machine), but i still couldn't get to discover what is different in the configuration. They provide a package that automatically ships both bumblebee and nvidia, so it has been difficult to understand.

Do you hane any positive experience with bumblebee? What about nvidia driver and 3d accelleration?

Thank you
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Old 19th July 2012, 08:55 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Hi, I'm currently struggling to get it working. I have 640M card with Optimus and aslo Intel integrated - both connected using Ivy Bridge.

Currently no luck. Nouveau is not supporting my card and nVidia drivers causing Xorg to hang.

Anyway, here is some project with bublebee repo - I think it can help a lot of people in the future.

http://downloads.aelys-info.net/fedora/
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Old 19th July 2012, 06:43 PM
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Talking Re: Bumblebee Current Support

I've added the repository:
http://downloads.aelys-info.net/fedo...c16.noarch.rpm
That is the proper one for my machine, and installed/configured it.

It seems to work, meaning that the system tells me the intel video card is in use and the Gnome is still running 3d accellerated advanced features. Also optirun properly runs over the Nvidia card.

However there is a BIG issue, that is: the Nvidia card is not turned off, and i can see this since the light on my notebook is still white instead of blue (particularity of Asus notebooks). Do you have any idea of how to solve this problem?

### NEWS

I noticed that it wasn't working since obviously BBSWITCH wasn't automatically installed, so i installed it and rebooted the system.
After succeeding in running everything, i updated the Fedora 17 system to the latest version.
Now everything is broken.

When i try to run optirun glxinfo I get this error message:
Quote:
[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)

[ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
Which is very criptic to me.. do you have any experience with this?

Last edited by HashRulesDollar; 19th July 2012 at 09:19 PM. Reason: added some news instead of doubleposting
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Old 20th July 2012, 01:01 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Bumblebee code seems a bit outdated at the moment and it looks like that the newer kernels do not really play nice with it.
I'm currently waiting for the 3.5 release of the Linux kernel which should give big improvements on both gpu drivers and systems with an optimus like configuration.

You can try to debug your setup by running optirun -vv <command or program you want to run>
That should give you slightly more info, also on the github site there is a bug section where you can look.

Last edited by Dutchy; 20th July 2012 at 01:24 AM. Reason: kernel version screw-up
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Old 20th July 2012, 06:21 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

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Bumblebee code seems a bit outdated at the moment and it looks like that the newer kernels do not really play nice with it.
I'm currently waiting for the 3.5 release of the Linux kernel which should give big improvements on both gpu drivers and systems with an optimus like configuration.

You can try to debug your setup by running optirun -vv <command or program you want to run>
That should give you slightly more info, also on the github site there is a bug section where you can look.
Thanks
Well, i've checked every single one thread, and the only solution to my problem seems to be "delete the intel X11/xorg configuration file". The problem is that i don't have that file from the very beginning..

I should give a try to the nvdia driver instead to noveau, but it will take a while
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Old 20th July 2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Hi, I think this one is useful for you:

https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch/

there are cpmmands to check / switch of discrete start.. also on the boot

Good luck with nVidia drivers. They does not work to me..

PS: I have 3.5 kernel from rawhide actually and bbswitch is working well.. as well as on 3.4

Ivan
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Old 3rd August 2012, 10:58 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Hi,

I have a i7 ivy bridge (with Hd4000) and a nvdia GT620M.

I want to disable the nvidia.

It seems that with bbswith I can do that.

But it seems too that if I want to install Bumblebee I need to install some nvidia drivers and play with my xorg configuration.
It sounds a bit paradoxal to have to install nvidia stuff to disable nvidia...

Am I missing something ?
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Old 3rd August 2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

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Hi, I think this one is useful for you:

https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch/

there are cpmmands to check / switch of discrete start.. also on the boot

Good luck with nVidia drivers. They does not work to me..

PS: I have 3.5 kernel from rawhide actually and bbswitch is working well.. as well as on 3.4

Ivan
Thank you Ivan, i already tried in the meanwhile those solutions but didn't work any better.. :-) for now i'll wait as it is, things may always improve.. :-)

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Hi,

I have a i7 ivy bridge (with Hd4000) and a nvdia GT620M.

I want to disable the nvidia.

It seems that with bbswith I can do that.

But it seems too that if I want to install Bumblebee I need to install some nvidia drivers and play with my xorg configuration.
It sounds a bit paradoxal to have to install nvidia stuff to disable nvidia...

Am I missing something ?
Hi :-)
no, bumblebee does not require you to install any nvidia driver.. indeed in fedora it works better out of the box if you don't use them :-) just follow the standard howto, and that will work :-)

Last edited by HashRulesDollar; 3rd August 2012 at 11:12 AM. Reason: Added quote
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Old 3rd August 2012, 11:34 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

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Thank you Ivan, i already tried in the meanwhile those solutions but didn't work any better.. :-) for now i'll wait as it is, things may always improve.. :-)



Hi :-)
no, bumblebee does not require you to install any nvidia driver.. indeed in fedora it works better out of the box if you don't use them :-) just follow the standard howto, and that will work :-)
Cool ! thanks !
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Old 3rd August 2012, 01:32 PM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

MSi GE620 DX Intel HD 3000 and Nvidia GT 653 2GB working just fine with bumblebee.
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Old 4th August 2012, 09:37 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

well, I have no luck with Bumblebee repo mentioned above, however compiled from Git is working fine with Noeveau. by "working good" I mean bbswich, which can disable nVidia card.

current Noeveau driver does not support newest card chips, so we need to wait.

nVidia "out of the box" driver does not work to me at all.

Anyway, kernel 3.5 should bring some advanced support to Optimus as well, as Ivy Bridge improvements, so we need to wait until drivers / SW will use that - in Fedora 18 I suppose.

Ivan
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Old 6th August 2012, 09:17 AM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

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Thank you Ivan, i already tried in the meanwhile those solutions but didn't work any better.. :-) for now i'll wait as it is, things may always improve.. :-)



Hi :-)
no, bumblebee does not require you to install any nvidia driver.. indeed in fedora it works better out of the box if you don't use them :-) just follow the standard howto, and that will work :-)
Hi,
Easy to install and works just fine. It seems to deactivate my Nvidia 620M. It saves around 3 or 4 Watts.

thanks !
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Old 7th August 2012, 03:18 PM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Hi OlivFedora,

May I know which link did you follow?

REgards,
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Old 7th August 2012, 03:55 PM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Hi,

I used this link : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee

In my case I just wanted to install bbswitch. I used the 'dkms' method.
There's a README in the code that explains how to use it.
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Old 7th August 2012, 04:05 PM
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Re: Bumblebee Current Support

Thanks OlivFedora.

I will try for the 2nd with new installations as only XFCE doesn't give a black screen after finish installed(DVD version). Gnome maybe dislike my Asus UX32VD. .

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