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Old 27th June 2012, 08:44 PM
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Question Least troublesome video card - ?

It used to be that nVIDIA was "king", but even Linus "flipped them off" & given the track record on HERE it appears he had good reason. So, given all this, what IS the least troublesome of the bunch?

--- note that I didn't ask "best" as they all have issues, I know...---

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It used to be that nVIDIA was "king", but even Linus "flipped them off" & given the track record on HERE it appears he had good reason. So, given all this, what IS the least troublesome of the bunch?

--- note that I didn't ask "best" as they all have issues, I know...---

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Old 27th June 2012, 09:24 PM
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Re: Least troublesome video card - ?

Yeah, I know he can get rather "mouthy" at times, but I'M not to thrilled with the way nVIDIA is going either, thus the question.
And if they are still #1, then that doesn't say much for video under linux (using proprietary drivers), IMO, as that would mark then ALL as crap.

So far, I'm having pretty good results with the "built in" driver (Nouveau), but they ARE limited. Would be nice if the team can get them up to par on the feature offerings though.
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Depends on the machine and use. My choice is Nvidia in a desktop, but for thermal considerations and simplicity's sake, I use Intel HD (x)000 on laptops these days.
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So far, I'm having pretty good results with the "built in" driver (Nouveau), but they ARE limited.
Probably stating the obvious, but I have stayed away from hybrid (video card) systems. Intel systems with integrated (intel) video has always worked well for me.

Though I am curious about AMD with ATI video cards and Linux support, might be the future go-to hardware for Linux
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Depends on the machine and use. My choice is Nvidia in a desktop, but for thermal considerations and simplicity's sake, I use Intel HD (x)000 on laptops these days.

That is a pretty good point there, I'll keep that in mind.

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Though I am curious about AMD with ATI video cards and Linux support, might be the future go-to hardware for Linux
I'm wondering the same... been hearing that others are having good results, but time will tell.
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Re: Least troublesome video card - ?

This article may say something about the future for linux video cards. I'd say AMD's linux support is going to be a lot more motivated than Nvidia's in the very near future.

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This article may say something about the future for linux video cards. I'd say AMD's linux support is going to be a lot more motivated than Nvidia's in the very near future.

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Sorry to say but, your link seems to circle back to THIS POST.
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Anyone ELSE have any input on this? (before I let it fade away)
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Sorry about that, here's the correct link...
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-and-nres.aspx

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Interesting read. Most interesting to me...

Bear in mind that this school PC project was just a pilot, while the full fledged program aims to place a computer on every desk in China's schools and replace as much paper as possible. While the kids in the West are stuck carrying their books around, the goal in China is to have children carrying no more than one or two paper notebooks, to be replaced with tablets in near future. What is considered science fiction in the West, due to numerous interest groups - is considered a plan in China.

And I am sure at some point China will be labelled as stealing something (Linux and AMD-ATI on machines), due to their pushing forward without high priced licenses from Micro$uck, plus China school children having access to tech while U.S. kids sit in the crap that is stagnate - troll battling - proprietary tech.

My hope would be that we (here in the U.S.) would advance opportunities for our kids, but probably easier to chew on an iShiney and sling mud at other countries who offer knowledge and futures to their kids
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Sorry about that, here's the correct link...
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-and-nres.aspx

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Thanks for the link - a simular story is what triggered this post.

BTW: I feel I must warn those that go to the link that there is extremely foul language in Linus's comments.
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Re: Least troublesome video card - ?

It seems Linus has caused some reaction from at least one Nvidia engineer:

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/0...tent=Google+UK

Perhaps things can change. They, probably rightfully as a market leader, want to protect their intellectual property from their rivals (AMD). They make great cards that are continually rated better than their rivals in performance so for those who dual boot with windows (especially gamers), nvidia products could be an advantage.

If you just need a basic x desktop then nouveau drivers work perfectly well and are free The new generation of cpu's often have graphics capabilities built in; negating the need altogether for a seperate graphics card, unless you need gamers performance. As for Intel I have had nothing but success with their products.
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Old 29th June 2012, 01:38 AM
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Re: Least troublesome video card - ?

This IS giving me (& hopefully others) a lot of food for thought for my next build / NB purchase.

Thanks to all who posted so far, & keep the info flowing! Every little bit helps.
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Re: Least troublesome video card - ?

On a laptop I'd always go an Intel chip. People with those always seem to be having pretty hassle free Linux lives it would seem when it comes to mobile PC's lol.

Unfortunately I made the mistake of getting a laptop with an ATI chip..

My gaming desktop has an NVIDIA GTX460 which is working perfectly...suspending, power management and all. However it must be said, I'm using the Official NVIDIA driver blob.

For a desktop, as I like to have performance available, I'd probably still go NVIDIA in future. Seems games, particularly WINE games and what not have generally behaved better with the NVIDIA card than the ATI GPU I had previously. YMMV and all that though.

And of course if you're not a gamer, than either a NVIDIA or ATI card with the FOSS drivers would probably work fine in a desktop, where thermals/power etc are perhaps not as much of a problem. Ugh sorry if I'm rambling
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