Problem with Fedora 17 DVD

[leonardevens]

I downloaded Fedora-17-x86_64-DVD.iso and checked it against the CHECKSUM. I burnt a DVD using Gnomebaker, and I even compared the iso file to the DVD and they were identical.

But when I tried to boot it, it started going crazy, claiming it couldn't find a floppy and ultimately started loading the installer. But i terminated the process in order to give me time to figure out what is going on.

I have a Dell Precision T3500 with two disks, Windows 7 on /dev/sda and Fedora Linux 14 on /dev/sdb. I installed the latter from DVD without any special problems. I ordinarily boot using the Windows boot loader, but that shouldn't make any difference when booting from the CD/DVD drive.

The machine has no floppy drive. I haven't had any trouble using the CD/DVD drive. I even created a Fedora 17 Live DVD and booted from that.

What in the world is going on? Is Fedora 17 not yet ready for prime time?

[nonamedotc]

I see that error too when I boot from a DVD image. But, my latest DVD is made from TC5 image and I do not if this was a bug.

However, I have continued with the installation and the installation works without any problems in my case. I have used the DVD multiple times and every single installation and the installed system works without any problems.

[leonardevens]

Originally Posted by nonamedotc

I see that error too when I boot from a DVD image. But, my latest DVD is made from TC5 image and I do not if this was a bug.

However, I have continued with the installation and the installation works without any problems in my case. I have used the DVD multiple times and every single installation and the installed system works without any problems.

What is "TC5 image"?

Mine was made by direct download from the Fedora site.

[nonamedotc]

TC5 - Test compose 5 image (pre release image). What I meant was, the "cannot find floppy" error did not affect installation or the installed system.

[leonardevens]

Perhaps I can go ahead with the install and ignore the error message at the beginning. But I would like someone to explain to me what is happening, if possible, and how I might avoid any problems.

Would I be better off installing Fdora 16, provided i can find it at the Fedora site?

Problem installing Fedora 17 on dual boot system.

I had a windows 7/Fedora 14 installation on two disks: /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. I had used
Easy BCD to boot both using the Windows 7 boot loader.

I installed Fedora 7 frssh from the DVD on /dev/sdb, and at the only place I seemed to have a choice I picked putting grub in the first sector of /dev/sdb1 which is mounted as /boot.

But my system doesn't dual boot anymore.

When running Easy BCD, I had the choice of using grub (legacy) in which case I could specify its location as the first sector of /dev/sdb1.
But that doesn't work. There is on the disk a /boot/grub directory but it doesn't have anything in it except a splash screen. When I use this method, I just get the word
GRUB
on the screen and nothing else happens.
Alternately, I could choose grub2. the direcotry /boot/grub2 contains a grub.cfg fille and some other files. the first time I did this, I got put in the grub program, and presumably I could setup grub that way, but the instructions from EASY BCD tell me to find /grub/stage1, but it doesn't appear to exist anywhere in the new Fedora 17.

More recently, I got a newer version of EASY BCD, but when I choose grub 2, it seems to think it is going to be in \D, which is wrong.

In the process of experimenting with this I managed to wipe out the Windows 7 choice for booting.

I managed to fix that, but I am at a loss at how to proceed.

Which grub should I be using? Adn where would grub.conf be?

Any advice would be appreciated.

I installed Fedoar 17, but I am having trouble booting it. While I figure what to do, I would like to boot somehow into my new system.

I found an old grub CD which brings up the grub interface.

Can anyone tell me what information I need to provide to boot my system using grub commands.

Using Fedora 17 Live, I found that I have a /boot/grub directory which only has a splashfile in it and a /boot/grub2 directory which has a whole bunch of things in it including a grub.cfg file. I don't have a gurb.conf file anywhere.

I can of course find the name of the kernal and any other files in /boot which are needed to boot.

So, what grub commands should I issue in order to boot?

Originally Posted by BBQdave

I guess the first thing would be to make sure Windows 7 is OK. If you need to restore your W7 system to proper working order, that would be the priority.

After a stable Windows 7, then install along side (in free space) Fedora 17 with your favorite media.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/...ide/index.html

Windows 7 is booting okay, althgouh I did manage to screw it up somehow with eASY BCD while trying to use that program to set up dual boot. But I was able to restore booting using the Recovery DVD that came with the computer.

I am currently in trouble because I tried to install Fedora 17 with grub put in the first sector of /boot. I then expected to be able to use EASY BCD to program the Windows 7 boot loader to do the dual booting, but I can't get it to work.

One option would be for me to use Linux grub to dual boot, but that means writing to the MBR of the disk on which Windows 7 lies. I don't want to do that if Ican avoid it.

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Originally Posted by rockdoctor

And, if you want to preserve the WIndows bootloader in the mbr, then just install grub into your F17 partition when the installer offers you the option to select where grub should install itself.

I thought I did exactly that. But I can't get easyBCD to find grub in Fedora. See the above remarks for what is in /boot. I can't find the grub files I expect to find there.

I had a system with two disks /dev/sda and /dev/sdb with windows 7 on the first and Fedora 14 on the seecond.

I planned to install Fedora 17 on /dev/sdb using the exist partition, so I put grub in the first sector of /dev/sdb1 (/boot). I then planned as with my previous setup to use the Windows 7 bootloader to boot, but I haven't been able to get it to work. So I thought I would try again.

But I don't see how to put grub in the mbr of /dev/sda, which in the past has been the normal placement. It doesn't seem to be an available option. The choices seem to be the mbr of /dev/sdb or the first sector of /boot.

Do I have to tell the installer that I am installing in both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?

[nonamedotc]

I guess I have never checked what the error means. May be someone else will know.

If you do want to install Fedora 16, go here to download the image.

[Gareth Jones]

The floppy-disk driver isn't automatically loaded into the kernel by the new Udev/Udisk infrastructure, so the installer's boot-scripts explicitly load it so that /dev/fd0 will exist if needed (whatever for I don't know). If you don't actually have a floppy drive, the kernel module will give that error. It's completely harmless (unless you do have a floppy drive and actually want to use it during the install process of course!)

[leonardevens]

Originally Posted by Gareth Jones

The floppy-disk driver isn't automatically loaded into the kernel by the new Udev/Udisk infrastructure, so the installer's boot-scripts explicitly load it so that /dev/fd0 will exist if needed (whatever for I don't know). If you don't actually have a floppy drive, the kernel module will give that error. It's completely harmless (unless you do have a floppy drive and actually want to use it during the install process of course!)

That makes sense. I hope they will fix the script so that it doesn't report an error if there is no floppy drive.

The error screen is very dramatic and it looks as if the world is coming to an end.

[droidhacker]

Originally Posted by leonardevens

That makes sense. I hope they will fix the script so that it doesn't report an error if there is no floppy drive.

The error screen is very dramatic and it looks as if the world is coming to an end.

No, YOU are simply PANICING and thinking that the world is coming to an end.
1) You have no floppy drive.
2) Installer says you have no floppy drive (100% consistent with [1]).
3) Installer loads and seems to work.
4) You panic for no reason and abort.

Where is the problem coming from here? USER ERROR.

[bob]

To solve this problem.... http://www.amazon.com/Bytecc-BT-145-.../dp/B001GUY5HW Once you've installed the worthless hardware, your message should disappear and you'll be able to install Fedora without an issue.

Naturally, you'll want to RMA the floppy drive and ship it back at a cost of $15, waiting 6-8 weeks for your $12.95 to be refunded.

Seriously though, we've all had that "error" pop up and forged ahead anyhow. Considering all the other glitches, this one's not worth the worry.

[pabitra]

I have downloaded and installed Fedora 17 i386 DVD.iso. After installation when I reboot the screen is blank and nothing comes out. I have windows 7 as dual boot. I reverted back to Fedora 12. Please tell me how to boot into Fedora 17.

[Gareth Jones]

Originally Posted by pabitra

I have downloaded and installed Fedora 17 i386 DVD.iso. After installation when I reboot the screen is blank and nothing comes out. I have windows 7 as dual boot. I reverted back to Fedora 12. Please tell me how to boot into Fedora 17.

You should start a new thread unless your problem is related to the floppy-disk error message (which is unlikely!).

Also, we'll need a lot more information to actually be able to offer any help. Do you see the GRUB boot screen? Do you see the "loading linux ..." and "loading initramfs ..." messages? Do you see the Fedora logo at all? What happens if you press Escape when the screen goes blank? Can you boot into single-user mode (by adding " 1" to the kernel command-line in the GRUB menu)?

[marko]

Originally Posted by droidhacker

No, YOU are simply PANICING and thinking that the world is coming to an end.
1) You have no floppy drive.
2) Installer says you have no floppy drive (100% consistent with [1]).
3) Installer loads and seems to work.
4) You panic for no reason and abort.

Where is the problem coming from here? USER ERROR.

@droidhacker:

You are getting close to infringing the forum posting guidelines, please take a look

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?view=guide

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Don't be cruel. We have all been newbies at one point and no one needs someone telling them how stupid they are.

[Dan]

Leonard ... I've merged a bunch of your post together. Here's the deal. One thread per subject per customer. Do not open another thread about your grub problem. Keep it here and work it out here.

Thanks.



Dan

[pabitra]

Originally Posted by Gareth Jones

You should start a new thread unless your problem is related to the floppy-disk error message (which is unlikely!).

Also, we'll need a lot more information to actually be able to offer any help. Do you see the GRUB boot screen? Do you see the "loading linux ..." and "loading initramfs ..." messages? Do you see the Fedora logo at all? What happens if you press Escape when the screen goes blank? Can you boot into single-user mode (by adding " 1" to the kernel command-line in the GRUB menu)?

I don't see GRUB Boot screen neither any message nor any logo nothing happens after pressing Esc. How can I boot into single-user mode ???