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    Impossibly long Boot Time

    running a core i7 2630QM and 8 GB RAM

    boot time until kdm (manually timed) is aprox 1:40

    this is the bootchart output, but i really cant understand a thing of whats in there, so if anyone can lead me i would be very gratefull.
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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    Can't even read it.

    You need to attach the full image...

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    sorry, didnt think photobucket woud scale it

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    try:
    systemd-analyze blame
    it's much easier to figure out and use (it shows a time sorted list with the biggest times on the top and smallest on the bottom of the list.)

    if you also just want a simple totalled up breakdown just do:
    system-analyze

    Like on my machine here, I get for that:
    Startup finished in 2760ms (kernel) + 2437ms (initramfs) + 18853ms (userspace) = 24050ms

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    thanks, this is the output

    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze blame 
     60423ms sm-client.service
     60098ms sendmail.service
     13103ms udev-settle.service
      8358ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
      4751ms systemd-binfmt.service
      4722ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      4300ms fedora-loadmodules.service
      3848ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
      3748ms bootchart.service
      3212ms remount-rootfs.service
      2599ms avahi-daemon.service
      2340ms media.mount
      2330ms sys-kernel-security.mount
      2266ms dev-hugepages.mount
      2260ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      2259ms dev-mqueue.mount
      2101ms sshd-keygen.service
      2090ms ip6tables.service
      2089ms livesys.service
      2088ms iptables.service
      2072ms auditd.service
      1664ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
      1657ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
      1650ms NetworkManager.service
      1573ms sys-kernel-config.mount
      1561ms rsyslog.service
      1490ms systemd-logind.service
      1439ms fedora-readonly.service
      1384ms dbus.service
      1276ms mcelog.service
      1182ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
      1088ms acpid.service
      1073ms abrt-ccpp.service
      1069ms netfs.service
      1058ms abrt-vmcore.service
      1054ms irqbalance.service
      1043ms iscsid.service
       965ms systemd-sysctl.service
       922ms fcoe.service
       845ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
       713ms rpcbind.service
       561ms udev-trigger.service
       548ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
       512ms udev.service
       496ms mnt-Data2.mount
       424ms mnt-Data1.mount
       381ms fedora-storage-init.service
       241ms fedora-wait-storage.service
       218ms boot.mount
       209ms nfs-lock.service
       166ms preload.service
       164ms systemd-user-sessions.service
        81ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
        72ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
        55ms console-kit-daemon.service
        49ms lvm2-monitor.service
        30ms livesys-late.service
        18ms sandbox.service
        17ms nfs-idmap.service
         3ms rtkit-daemon.service
    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze 
    Startup finished in 2144ms (kernel) + 2044ms (initramfs) + 169372ms (userspace) = 173562ms
    so..... now that i have this what should i do? i dont really want to go around breaking my system for disabling a service i shouldnt have.
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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophe
    thanks, this is the output

    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze blame 
     60423ms sm-client.service
     60098ms sendmail.service
    so..... now that i have this what should i do?
    Those two are the biggies, you probably don't even use sendmail (if you don't know then you likely aren't). do this:

    su -
    <root password>
    systemctl stop sm-client.service
    systemctl stop sendmail.service
    systemctl disable sm-client.service
    systemctl disable sendmail.service
    exit
    The next reboot should be much faster

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    mmmm, that didnt seem to work..... to get to kdm still takes more than 1:30
    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze 
    Startup finished in 2132ms (kernel) + 2946ms (initramfs) + 90352ms (userspace) = 95431ms
    $ systemd-analyze blame 
     13904ms udev-settle.service
      8600ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
      7650ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      4706ms systemd-binfmt.service
      4492ms fedora-loadmodules.service
      4394ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
      3978ms bootchart.service
      3577ms avahi-daemon.service
      3548ms NetworkManager.service
      3540ms rsyslog.service
      3287ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
      3267ms livesys.service
      3265ms ip6tables.service
      3264ms iptables.service
      3249ms auditd.service
      3248ms sshd-keygen.service
      3213ms acpid.service
      3159ms abrt-ccpp.service
      3049ms fedora-readonly.service
      2571ms mnt-Data1.mount
      2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
      1828ms abrt-vmcore.service
      1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
      1507ms mcelog.service
      1461ms irqbalance.service
      1201ms media.mount
      1041ms sys-kernel-security.mount
      1033ms dev-hugepages.mount
      1025ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      1018ms dev-mqueue.mount
       914ms dbus.service
       841ms remount-rootfs.service
       807ms udev-trigger.service
       773ms udev.service
       600ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
       593ms fedora-storage-init.service
       572ms systemd-logind.service
       565ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
       557ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
       437ms netfs.service
       429ms systemd-sysctl.service
       424ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
       398ms iscsid.service
       343ms fcoe.service
       290ms nfs-lock.service
       234ms boot.mount
       210ms mnt-Data2.mount
       162ms lvm2-monitor.service
       155ms nfs-idmap.service
       101ms iscsi.service
        92ms systemd-user-sessions.service
        84ms console-kit-daemon.service
        73ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
        30ms sandbox.service
        27ms sys-kernel-config.mount
        24ms preload.service
        20ms livesys-late.service
         5ms rpcbind.service
         2ms rtkit-daemon.service
         0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
    the desktop startup after kdm does seem snappier though
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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophe
    mmmm, that didnt seem to work..... to get to kdm still takes more than 1:30
    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze 
    Startup finished in 2132ms (kernel) + 2946ms (initramfs) +90352ms (userspace) = 95431ms
    $ systemd-analyze blame 
     13904ms udev-settle.service
      8600ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
      7650ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      4706ms systemd-binfmt.service
      4492ms fedora-loadmodules.service
      4394ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
      3978ms bootchart.service
      3577ms avahi-daemon.service
      3548ms NetworkManager.service
      3540ms rsyslog.service
      3287ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
      3267ms livesys.service
      3265ms ip6tables.service
      3264ms iptables.service
      3249ms auditd.service
      3248ms sshd-keygen.service
      3213ms acpid.service
      3159ms abrt-ccpp.service
      3049ms fedora-readonly.service
      2571ms mnt-Data1.mount
      2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
      1828ms abrt-vmcore.service
      1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
      1507ms mcelog.service
      1461ms irqbalance.service
      1201ms media.mount
      1041ms sys-kernel-security.mount
      1033ms dev-hugepages.mount
      1025ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      1018ms dev-mqueue.mount
       914ms dbus.service
       841ms remount-rootfs.service
       807ms udev-trigger.service
       773ms udev.service
       600ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
       593ms fedora-storage-init.service
       572ms systemd-logind.service
       565ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
       557ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
       437ms netfs.service
       429ms systemd-sysctl.service
       424ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
       398ms iscsid.service
       343ms fcoe.service
       290ms nfs-lock.service
       234ms boot.mount
       210ms mnt-Data2.mount
       162ms lvm2-monitor.service
       155ms nfs-idmap.service
       101ms iscsi.service
        92ms systemd-user-sessions.service
        84ms console-kit-daemon.service
        73ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
        30ms sandbox.service
        27ms sys-kernel-config.mount
        24ms preload.service
        20ms livesys-late.service
         5ms rpcbind.service
         2ms rtkit-daemon.service
         0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
    the desktop startup after kdm does seem snappier though
    It did reduce the time a lot, from 174 secs to 95 secs. I think there's something else left that's taking the time that's not listed in the blame list
    Last edited by marko; 24th April 2012 at 04:28 AM.

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    Fedora comes with a lot of stuff you may not need. For instance, if like me you use a very simple disk setup (/dev/sda1 for root, /dev/sda2 for home and /dev/sda3 for swap), you can get rid of a bunch of disk related services that take up a lot of boot time. And if you think abrt reports are useless and don't want to file them you can disable those. Same for mce logs. Same for pcoe services. And so on and so forth. Basically, by removing or disabling the stuff you don't need/use, you'll get a faster, and possibly even stabler and more secure system.

    Below is what a boot up looks like on my intel core-duo with 3GB ddr3 on a 5400 rpm hard-drive.

    [root@nixpad]# systemd-analyze blame
    2419ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
    1706ms remount-rootfs.service
    1549ms systemd-binfmt.service
    1452ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
    1106ms media.mount
    1101ms sys-kernel-security.mount
    1100ms dev-hugepages.mount
    1092ms dev-mqueue.mount
    1091ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
    970ms sys-kernel-config.mount
    842ms colord-sane.service
    679ms udev-trigger.service
    451ms udev.service
    397ms NetworkManager.service
    317ms avahi-daemon.service
    269ms systemd-sysctl.service
    269ms rsyslog.service
    231ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
    230ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
    225ms dkms_autoinstaller.service
    186ms vboxdrv.service
    163ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
    143ms colord.service
    125ms systemd-logind.service
    113ms acpid.service
    107ms irqbalance.service
    104ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
    83ms dbus.service
    73ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    60ms home.mount
    45ms udisks2.service
    25ms accounts-daemon.service
    6ms rtkit-daemon.service
    5ms wpa_supplicant.service
    [root@nixpad]# systemd-analyze
    Startup finished in 2722ms (kernel) + 2105ms (initramfs) + 14147ms (userspace) = 18975ms

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    thanks, taking into account these advice and reading a bit on the web on which services are safe to disable, i managed to speed the process a lot, but im still above the 30 second mark, i think i can get it lower so is there any other service i can give the boot?.
    Code:
    $ systemd-analyze
    Startup finished in 2160ms (kernel) + 3872ms (initramfs) + 24304ms (userspace) = 30337ms
    $ systemd-analyze blame
      5520ms fedora-loadmodules.service
      5132ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      4693ms systemd-binfmt.service
      3959ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
      3947ms mnt-Data1.mount
      3902ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
      2889ms fedora-readonly.service
      1402ms NetworkManager.service
      1373ms avahi-daemon.service
      1326ms udev-trigger.service
      1294ms rsyslog.service
      1004ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
       999ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
       992ms media.mount
       978ms sys-kernel-security.mount
       976ms dev-hugepages.mount
       925ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
       923ms systemd-logind.service
       918ms dev-mqueue.mount
       899ms systemd-sysctl.service
       863ms dbus.service
       764ms udev.service
       626ms netfs.service
       600ms iscsid.service
       596ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
       595ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
       590ms remount-rootfs.service
       588ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
       538ms sandbox.service
       531ms iptables.service
       515ms ip6tables.service
       493ms auditd.service
       484ms sshd-keygen.service
       472ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
       416ms acpid.service
       284ms abrt-ccpp.service
       192ms mnt-Data2.mount
       149ms rpcbind.service
       123ms abrt-vmcore.service
       120ms irqbalance.service
       100ms boot.mount
        87ms nfs-lock.service
        54ms preload.service
        51ms console-kit-daemon.service
        27ms systemd-user-sessions.service
        10ms nfs-idmap.service
         6ms sys-kernel-config.mount
         3ms rtkit-daemon.service
         0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
    edit:
    here's my /etc/fstab just in case (there's another ntfs partition holding win7)
    Code:
    #
    # /etc/fstab
    # Created by anaconda on Tue Apr 10 17:21:01 2012
    #
    # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
    # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
    #
    UUID=3f378778-8da5-4a52-af26-a825f601de8c /                       ext4    defau$
    UUID=2608cfca-2b7e-4799-a2a6-da374ed2a40a /boot                   ext4    defau$
    
    #ntfs
    /dev/sda4                               /mnt/Data2              ntfs-3g default$
    /dev/sdb1                               /mnt/Data1              ntfs-3g default$
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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    To, catastrophe, Am i correct in assuming that you have disabled following services?

    60423ms sm-client.service
    60098ms sendmail.service
    593ms fedora-storage-init.service
    3978ms bootchart.service
    343ms fcoe.service
    3267ms livesys.service
    2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
    20ms livesys-late.service
    162ms lvm2-monitor.service
    1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
    1507ms mcelog.service
    13904ms udev-settle.service
    101ms iscsi.service
    Further have you tried booting by removing ntfs entry from etc/fstab. You can compare the results to find out culprit.

    I think your entry for ntfs in /etc/fstab should be containing 0 0 at the end, however it can be clarified by more knowledgable forum member.

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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    EDIT: Whith these lines, no warenty, nor garanty applyies, do all changes to your system at your own risk!

    The outout ofr /etc/fstab looks like copy pasted from a terminal editor, as it is incomplete and ends with $..

    If you dont use SCSI harddisks, you may disable the "iscsi.service" and "iscsid.service" modules.
    If you dont use a NAS/NFS, you might try to disable the "netfs.service, nfs-idmap.service, nfs-lock.service" modules.

    I'm not very sure how (un-)safe it is to disable: var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount.

    For you to compare:
    Code:
    [simon@l670 bin]$ blame
      4744ms udev-settle.service
      2959ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      2617ms remount-rootfs.service
      2376ms media.mount
      2350ms dev-hugepages.mount
      2326ms sys-kernel-security.mount
      2310ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      2292ms dev-mqueue.mount
      2040ms udev-trigger.service
      1791ms fedora-readonly.service
      1650ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
      1588ms udev.service
      1373ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
      1180ms autofs.service
      1010ms sys-kernel-config.mount
       868ms netfs.service
       588ms NetworkManager.service
       479ms fedora-storage-init.service
       451ms vboxdrv.service
       426ms systemd-sysctl.service
       334ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
       322ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
       303ms rsyslog.service
       300ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
       298ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
       232ms systemd-logind.service
       231ms iptables.service
       213ms auditd.service
       205ms sshd-keygen.service
       194ms home.mount
       191ms avahi-daemon.service
       182ms acpid.service
       173ms vboxweb-service.service
       168ms abrt-ccpp.service
       164ms abrt-vmcore.service
       143ms irqbalance.service
       138ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
       112ms dbus.service
        58ms fedora-wait-storage.service
        49ms vboxballoonctrl-service.service
        49ms console-kit-daemon.service
        39ms dev-sda3.swap
        22ms rtkit-daemon.service
        14ms systemd-user-sessions.service
         0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
    45 services: Total = 39.552 seconds
    Startup finished in 2068ms (kernel) + 4177ms (initramfs) + 11592ms (userspace) = 17838ms
    Code:
    #!/bin/bash
    # | Script written by RupertPumpkin
    systemd-analyze blame|awk '{print $0;sum=sum+$1} END {print NR,"services: Total =",sum/1000,"seconds"}'
    systemd-analyze time
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    Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

    removed all iscsi and nfs-related services:
    Code:
    $ ./blame
      3923ms fedora-loadmodules.service
      3813ms systemd-binfmt.service
      3769ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
      3724ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
      2894ms mnt-Data2.mount
      2664ms mnt-Data1.mount
      2556ms NetworkManager.service
      2508ms avahi-daemon.service
      2495ms rsyslog.service
      2461ms sandbox.service
      2451ms iptables.service
      2431ms ip6tables.service
      2416ms auditd.service
      2413ms sshd-keygen.service
      2395ms acpid.service
      2379ms irqbalance.service
      2314ms fedora-readonly.service
      2304ms systemd-logind.service
      2267ms systemd-user-sessions.service
      2263ms dbus.service
      1890ms udev-trigger.service
      1742ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
      1739ms media.mount
      1726ms sys-kernel-security.mount
      1722ms dev-hugepages.mount
      1706ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
      1700ms dev-mqueue.mount
      1692ms udev.service
       724ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
       717ms remount-rootfs.service
       381ms systemd-sysctl.service
       298ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
       217ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
       198ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
       142ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
       130ms boot.mount
       107ms preload.service
        93ms console-kit-daemon.service
        33ms sys-kernel-config.mount
         2ms rtkit-daemon.service
         1ms rpcbind.service
    41 services: Total = 71.4 seconds
    Startup finished in 2153ms (kernel) + 3395ms (initramfs) + 29010ms (userspace) = 34560ms
    im pretty sure that 71 secs figure for 41 services is, well, abnormal
    comparatively speaking the individual times for some processes seem too high, for example sillav's 397ms networkmanager vs. the 2556ms on mine, among others.



    and my real fstab
    Code:
    #
    # /etc/fstab
    # Created by anaconda on Tue Apr 10 17:21:01 2012
    #
    # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
    # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
    #
    UUID=3f378778-8da5-4a52-af26-a825f601de8c /                       ext4    defaults,user_xattr        1 1
    UUID=2608cfca-2b7e-4799-a2a6-da374ed2a40a /boot                   ext4    defaults        1 2
    
    #ntfs
    /dev/sda4				/mnt/Data2		ntfs-3g	defaults 	0 0
    /dev/sdb1				/mnt/Data1		ntfs-3g	defaults	0 0
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