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Old 24th April 2012, 02:58 AM
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Impossibly long Boot Time

running a core i7 2630QM and 8 GB RAM

boot time until kdm (manually timed) is aprox 1:40

this is the bootchart output, but i really cant understand a thing of whats in there, so if anyone can lead me i would be very gratefull.
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Old 24th April 2012, 03:04 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

Can't even read it.

You need to attach the full image...
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Old 24th April 2012, 03:24 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

sorry, didnt think photobucket woud scale it

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Old 24th April 2012, 03:51 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

try:
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systemd-analyze blame
it's much easier to figure out and use (it shows a time sorted list with the biggest times on the top and smallest on the bottom of the list.)

if you also just want a simple totalled up breakdown just do:
Quote:
system-analyze

Like on my machine here, I get for that:
Quote:
Startup finished in 2760ms (kernel) + 2437ms (initramfs) + 18853ms (userspace) = 24050ms
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Old 24th April 2012, 04:01 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

thanks, this is the output

Code:
$ systemd-analyze blame 
 60423ms sm-client.service
 60098ms sendmail.service
 13103ms udev-settle.service
  8358ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
  4751ms systemd-binfmt.service
  4722ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  4300ms fedora-loadmodules.service
  3848ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
  3748ms bootchart.service
  3212ms remount-rootfs.service
  2599ms avahi-daemon.service
  2340ms media.mount
  2330ms sys-kernel-security.mount
  2266ms dev-hugepages.mount
  2260ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
  2259ms dev-mqueue.mount
  2101ms sshd-keygen.service
  2090ms ip6tables.service
  2089ms livesys.service
  2088ms iptables.service
  2072ms auditd.service
  1664ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
  1657ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
  1650ms NetworkManager.service
  1573ms sys-kernel-config.mount
  1561ms rsyslog.service
  1490ms systemd-logind.service
  1439ms fedora-readonly.service
  1384ms dbus.service
  1276ms mcelog.service
  1182ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
  1088ms acpid.service
  1073ms abrt-ccpp.service
  1069ms netfs.service
  1058ms abrt-vmcore.service
  1054ms irqbalance.service
  1043ms iscsid.service
   965ms systemd-sysctl.service
   922ms fcoe.service
   845ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
   713ms rpcbind.service
   561ms udev-trigger.service
   548ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
   512ms udev.service
   496ms mnt-Data2.mount
   424ms mnt-Data1.mount
   381ms fedora-storage-init.service
   241ms fedora-wait-storage.service
   218ms boot.mount
   209ms nfs-lock.service
   166ms preload.service
   164ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    81ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
    72ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
    55ms console-kit-daemon.service
    49ms lvm2-monitor.service
    30ms livesys-late.service
    18ms sandbox.service
    17ms nfs-idmap.service
     3ms rtkit-daemon.service
Code:
$ systemd-analyze 
Startup finished in 2144ms (kernel) + 2044ms (initramfs) + 169372ms (userspace) = 173562ms
so..... now that i have this what should i do? i dont really want to go around breaking my system for disabling a service i shouldnt have.
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Old 24th April 2012, 04:04 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

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thanks, this is the output

Code:
$ systemd-analyze blame 
 60423ms sm-client.service
 60098ms sendmail.service
so..... now that i have this what should i do?
Those two are the biggies, you probably don't even use sendmail (if you don't know then you likely aren't). do this:

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su -
<root password>
systemctl stop sm-client.service
systemctl stop sendmail.service
systemctl disable sm-client.service
systemctl disable sendmail.service
exit
The next reboot should be much faster
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Old 24th April 2012, 04:23 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

mmmm, that didnt seem to work..... to get to kdm still takes more than 1:30
Code:
$ systemd-analyze 
Startup finished in 2132ms (kernel) + 2946ms (initramfs) + 90352ms (userspace) = 95431ms
$ systemd-analyze blame 
 13904ms udev-settle.service
  8600ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
  7650ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  4706ms systemd-binfmt.service
  4492ms fedora-loadmodules.service
  4394ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
  3978ms bootchart.service
  3577ms avahi-daemon.service
  3548ms NetworkManager.service
  3540ms rsyslog.service
  3287ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
  3267ms livesys.service
  3265ms ip6tables.service
  3264ms iptables.service
  3249ms auditd.service
  3248ms sshd-keygen.service
  3213ms acpid.service
  3159ms abrt-ccpp.service
  3049ms fedora-readonly.service
  2571ms mnt-Data1.mount
  2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
  1828ms abrt-vmcore.service
  1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
  1507ms mcelog.service
  1461ms irqbalance.service
  1201ms media.mount
  1041ms sys-kernel-security.mount
  1033ms dev-hugepages.mount
  1025ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
  1018ms dev-mqueue.mount
   914ms dbus.service
   841ms remount-rootfs.service
   807ms udev-trigger.service
   773ms udev.service
   600ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
   593ms fedora-storage-init.service
   572ms systemd-logind.service
   565ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
   557ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
   437ms netfs.service
   429ms systemd-sysctl.service
   424ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
   398ms iscsid.service
   343ms fcoe.service
   290ms nfs-lock.service
   234ms boot.mount
   210ms mnt-Data2.mount
   162ms lvm2-monitor.service
   155ms nfs-idmap.service
   101ms iscsi.service
    92ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    84ms console-kit-daemon.service
    73ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
    30ms sandbox.service
    27ms sys-kernel-config.mount
    24ms preload.service
    20ms livesys-late.service
     5ms rpcbind.service
     2ms rtkit-daemon.service
     0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
the desktop startup after kdm does seem snappier though
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Old 24th April 2012, 04:25 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

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Originally Posted by Catastrophe View Post
mmmm, that didnt seem to work..... to get to kdm still takes more than 1:30
Code:
$ systemd-analyze 
Startup finished in 2132ms (kernel) + 2946ms (initramfs) +90352ms (userspace) = 95431ms
$ systemd-analyze blame 
 13904ms udev-settle.service
  8600ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
  7650ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  4706ms systemd-binfmt.service
  4492ms fedora-loadmodules.service
  4394ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
  3978ms bootchart.service
  3577ms avahi-daemon.service
  3548ms NetworkManager.service
  3540ms rsyslog.service
  3287ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
  3267ms livesys.service
  3265ms ip6tables.service
  3264ms iptables.service
  3249ms auditd.service
  3248ms sshd-keygen.service
  3213ms acpid.service
  3159ms abrt-ccpp.service
  3049ms fedora-readonly.service
  2571ms mnt-Data1.mount
  2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
  1828ms abrt-vmcore.service
  1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
  1507ms mcelog.service
  1461ms irqbalance.service
  1201ms media.mount
  1041ms sys-kernel-security.mount
  1033ms dev-hugepages.mount
  1025ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
  1018ms dev-mqueue.mount
   914ms dbus.service
   841ms remount-rootfs.service
   807ms udev-trigger.service
   773ms udev.service
   600ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
   593ms fedora-storage-init.service
   572ms systemd-logind.service
   565ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
   557ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
   437ms netfs.service
   429ms systemd-sysctl.service
   424ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
   398ms iscsid.service
   343ms fcoe.service
   290ms nfs-lock.service
   234ms boot.mount
   210ms mnt-Data2.mount
   162ms lvm2-monitor.service
   155ms nfs-idmap.service
   101ms iscsi.service
    92ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    84ms console-kit-daemon.service
    73ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
    30ms sandbox.service
    27ms sys-kernel-config.mount
    24ms preload.service
    20ms livesys-late.service
     5ms rpcbind.service
     2ms rtkit-daemon.service
     0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
the desktop startup after kdm does seem snappier though
It did reduce the time a lot, from 174 secs to 95 secs. I think there's something else left that's taking the time that's not listed in the blame list

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Old 24th April 2012, 04:37 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

Fedora comes with a lot of stuff you may not need. For instance, if like me you use a very simple disk setup (/dev/sda1 for root, /dev/sda2 for home and /dev/sda3 for swap), you can get rid of a bunch of disk related services that take up a lot of boot time. And if you think abrt reports are useless and don't want to file them you can disable those. Same for mce logs. Same for pcoe services. And so on and so forth. Basically, by removing or disabling the stuff you don't need/use, you'll get a faster, and possibly even stabler and more secure system.

Below is what a boot up looks like on my intel core-duo with 3GB ddr3 on a 5400 rpm hard-drive.

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[root@nixpad]# systemd-analyze blame
2419ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
1706ms remount-rootfs.service
1549ms systemd-binfmt.service
1452ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
1106ms media.mount
1101ms sys-kernel-security.mount
1100ms dev-hugepages.mount
1092ms dev-mqueue.mount
1091ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
970ms sys-kernel-config.mount
842ms colord-sane.service
679ms udev-trigger.service
451ms udev.service
397ms NetworkManager.service
317ms avahi-daemon.service
269ms systemd-sysctl.service
269ms rsyslog.service
231ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
230ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
225ms dkms_autoinstaller.service
186ms vboxdrv.service
163ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
143ms colord.service
125ms systemd-logind.service
113ms acpid.service
107ms irqbalance.service
104ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
83ms dbus.service
73ms systemd-user-sessions.service
60ms home.mount
45ms udisks2.service
25ms accounts-daemon.service
6ms rtkit-daemon.service
5ms wpa_supplicant.service
Quote:
[root@nixpad]# systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 2722ms (kernel) + 2105ms (initramfs) + 14147ms (userspace) = 18975ms
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Old 24th April 2012, 05:49 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

thanks, taking into account these advice and reading a bit on the web on which services are safe to disable, i managed to speed the process a lot, but im still above the 30 second mark, i think i can get it lower so is there any other service i can give the boot?.
Code:
$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 2160ms (kernel) + 3872ms (initramfs) + 24304ms (userspace) = 30337ms
$ systemd-analyze blame
  5520ms fedora-loadmodules.service
  5132ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  4693ms systemd-binfmt.service
  3959ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
  3947ms mnt-Data1.mount
  3902ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
  2889ms fedora-readonly.service
  1402ms NetworkManager.service
  1373ms avahi-daemon.service
  1326ms udev-trigger.service
  1294ms rsyslog.service
  1004ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
   999ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
   992ms media.mount
   978ms sys-kernel-security.mount
   976ms dev-hugepages.mount
   925ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
   923ms systemd-logind.service
   918ms dev-mqueue.mount
   899ms systemd-sysctl.service
   863ms dbus.service
   764ms udev.service
   626ms netfs.service
   600ms iscsid.service
   596ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
   595ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
   590ms remount-rootfs.service
   588ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
   538ms sandbox.service
   531ms iptables.service
   515ms ip6tables.service
   493ms auditd.service
   484ms sshd-keygen.service
   472ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
   416ms acpid.service
   284ms abrt-ccpp.service
   192ms mnt-Data2.mount
   149ms rpcbind.service
   123ms abrt-vmcore.service
   120ms irqbalance.service
   100ms boot.mount
    87ms nfs-lock.service
    54ms preload.service
    51ms console-kit-daemon.service
    27ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    10ms nfs-idmap.service
     6ms sys-kernel-config.mount
     3ms rtkit-daemon.service
     0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
edit:
here's my /etc/fstab just in case (there's another ntfs partition holding win7)
Code:
#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Tue Apr 10 17:21:01 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
UUID=3f378778-8da5-4a52-af26-a825f601de8c /                       ext4    defau$
UUID=2608cfca-2b7e-4799-a2a6-da374ed2a40a /boot                   ext4    defau$

#ntfs
/dev/sda4                               /mnt/Data2              ntfs-3g default$
/dev/sdb1                               /mnt/Data1              ntfs-3g default$
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Old 24th April 2012, 07:21 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

To, catastrophe, Am i correct in assuming that you have disabled following services?

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60423ms sm-client.service
60098ms sendmail.service
593ms fedora-storage-init.service
3978ms bootchart.service
343ms fcoe.service
3267ms livesys.service
2158ms fedora-wait-storage.service
20ms livesys-late.service
162ms lvm2-monitor.service
1513ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
1507ms mcelog.service
13904ms udev-settle.service
101ms iscsi.service
Further have you tried booting by removing ntfs entry from etc/fstab. You can compare the results to find out culprit.

I think your entry for ntfs in /etc/fstab should be containing 0 0 at the end, however it can be clarified by more knowledgable forum member.
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Old 24th April 2012, 11:33 AM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

EDIT: Whith these lines, no warenty, nor garanty applyies, do all changes to your system at your own risk!

The outout ofr /etc/fstab looks like copy pasted from a terminal editor, as it is incomplete and ends with $..

If you dont use SCSI harddisks, you may disable the "iscsi.service" and "iscsid.service" modules.
If you dont use a NAS/NFS, you might try to disable the "netfs.service, nfs-idmap.service, nfs-lock.service" modules.

I'm not very sure how (un-)safe it is to disable: var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount.

For you to compare:
Code:
[simon@l670 bin]$ blame
  4744ms udev-settle.service
  2959ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  2617ms remount-rootfs.service
  2376ms media.mount
  2350ms dev-hugepages.mount
  2326ms sys-kernel-security.mount
  2310ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
  2292ms dev-mqueue.mount
  2040ms udev-trigger.service
  1791ms fedora-readonly.service
  1650ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
  1588ms udev.service
  1373ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
  1180ms autofs.service
  1010ms sys-kernel-config.mount
   868ms netfs.service
   588ms NetworkManager.service
   479ms fedora-storage-init.service
   451ms vboxdrv.service
   426ms systemd-sysctl.service
   334ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
   322ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
   303ms rsyslog.service
   300ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
   298ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
   232ms systemd-logind.service
   231ms iptables.service
   213ms auditd.service
   205ms sshd-keygen.service
   194ms home.mount
   191ms avahi-daemon.service
   182ms acpid.service
   173ms vboxweb-service.service
   168ms abrt-ccpp.service
   164ms abrt-vmcore.service
   143ms irqbalance.service
   138ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
   112ms dbus.service
    58ms fedora-wait-storage.service
    49ms vboxballoonctrl-service.service
    49ms console-kit-daemon.service
    39ms dev-sda3.swap
    22ms rtkit-daemon.service
    14ms systemd-user-sessions.service
     0ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
45 services: Total = 39.552 seconds
Startup finished in 2068ms (kernel) + 4177ms (initramfs) + 11592ms (userspace) = 17838ms
Code:
#!/bin/bash
# | Script written by RupertPumpkin
systemd-analyze blame|awk '{print $0;sum=sum+$1} END {print NR,"services: Total =",sum/1000,"seconds"}'
systemd-analyze time
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Old 24th April 2012, 01:19 PM
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Re: Impossibly long Boot Time

removed all iscsi and nfs-related services:
Code:
$ ./blame
  3923ms fedora-loadmodules.service
  3813ms systemd-binfmt.service
  3769ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
  3724ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
  2894ms mnt-Data2.mount
  2664ms mnt-Data1.mount
  2556ms NetworkManager.service
  2508ms avahi-daemon.service
  2495ms rsyslog.service
  2461ms sandbox.service
  2451ms iptables.service
  2431ms ip6tables.service
  2416ms auditd.service
  2413ms sshd-keygen.service
  2395ms acpid.service
  2379ms irqbalance.service
  2314ms fedora-readonly.service
  2304ms systemd-logind.service
  2267ms systemd-user-sessions.service
  2263ms dbus.service
  1890ms udev-trigger.service
  1742ms mdmonitor-takeover.service
  1739ms media.mount
  1726ms sys-kernel-security.mount
  1722ms dev-hugepages.mount
  1706ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
  1700ms dev-mqueue.mount
  1692ms udev.service
   724ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
   717ms remount-rootfs.service
   381ms systemd-sysctl.service
   298ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
   217ms systemd-readahead-collect.service
   198ms systemd-readahead-replay.service
   142ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
   130ms boot.mount
   107ms preload.service
    93ms console-kit-daemon.service
    33ms sys-kernel-config.mount
     2ms rtkit-daemon.service
     1ms rpcbind.service
41 services: Total = 71.4 seconds
Startup finished in 2153ms (kernel) + 3395ms (initramfs) + 29010ms (userspace) = 34560ms
im pretty sure that 71 secs figure for 41 services is, well, abnormal
comparatively speaking the individual times for some processes seem too high, for example sillav's 397ms networkmanager vs. the 2556ms on mine, among others.



and my real fstab
Code:
#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Tue Apr 10 17:21:01 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
UUID=3f378778-8da5-4a52-af26-a825f601de8c /                       ext4    defaults,user_xattr        1 1
UUID=2608cfca-2b7e-4799-a2a6-da374ed2a40a /boot                   ext4    defaults        1 2

#ntfs
/dev/sda4				/mnt/Data2		ntfs-3g	defaults 	0 0
/dev/sdb1				/mnt/Data1		ntfs-3g	defaults	0 0
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