long way to linux heaven

[mmix]

This is 3~4th failure/crash of gnome-shell F1X update.

there is too much time wasted to setup the right gui-environment.

a few days ago, everything was fine, something goes to wrong when i did "yum update".

this pattern is so bad to all linux users, they will just leave the linux..

anyway, now, i am just fine with slitaz.

frugalware(not bad, but the installation somewhat faulty..), arch-linux, F17-alpha, freebsd all failed on my 2nd-old-com.

other computer of mine just works fine, it hand-maded lfs/small-oses or ms windows family..

[bob]

I've never understood why members feel compelled to give a swan-song for dumping Fedora and going with something else. This Forum is privately-owned and not a part of FedoraProject. Because of that, the devs who make Fedora seldom bother to stop by and your comments don't reach them, where they might have some effect. We are simply users helping other users with problems and tweaks.

So, if you've found another distro or another OS, goodbye and good luck. We all use what works for us and for our equipment. The nice thing with linux is that there's no cost to try it and, for the vast majority, we're happy with our choice.

[Dan]

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[Misfit138]

Originally Posted by bob

I've never understood why members feel compelled to give a swan-song for dumping Fedora and going with something else. This Forum is privately-owned and not a part of FedoraProject. Because of that, the devs who make Fedora seldom bother to stop by and your comments don't reach them, where they might have some effect. We are simply users helping other users with problems and tweaks.

So, if you've found another distro or another OS, goodbye and good luck. We all use what works for us and for our equipment. The nice thing with linux is that there's no cost to try it and, for the vast majority, we're happy with our choice.

Quoted For Truth.

The OP should get a blog methinks.

The nature of Open Source and Free Software is that innovation is a constant. This is especially true of Fedora and Arch Linux, 2 of the distros cited. If we are not proactive in maintaining our systems, and rather, abandon our choice of distro entirely as a "solution", then we will be doomed to suffer such frustrations over trivialities seemingly forever.

Fedora and Arch are targeted at competent users and developers. It is possible they may not be right for the OP, but note that all operating systems have built-in annoyances which will eventually surface.

[marko]

Plus Gnome isn't the only desktop you can use, if Gnome didn't work, fine, try one of the other half dozen desktop options.

[mmix]

is there any yum-update rollback? (easy to remember)

gnome is not the problem, after failure/crash of gnome-shell, i tried xfce(F17), gnome2, freebsd all failed, AISB, even i am fine with simple console environment, but can't boot or can't exit to "shell" is another problem.

all gui maybe sucks, but something aren't,

[sea]

Weird, regarding your registred date, and according to my impression, you have made some valuable posts on the forum too, i'm quite confused about this thread of yours.
Also, you say you're fine with a CLI only mode too.

All i could do is suggest you go for a minimal install, and install only packages you actualy need or want.
I've had scripts to easyly achieve that, but i'm quite unsure of the state of the latest upload, as i have locked myself out of my developing machine (netbook).

To me, windows fails too, as it has audio issues i dont have with ANY linux distro i had tried.

However, a description of your 'gnome-crash', F17/BSD failures might be helpfull, so we get an idea of WHAT fails..
So we might help you to get on a tar'ed street again

[AndrewSerk]

Originally Posted by mmix

is there any yum-update rollback? (easy to remember)
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There is yum history undo "history #' that usually goes something like:

yum history
yum history info 34
yum history undo 34

Hope this helps

[Dan]

Bottom line here is, we've all been at that place once in a while when we've had it up to both ears with the stream of challenges that any computer/operating system brings with them. And once in a while it's cathartic to blow off a little steam about it. So you post your frustrations, get teased about them, take three deep breaths and then dig in again.

Maybe it's bio-rythm, maybe it's karma, maybe we just don't hold our mouths right, but it happens to all of us sooner or later. Last night I was ready to just hang my head in depressed resignation, get up from the chair and go get in the tub with a plugged-in hair dryer ... but reason soon prevailed, and thanks to some sharp cookies here on the forum, a solution presented itself.

And this morning? All happy again. <....>

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That's kind of what the rant and raves section is for. <....>

[bob]

That's kind of what the rant and raves section is for. <....>

Actually, no. I created it so we could make fun of people.

[Dan]

Well ... Yeah. <....>


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[mmix]

revisited the gnome-shell crash,

find this situation.

succeed to install XFCE F17 beta nouveau.

But nouveau is still unstable(repeat screen blink, have to type ctrl+alt+F1 <->F7 to see screen back),

so i tried nvidia 295.40 driver, but it doesn't work with gnome-shell, there is gnome-shell crash before gdm login.

it worked fine with 295.20 & before yum-update. complex heh..

[hadrons123]

Well 295.40 is buggy. Didn't you check?

[mmix]

yes i didn't. but it works fine with xfce, weird..

gnome-shell is always the problem, not nvidia driver, IMHO.