Ubuntu: “We’re not Linux” - Page 5

MorphingDragon · #61 2nd April 2012, 06:54 AM

I lol at Mark trying to compare Ubuntu to RHEL.

Red Hat isn't in the same ball park as Canonical. Red Hat offer infrastructure, Canonical offer an Operating System.

stevea · #62 2nd April 2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil_Bert

Interesting to note the drop off in Fedora users for F15 and again for F16 compared to earlier releases.

Those stats and their meaning require a closer look.

Note that F12 was largely solid while a lot of ppl skipped or at most peeked at F13.
Then again F14 is stable and still heavily in use despite being off support.
F15, like F13 was worth skipping - lots of change and not so much gain, esp stability.
F16 stats are OK and it's still under support for many months. Currently F16 has only 1.7Mill unique IP connects to the repo, but it's increasing at 100k connects per week. So it may turn out with reasonable stats.

I'm not doubting your general suggestion, that Fedora population took a hit at F15 and is only slowly recovering - but it's not so bleak as those numbers suggest.

bonedome · #63 2nd April 2012, 08:50 PM

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Ubuntu: “We’re not Linux”

I see some similarities between ubuntu and google android which is effectively "smart phone linux"
I mean how many people are even aware that their android phone has a linux kernel, again not even a little thank you on their website for other people's hard work while contributing next to nothing in return.
I love Linus Torvald's attitude though, he is truly happy for anyone to take his kernel and do what they want with it

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In 2011 Linus Torvalds said that "eventually Android and Linux would come back to a common kernel, but it will probably not be for four to five years"

quietly confident or couldn't really care less

srs5694 · #64 3rd April 2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gödel

and yes ubuntu don't contribute much to basic kernel development, and yes ubuntu has been a huge boost to the linux world (the french government use ubuntu for example)

I thought I remembered hearing something about this a while back, but a recent Slashdot posting brought up up again:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...ux-257916.html

To summarize, it seems that Microsoft is now counted as a fairly major Linux kernel contributor -- #17 in the ranking, according to the Network World article, although Microsoft is #21 and #14 in the two tables in which the name appeared in the original report.. According to Network World, Microsoft's contributions relate mostly to its Hyper-V virtualization technology; I doubt if they're planning to release a version of "Microsoft Linux" any time soon! The Network World article also suggests that Microsoft's contributions have probably peaked and are likely to decline in the future.

Still, there is a certain irony in that Microsoft is contributing more to the Linux kernel than is a major distribution like Ubuntu. (Debian doesn't appear either, but given their development model, their developers might be contributing but be associated with "None," "Unknown," or "Consultant," all of which rank higher than Microsoft.)

#65 4th April 2012, 03:57 PM

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For the first time, Microsoft appears on list of companies that are contributing to the Linux kernel. Ranking at number 17

source: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-...lopment-report

I can't find chronical on that list but maybe I'm missing something?

Are ubuntu (chronical) just a taking stuff from others but not giving anything back?

***bob*** · #66 4th April 2012, 04:01 PM

I think you'll find this discussed here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...=278149&page=5

#67 4th April 2012, 04:10 PM

Ubuntu, milking the cow dry while others (such as Red hat) are feeding it. Sounds like a win-loose relationship to me.

Normal people would walk away from such a deal. Is it about principles or what am I missing here?

kona0197 · #68 4th April 2012, 08:58 PM

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...cal-linux-2632

***bob*** · #69 4th April 2012, 09:12 PM

Guys, we've got this talked about on the one thread and now we've got 3 threads on the same subject? If I hadn't retired, I'd be MERGING about now.... (hint, hint)