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Old 24th February 2012, 11:34 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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One problem I have seen is display corruption. It only happens with Gnome3 and doesn't matter whether Gnome Shell or Cinnamon. I play supertuxcart, and what happens is the window goes blank (white), and nothing is displayed in that area. The menus still work, but since most of the dialogs come up in the middle of the screen (the white window), nothing can be done. The music for the game plays just fine. The only way out is a ctrl-alt-backspace to abort the X server.

Another (possibly related) problem is that the user switch function goes dead - A password window is present, but does nothing. Again the only way out is ctrl-alt-backspace.

I haven't seen either problem under LXDE. Still investigating...
The graphics problem sounds like it's with Mutter/Muffin. LXDE has no standard compositor, as you probably know. That's the problem/dislike I've always had with these "always on" compositors with Gnome-Shell and Unity. Though I thought they had at least introduced full screen undirecting(?) in Mutter.
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Old 26th February 2012, 02:14 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

How is it looking for cinnamon on F17, Leigh? I'd really like to try the alpha, but I refuse to go back to gnomes-hell after getting used to cinnamon.

Thanks,
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Old 26th February 2012, 04:48 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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Thanks for the advice leigh!. dconf-editor helped. I too was facing the panel applet left indenting issue.
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Old 26th February 2012, 11:10 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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I'm using ASUS EeePC 1015B with 1024x600px screen resolution, and i had some problem here.

first, the menu is overheight. so when i place the panel at the bottom of my screen, the search bar doesnt show. its just "cropped", i try to edit the css, but i couldnt find which part i must edit to fix this issue?

2nd, alt+tab is not working for switching the opened window

then i found this
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[root@localhost Downloads]# rpm -ivh cinnamon-1.3.1-3.fc16.src.rpm 
   1:cinnamon               warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root

...

[root@localhost Downloads]#
can someone help me pls? i dont have any idea to solve the problem, and i'm was a beginner linux user.

sorry for bad english

edit: i'm using Linux localhost 3.2.6-3.fc16.i686 #1 SMP Mon Feb 13 20:52:22 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
You tried to install the source rpm. Go to this link, scroll down and download the file from the "cinnamon-1.3.1-5.fc16.i686.rpm" link. Then install it with "sudo yum --nogpgcheck install PathTocinnamon-1.3.1-5.fc16.i686.rpm".

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Old 27th February 2012, 06:10 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

Well there has been a slight hold up on the cinnamon review.

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/810

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252
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Old 27th February 2012, 07:46 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

Noticed an interesting bug: after dragging one of the panel favorites to a different spot, the entire favorites panel jumps to the right a bit. It moves back after reloading the shell though.
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Old 28th February 2012, 03:46 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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Well there has been a slight hold up on the cinnamon review.

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/810

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252
I've had a read of the linked material and I think it is certainly a very worthy discussion to be having. I think that over the next few days there will like be some very strong arguments going each way on lot of the points raised and I will be following this one with interest.

Leigh I am very keen to hear your buy in on this topic if you have time to share it with us.

Would Gnome would ever accept Cinnamon as a component of Gnome Shell as opposed to a fork? This would be an ideal solution as there would not be code duplication as such and no delay in bug / security fixes between upstream and the fork.
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Old 28th February 2012, 03:56 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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I've had a read of the linked material and I think it is certainly a very worthy discussion to be having. I think that over the next few days there will like be some very strong arguments going each way on lot of the points raised and I will be following this one with interest.

Leigh I am very keen to hear your buy in on this topic if you have time to share it with us.

Would Gnome would ever accept Cinnamon as a component of Gnome Shell as opposed to a fork? This would be an ideal solution as there would not be code duplication as such and no delay in bug / security fixes between upstream and the fork.
it has nothing to do with Gnome. its Fedora's Policy on Forked stuff which IMO sucks, makes me wonder why they bothered to approve Muffin if they are not gonna approve Cinnamon

IMO or Fedora are doing is forcing people to use Fedora's Gnome and KDE and XFCE and other Fedora bits. and you wonder why Fedora are losing package Maintainers cause of there silly policies.

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Old 28th February 2012, 04:03 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

I noticed one post on the devel mailing list questioning if the cinnamon patches had ever been shown to upstream, aka the gnome devs. From what I've read on the cinnamon site, the patches were flatly rejected by upstream. So I'd say there's no chance cinnamon will get rolled into gnomes-hell. Our only hope is that Fedora has a factual debate about the merits of the fork, and realizes that the gnome devs are about as open to outside influences as Tolkien's dwarves were.

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Old 29th February 2012, 01:59 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

Looks like there is currently no issues with forks assuming they do not interfere with anything else!

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/810

However the discussion appears to be far from over.

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/148

Hopefully this means Cinnamon will continue to progress in Fedora.
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Old 29th February 2012, 01:32 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

If it doesn't, then I for one will fall back to F14 or switch distributions to something that works.
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Old 29th February 2012, 05:33 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

I looks like the Fedora developers either:
a. don't realize how arrogant the Gnome developers are
b. are in cahoots with the Gnome developers
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Old 29th February 2012, 05:56 PM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

That's not entirely surprising. A great many developers indeed work on both.
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Old 1st March 2012, 12:43 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

hey Leigh,

if i
yum remove cinnamon

then

yum install cinnamon

will it "downgrade" from cinnamon-1.3.1-5.fc16.i686 to i think 1.3.0
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Old 1st March 2012, 04:07 AM
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Re: Cinnamon guide for F16 (replacement for gnomes-hell)

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I looks like the Fedora developers either:
a. don't realize how arrogant the Gnome developers are
b. are in cahoots with the Gnome developers
Gnome aren't about to admit their product might benefit from altering in any way.
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