fail playing video - no fedora

[jamvaru]

no to fedora

look, i just got through telling the folks at debian:

there are only a very few things a distro needs to do to pass my test (hopefully before install) [they failed after install because of ntfs permissions on my removable drives... inexcusable]

i should be able to open my removable hard drive, navigate to a video, and open it sucessfully ... in this case the last condition failed... something called gxine? Had some stupid dialogue about needing to do something in order to play the file, which i of course ignored and clicked off. It wouldn't play crap. And i couldn't find the error message it gave me the first time. So.... buh bye, fedora

I will try Kororaa again, it being a fedora clone of sorts, so still having whatever makes fedora any good (federal government security extensions?)

what is good about fedora? you can use rpm binaries... ?

why should i try fedora? it won't even play a video

[sea]

Hello jamvaru

Yes, Fedora doesnt play DvD's out of the box, since those 'drivers' are properitary software, which dont meet the Fedora Philosophy, it has a list of Frobidden Items.

However, its a one-time-thing of a few minutes to set this up.
You may find the required information or tools to install them here:

• http://rpm.livna.org
• http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
• The yellow link at top of this page FEDORA SETUP GUIDE
• Or the link in my signature, its CLI,

One important notice, do install the 'drivers' to play DvD, you need to install the lifesystem first.

Hope this helps.

EDIT:
About why use Fedora...
Are you interested in the bleeding edge technologie (software, driver, gui, and such things) then Fedora is your thing.
If you dont want to do anything with the system, just a stable system, try Debian, Scientific Linux, CentOS or even SuSe.
If you want to play games or a windows like linux experience, go for any Ubuntu derivate.

[Davarish]

Well Jamvaru, Fedora actually is capable of playing every video format that exists. It only requires some effort from the user side. You could have added some 3rd party repos (known as "Fusion"), or just install the very easy to use tool known as "autoplus" that would install everything needed with just a few clicks.
Fedora requires some effort to fine tune but when you do you have the best linux distro out there. You bothered to come here and post to the forums saying "I am too lazy to bother even asking: "What is the easiest and quickest way to do this or that?". If you are too lazy to even ask then ok go for Kororaa or whatever. We were here to help you but you don't sound like you want any help from us (the community).
So...you wasted time posting something without meaning, wasted time installing kororaa (installing fedora all over again) and wasted time reading my reply, when you could have just installed autoplus and get on with it

[coffee412]

what is good about fedora?

:jamvaru

As with any distro you will have to install the codecs to get alot of video/audio types to play. This is not something only related to fedora. The only difference is that other distros might have an easier approach to it.

As for what is good about Fedora is that it is a cutting edge development flavor of linux. The latest and greatest get employed into it quicker than most others. However, This will at times cause some things to break and need some fine tuning to get them working again. Most people coming to fedora based on hear-say have the same questions as you - "Why doesnt this work out of the box?" or "Why is this broke?". Its because of the bleeding edge merits of fedora. For some with problems with hardware its a godsend as alot of driver ills and such are cleared up. However it does have a quick version cycle that makes it not the best if your going to run a server.

For the most part Fedora is a fun flavor of linux and you can tinker with things (probably not gnome3) to your hearts content.

I would suggest that you give it a try again and install the fusion repo and get the correct codecs installed. Personally, I like mplayer as a video/audio player as its quite stable and has alot of features.

Take care,

coffee

[jamvaru]

alright, i will give it a go... (didn't actually install it, the gxine thing just blew my mind!)
i'm using Kororaa right now, it is ok... was getting frustrated till i found an archlinux forum post saying you have to hold ALT when you right click on the panel to get the options... duh ... pretty sure i don't like 'gnome shell' ... What reason to use gnome 3? sort of like kde now? it is a 'suite' ?

Davarish - not a waste of time... i was doing all of you fedora flunkies a favor by telling you how stupid my experience was ... however, i did like the feel of it, wasn't overly graphical but very snappy; fixing that gxine problem would be a big bonus for you (those who feel promoting fedora is important) ... needs a really big dialogue box with some big buttons to click on (even if they don't really do anything)

{an interesting problem i'm having in kororaa: clicking on additional drivers in system settings does NOTHING, about to give it up and i guess give fedora another go... i've got 5 OS's going, plus my unetbootin stick, just another speed bump... why should i care about this or that distro?}

sea - thanks for your considerate and helpful response... i guess it will feel less of a hassle once i do it

coffee412 - also thanks;

i'm finding that the 'downstream' distros are really somewhat boorish... perhaps that is too strong; they tend towards effluvium ... they are fluvy, lots of pink dinosaurs and rainbow roller coasters; starting to really like lxde; ubuntu has become a pink dinosaur, for example, though you can still get a generic version with lubuntu... i limit my ubuntu to mint, though i'm trying zorin 'lite' as a possible candidate for gifts to windows users; fits on a cd and uses lxde i think

anyways, happy to see the responses; after the dissapointment with kororaa i am ready to try fedora again; seems most 'downstream' distros are just pretty wrappers, anyways.

any recommendations for a fedora clone that is worth running alongside fedora? or, what do you do for flavor? i am anti-apple philosophy, no gaudy mono dock, thanks ;>'

[willg]

By the way, if you want an OS that doesn't just work out of the box, try Windows. Don't install a single driver that comes with the hardware DVD or Blu-Ray player that you have and see what kind of videos you can play. Windows doesn't come with them, the codecs come with software supplied by your hardware vendor. Guess that means the most widest used OS is a major fail... Well guess, we all already knew that one.

I'm only using Windows right now because I am waiting for a community answer to my problem in a another post. Then I will be back to using my tried and true Fedora.

[coffee412]

jamvaru::

I would install fedora and then immediately install a different desktop like LXde. Then move to installing mplayer and the codecs for it.

Here is a great place to get started and I recommend for anyone just starting up on fedora:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f16.html

Have fun!

coffee

[solo2101]

try Autoplus
http://dnmouse.org/autoten/

or EasyLife
http://easylifeproject.org/

[jamvaru]

thanks all

so, it is really kind of like installing windows... you then decide how you want it to look and install vlc codecs, whatever ... or you just go with the generic vanilla windows media player and so on

i am enjoying linux mint 9 isadora right now because it is based on the stable branch of ubuntu 10.04 LTS

works fine, though it has some deals like no built in equaliser, have yet to get that to work on any distro, but of course vlc has an eq

i'll be keeping lm9 (have 4 linux partitions and 1 wXP partition, thats enough, right?) already decided against ubuntu and debian ... both upstream of mint

will be using a fedora of some sort, using centos right now, it is very stable and stuff, gives me a redhat experience of sorts

how different is redhat (or centos) from fedora?

[smr54]

Well, it's older, and with some recent Fedora changes, is becoming more different--different type of startup, (Sysv, as opposed to Fedora's systemd)--fewer available packages, even with 3rd party repos, as it's aimed more, in theory anyway, at a business environment. Therefore, less likely to break.

Gnome on the RH/CentOS systems is quite different, they use Gnome2 while Fedora uses Gnome3.

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Well, it's older, and with some recent Fedora changes, is becoming more different--different type of startup, (Sysv, as opposed to Fedora's systemd)--fewer available packages, even with 3rd party repos, as it's aimed more, in theory anyway, at a business environment. Therefore, less likely to break.

Gnome on the RH/CentOS systems is quite different, they use Gnome2 while Fedora uses Gnome3.