WARNING: if you have problem with nvidia or ati binary drivers

[Hlingler]

See if anything here helps: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=251962

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P.S. This may sound harsh, but I can't sugar-coat it: this kind of problem is to be expected with Development and Rawhide (Beta/Alpha) pre-releases.

P.P.S. This thread was originally started to alert users to the hazards of binary installer "blobs": https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/..._Video_Drivers
but the topic has widened somewhat. Just sayin'... .

[beardavid]

Hello, I need help? Please

Ok so I understand if you install the nvidia drives you can't get help. So I went and did a clean install and HAVE NOT installed any drivers. Great now my computer is almost unuseable now . It will almost NEVER fresh the screen and knocks up about every five minutes so that I have to hold the power button in. Right now as I type I'm not saeeing anything that is being typed but if I change screens then come back it will show me. I would love to get this fixed soon if I can.

I'm running 64bit like I said it is nvidia and I thinkit is in the 6100's

1680 by 1050 screen

I HAVE NOT installed any other drivers at all. Please help me get this fixed thank you.

[pilotferdi]

Originally Posted by beardavid

...It will almost NEVER fresh the screen and knocks up about every five minutes so that I have to hold the power button in. Right now as I type I'm not saeeing anything that is being typed but if I change screens then come back it will show me.

What do you mean by your computer "knocks up"? How do you "change screens"?
You need to provide clear description of the symptoms, else I doubt anyone will be able to provide help.

So, with the little information you provided I'm guessing you have a display problem. The issue may be Mutter, the composite part feature of your X server, which is a bit#h (pun intended: 'Mutter' in German means "Mother" ).

To disable Mutter (a.k.a., fall back to non-composite mode) you need to do the following:
1. Open 'System Settings'. Click in sequence:
'Activities' (upper-left corner)
'Applications'
'System Tools'
'System Settings'

2. Click on System Info' (last row of icons)
3. Click on 'Graphics'
4. Click on 'Forced Fallback Mode' (it's grayed out when OFF, but turns when ON)
5. Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace keys on your keyboard - this restarts the X server.

Hopefully your problem is the composite mode.
Mutter (the composite option of your X server) is notorious for being a piece of cr.p!

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[beardavid]

Okay this seem to help, but why is it I can't use the new gnome3 thing?

[pilotferdi]

Originally Posted by beardavid

Okay this seem to help, but why is it I can't use the new gnome3 thing?

You are using Gnome 3. It's just that you don't use the composite mode that makes for the nice eye candy, app-based (instead of windows-based) experience.

Why can't you use the composite mode ? There are a few answers, more or less interconnected:

1. You may have hardware that is deemed too old by the Fedora/Gnome/Xorg developers to consider maintaining;
2. A slew of unimaginative - IMHO - software engineers that refuse to (or are unable to) think outside the box. Their motto is "It's good enough";
3. Gnome 3 was not ready for prime time when it was released;
4. Read my last statement in previous post.
(Do you read all this, Fedora/Gnome/Xorg developers? )

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[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by pilotferdi

You are using Gnome 3. It's just that you don't use the composite mode that makes for the nice eye candy, app-based (instead of windows-based) experience.

Why can't you use the composite mode ? There are a few answers, more or less interconnected:

1. You may have hardware that is deemed too old by the Fedora/Gnome/Xorg developers to consider maintaining;
2. A slew of unimaginative - IMHO - software engineers that refuse to (or are unable to) think outside the box. Their motto is "It's good enough";
3. Gnome 3 was not ready for prime time when it was released;
4. Read my last statement in previous post.
(Do you read all this, Fedora/Gnome/Xorg developers? )

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