Lost Nautilus and can't log on now

Gundog68 · #1 2009-11-04, 05:24 PM CST

Following a smaller problem I uninstalled Nautilus (bad idea) hoping a reinstall would fix the problem. I now get to the log on screen but can't log on, not as user or root. I can boot from CD and run the anaconda repair utility but this is where I have absolutely no idea what to do. Help please!
I'm running F9 and the Gnome desktop environment.

warkbt · #2 2009-11-04, 07:00 PM CST

But have you reinstalled Nautilus?
If not:
Try to log via console not via gnome (press Ctrl+Atl+F1 or F2 in log screen).
Then log as root, and type:

Code:

yum install nautilus

Gundog68 · #3 2009-11-04, 07:48 PM CST

Hi KBT and thank you

Doing that I'm now looking at:

[root@localhost ~]# yum install nautilus
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit

Hang on, I just got this:

"Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mir...wkey&arch=i386 error was
[errno 4] I0Error: <urlopen error (101, 'Network is unreachable' )>
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: updates-newkey. Please verify its path and try again"

What do I do next? Thanks for your help so far

Regards,
Jason

**scottro** · #4 2009-11-04, 08:12 PM CST

Ergg, I bet that network manager needs the log in to start. I don't use NM, though, so I could be totally and completely wrong.

However, unless someone answers first, you might try this. I have a page about removing NM from the equation (not deleting the package--the purpose of the page is actually for testing wireless, where NM sometimes has trouble.) Following the instructions there, but ignoring the wireless stuff, try starting using network instead of network manager and seeing if you can get an address that way. Or, just disable network manager, as instructed there, reboot, and after logging in do

ifconfig eth0 up

dhclient eth0

(Note you'll have to be root or use root privilege to do that.)

If however, someone posts back and says, no, NM doesn't require login, then the problem is something else.

Gundog68 · #5 2009-11-04, 08:24 PM CST

Thank you Scottro, I'll wait a little for other posts and then I'll try your suggestion. My router seems to be sending data though....I noticed already a few days ago that I couldn't get onto fedoraproject.org It consistently times out...I just checked now and my laptop running Ubuntu 8.04 brings up the page no trouble...Is this maybe related?

Thank you so far

**scottro** · #6 2009-11-04, 08:29 PM CST

Yeah, it would have also helped if I gave the link.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~computer.../wireless.html

Oh well, short term memory is the first to go. The second thing is---oh darn, I just heard it.....

Seriously, yes, wait and see if anyone can confirm or correct what I've said about NM. As I think the aim is for it to eventually completely replace network, it seems odd that it would require login before connecting.

marcrblevins · #7 2009-11-04, 10:15 PM CST

Get on root, same console as before, please show the results...
What happens when you:

Code:

service NetworkManager restart

If nothing shown, then:

Code:

service network restart

Finally, test it:

Code:

ping www.google.com

Gundog68 · #8 2009-11-04, 11:22 PM CST

Hi Marc,

"service NetworkManager restart" as well as "Network restart" both
returns:
64 bytes from www.google.com (66.249.89.104): icmp_seq=265 ttl=54 time=352 ms

Where: "icmp_seq=" keeps counting, looks like it keeps pinging. (now at 486)

My apologies, I should have mentioned this is a desktop I'm trying to fix with a wired Ethernet connection

I still wonder why my laptop can access fedoraproject.org when my desktop hasn't been able to access that website for days...(but all other web sites)?
I suspect that is where the problem lies and

"yum install nautilus"

would otherwise work fine...

Thanks all so far

Gundog68 · #9 2009-11-05, 11:59 AM CST

Unfortunately from here I am stuck again

Does anybody have a clue why the system can't get into fedoraproject.org but any other page?

ramatut · #10 2009-11-05, 07:47 PM CST

'Network unreachable' kinda tells me that your desktop doesn't have a route to mirrors.fedoraproject.org.

grab the IP addresses using dig

Code:

$ dig mirrors.fedoraproject.org

; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1-RedHat-9.6.1-6.P1.fc11 <<>> mirrors.fedoraproject.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56449
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mirrors.fedoraproject.org.     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
mirrors.fedoraproject.org. 5    IN      CNAME   wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
wildcard.fedoraproject.org. 5   IN      A       209.132.176.120
wildcard.fedoraproject.org. 5   IN      A       66.35.62.166
wildcard.fedoraproject.org. 5   IN      A       80.239.156.215
wildcard.fedoraproject.org. 5   IN      A       152.46.7.222

;; Query time: 2306 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.254.2#53(192.168.254.2)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov  6 15:22:51 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 130

$

then trying pinging them or traceroute. some get replies, others fail. if only one seems to work, then it might be better to create a static record in your /etc/hosts (hopefully not)

Code:

$ traceroute mirrors.fedoraproject.org
traceroute to mirrors.fedoraproject.org (66.35.62.166), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.254.2 (192.168.254.2)  0.312 ms  0.259 ms  0.244 ms
 2  wildcard.fedoraproject.org (66.35.62.166)  184.329 ms !X  182.133 ms !X  184.153 ms !X
$ ping 209.132.176.120
PING 209.132.176.120 (209.132.176.120) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 209.132.176.120: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=158 ms
64 bytes from 209.132.176.120: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=158 ms
64 bytes from 209.132.176.120: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=157 ms
^C
--- 209.132.176.120 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2176ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 157.991/158.644/158.973/0.652 ms
$ traceroute 209.132.176.120
traceroute to 209.132.176.120 (209.132.176.120), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.254.2 (192.168.254.2)  0.391 ms  0.257 ms  0.240 ms
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$

it may also be worth checking your routes to make sure they're going to the correct gateway.

Code:

$ sudo /sbin/route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.254.0   *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
default         192.168.254.2   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
$

since your laptop can get into fedoraproject.org, grab the URLs of a few mirrors and edit your /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo and /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo trying one of the URLs for baseurl. here i have it pointing to japan.

Code:

#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
baseurl=http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch

if you have the CD/DVD though, i'd imagine you can just grab the RPM and install it from there instead of using yum

warkbt · #11 2009-11-05, 08:23 PM CST

If you can't connect to internet. You can try, if you have some sort of portable media (like a pendrive USB), download nautilus rpm (like from: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...?buildID=55908). Note: you need to know your machine architecture i386 (intel/amd 32 bits) or ppc (power pc 32 bits) or x86_64 (intel/amd 64 bits).

Code:

rpm -ivh nautilus*.rpm

But you will have to mount a usb pendrive only via console:

Code:

mkdir -p /media/disk/
mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk/
rpm -ivh /media/disk/nautilus*.rpm
umount /media/disk/
rmdir /media/disk/

Note: "/dev/sdb1" is not 100% accurate (maybe its sda1 or sdc1 or sdd1) and "vfat" is for FAT32

Gundog68 · #12 2009-11-06, 01:46 AM CST

Thanks all, I'm away for the weekend and I'll catch up on the advice/instructions in a couple of days.
Thanks again.

yati · #13 2009-11-06, 02:20 AM CST

it seems you're not able to connect to the internet.... i have an ADSL (BB) connection... i you have the same, i.e., broadband and you *used* to use the internet before this happened, as root type :

Code:

# ifup eth0

and something like this should appear

Determining IP information for eth0... done.
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

your net-interface is most likely eth0, but you never know, so if it's other than eth0, be sure to replace with what you have.
good luck!!

Gundog68 · #14 Yesterday, 09:45 PM CST

Quote:

Originally Posted by warkbt

If you can't connect to internet. You can try, if you have some sort of portable media (like a pendrive USB), download nautilus rpm (like from: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...?buildID=55908). Note: you need to know your machine architecture i386 (intel/amd 32 bits) or ppc (power pc 32 bits) or x86_64 (intel/amd 64 bits).

Code:

rpm -ivh nautilus*.rpm

But you will have to mount a usb pendrive only via console:

Code:

mkdir -p /media/disk/
mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk/
rpm -ivh /media/disk/nautilus*.rpm
umount /media/disk/
rmdir /media/disk/

Note: "/dev/sdb1" is not 100% accurate (maybe its sda1 or sdc1 or sdd1) and "vfat" is for FAT32

I followed the instructions (even managed to install extensions first) now my machine tells me Nautilus is installed but I still can't get past the log in screen, both as root or user.

Where to from here?

Thanks all

Edit: I tried following ramatut's advice but I'm way out of my depth when it comes to the "editing repos" part...