Mic fails in FC11, worked in FC10

[leonpollak]

Hello,

Recently, I upgraded my MSI MS-1221 notebook from FC10 to FC11. I got everything to work (kstartupconfig4 did not start because of absent versions of libcrypto.so.7 and libssl.so.7 - was installed 8).

But now, my mic does not work although it worked in FC10.

I tried to remove pulseaudio as recommended - no effect.

The mic is not working at all, not just too weak, but nothing...

Any help will be highly appreciated.

[leonpollak]

Again, I shall be very thankful for any hint where and/or how to debug the issue.

[bob]

AdamW's suggested opening a terminal and running: alsamixer -c0 which should bring up all the controls. You can see if there's anything that's minimized or muted with the mike there.

[leonpollak]

Thank you, Bob!
It really helped in the sense that now I can hear and record.
Still, the quality of the sound is VERY poor (it worked perfect in FC10).
I played with alsamixer several days - the same issue all the time: or I hear a lot of noise when playing back recorded sound (even from external mic+phone set), or the sund is very very week. No acceptable combination of controls...:-(
How it all worked in FC10 without me touching a thing!?

[Bert Rolston]

Originally Posted by leonpollak

Thank you, Bob!
It really helped in the sense that now I can hear and record.
Still, the quality of the sound is VERY poor (it worked perfect in FC10).
I played with alsamixer several days - the same issue all the time: or I hear a lot of noise when playing back recorded sound (even from external mic+phone set), or the sund is very very week. No acceptable combination of controls...:-(
How it all worked in FC10 without me touching a thing!?

Hey ho,

I use Gnome on a Del Ltitude D600 laptop. I had problems getting SKYPE to record.
First I stopped SKYPE from controlling sound settings which didn't do much.

I found I had to remove all PULSE AUDIO, then play around with the ALSA mixer using the GNOME Advanced sound control applet.

Selecting mic boost helped to get decent input.
Then I had to play with 3D conrol / PCM / Master volume levels.

I had problems with feedback during audio playback because the MIC doesn't mute automatically. Manually muting all audio input devices fixed that. I also have to be careful I don't place my hands to close to the speakers when recording or feedback may occur.

Now sound is good on everything (well as good as laptop speakers can be).

Cheers,
Bert

[Quasaur]

when I asked yum to remove all pulseaudio packages this is what I got:

Removing:
 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio             i586          1.0.21-2.fc11                      installed         86 k
 kde-settings-pulseaudio             noarch        4.2-12.1                           installed         0.0 
 pulseaudio                          x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed        1.9 M
 pulseaudio-libs                     i586          0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed        1.8 M
 pulseaudio-libs                     x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed        1.8 M
 pulseaudio-libs-glib2               x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed         17 k
 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth         x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed        208 k
 pulseaudio-module-gconf             x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed         22 k
 pulseaudio-module-x11               x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed         49 k
 pulseaudio-utils                    x86_64        0.9.15-17.fc11                     installed        169 k
 xine-lib-pulseaudio                 x86_64        1.1.16.3-2.fc11                    installed         17 k
Removing for dependencies:
 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio             x86_64        1.0.21-2.fc11                      installed         93 k
 amarok                              x86_64        2.2.0-2.fc11                       installed         13 M
 amarok-libs                         x86_64        2.2.0-2.fc11                       installed        6.6 M
 audacious                           x86_64        1.5.1-11.fc11                      installed        2.5 M
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 bluez                               x86_64        4.42-6.fc11                        installed        1.1 M
 cheese                              x86_64        2.26.3-1.fc11                      installed        3.9 M
 control-center                      x86_64        1:2.26.0-10.fc11                   installed        8.1 M
 empathy-libs                        x86_64        2.26.2-1.fc11                      installed        654 k
 espeak                              x86_64        1.40.02-2.fc11                     installed        1.2 M
 espeak-devel                        x86_64        1.40.02-2.fc11                     installed         21 k
 farsight2                           x86_64        0.0.14-1.fc11                      installed        474 k
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 gecko-mediaplayer                   x86_64        0.9.8-1.fc11                       installed        465 k
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 gnome-bluetooth                     x86_64        2.27.8-3.fc11                      installed        1.3 M
 gnome-bluetooth-libs                x86_64        2.27.8-3.fc11                      installed        101 k
 gnome-do-plugins-pidgin             x86_64        0.8.1-6.fc11                       installed         71 k
 gnome-do-plugins-rhythmbox          x86_64        0.8.1-6.fc11                       installed         46 k
 gnome-media                         x86_64        2.28.1-1.fc11                      installed        1.0 M
 gnome-media-libs                    x86_64        2.28.1-1.fc11                      installed        3.6 M
 gnome-mplayer-common                x86_64        0.9.8-1.fc11                       installed        621 k
 gnome-mplayer-minimal               x86_64        0.9.8-1.fc11                       installed        294 k
 gnome-packagekit                    x86_64        2.27.3-1.fc11                      installed        8.7 M
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 gnome-power-manager                 x86_64        2.26.4-3.fc11                      installed        7.7 M
 gnome-session                       x86_64        2.26.2-1.fc11                      installed        1.9 M
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 gnome-settings-daemon               x86_64        2.26.1-11.fc11                     installed        2.1 M
 gnome-speech-espeak                 x86_64        0.4.25-2.fc11                      installed         18 k
 gnormalize                          x86_64        0.63-7.fc11                        installed        1.6 M
 gst-mixer                           x86_64        2.26.0-3.fc11                      installed        3.5 M
 gstreamer-plugins-good              x86_64        0.10.16-2.fc11                     installed        3.8 M
 gstreamer-plugins-good-devel        x86_64        0.10.16-2.fc11                     installed         0.0 
 kdebase-runtime                     x86_64        4.3.2-4.fc11                       installed         13 M
 kdebase-runtime-libs                x86_64        4.3.2-4.fc11                       installed        4.9 M
 libcanberra                         i586          0.12-1.fc11                        installed        154 k
 libcanberra                         x86_64        0.12-1.fc11                        installed        167 k
 libcanberra-devel                   x86_64        0.12-1.fc11                        installed        128 k
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 libcanberra-gtk2                    x86_64        0.12-1.fc11                        installed         45 k
 libpurple                           x86_64        2.6.3-2.fc11                       installed         22 M
 libpurple-devel                     x86_64        2.6.3-2.fc11                       installed        1.1 M
 libpurple-perl                      x86_64        2.6.3-2.fc11                       installed        1.1 M
 metacity                            x86_64        2.26.0-1.fc11                      installed        9.1 M
 mpg123                              x86_64        1.9.1-13.fc11                      installed        937 k
 mplayer                             x86_64        4:1.0-71_snap20091017.fc11         installed         32 M
 nautilus-sendto                     x86_64        1.1.5-2.fc11                       installed        536 k
 nautilus-sound-converter            x86_64        1.0.1-2.fc11                       installed         70 k
 orca                                x86_64        2.26.3-1.fc11                      installed        9.6 M
 pidgin                              x86_64        2.6.3-2.fc11                       installed        3.1 M
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 pychess                             noarch        0.8.2-3.fc11                       installed        3.9 M
 rhythmbox                           x86_64        0.12.3-1.fc11                      installed         11 M
 sound-juicer                        x86_64        2.26.1-4.fc11                      installed        3.3 M
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Transaction Summary
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Remove       88 Package(s)

There must be a better way...???

[Quasaur]

Dell Inspiron E1505
Sigmatel STAC9200
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
Fedora11
Gnome 2.26.3
Sound is fine, except the microphone input is not recognized.
The only input recognized is my Vega USB 2.0 Web Camera.

created a modprobe.d/*.conf that consolidates all the sound:

# all sound settings should go here
alias char-major-116-* snd
alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel


install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]}

install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && /sbin/modprobe snd-emu10k1-synth

options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m25

but still no mic...please help!!!

[Quasaur]

i downloaded/installed pavucontrol, which was able to located and activate the microphone input...YAY!!!

[socratien]

hi
I have the same problem with FC11 and my sound
performing pavucontrol fails and no message in log : an error about connection server displays
any help please?
for information, sound with audacious works but is very awful? I don't succeed audacious in reading mp3 files ( yum audacious-nonfree fails too)
non microphone

[Quasaur]

I wonder...is there a yum @group for MIDI/sophisticated audio packages? Maybe one should be created.