Can not start up scim (Input method) (Problem inputting Chinese)

hantsy · #1 28th August 2009, 07:20 AM

In the .xsession-error.
I found the following message after gnome desktop started.

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use user-pecific settings>>>>>>>>>>>>

imsettings information

==========================

Is DBus enabled: yes

Is imsettings enabled: yes

Is GTK+ supported: yes

Is Qt supported: no

DESKTOP_SESSION: gnome

DISABLE_IMSETTINGS: 

IMSETTINGS_DISABLE_DESKTOP_CHECK: 

DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS: unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-hY6vUejOBk,guid=9971a2fca136ae03e274bc524a97736c

GTK_IM_MODULE: 

QT_IM_MODULE: xim

XMODIFIERS: @im=imsettings

IMSETTINGS_MODULE: SCIM



Started SCIM

GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-AdQgnB/socket

SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-AdQgnB/socket.ssh

Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/hantsy/.config/metacity/sessions/102c2ce164bf9de0d7125143947332813300000025460037.ms: Failed to open file '/home/hantsy/.config/metacity/sessions/102c2ce164bf9de0d7125143947332813300000025460037.ms': No such file or directory

** Message: NumLock remembering disabled because hostname is set to "localhost"

Starting Dropbox...

** (nm-applet:2808): WARNING **: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 2



** (nm-applet:2808): WARNING **: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 2

Initializing nautilus-dropbox 0.6.1

Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension



(imsettings-start:2793): IMSettings-WARNING **: Failed to invoke a method `GetVersion' on com.redhat.imsettings:

  Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

Mismatch the version of imsettings.

Run imsettings-reload -f may resolves this issue but be aware that will ends up to restart Input Method too



** (nautilus:2786): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported

Done!

Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": /home/hantsy/.dropbox-dist/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/bug-buddy/libbreakpad.so.0)

Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x240005a (Buddy List)

Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed.

Loading socket Config module ...

Creating backend ...

Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...

Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.

I run imsettings-info command and get the following message.

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(process:3303): IMSettings-WARNING **: Failed to invoke a method `GetVersion' on com.redhat.imsettings:

  Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

Mismatch the version of imsettings.

Run imsettings-reload -f may resolves this issue but be aware that will ends up to restart Input Method too

My kernel info

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Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24 17:01:46 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

scottro · #2 28th August 2009, 02:00 PM

For what it's worth, as of F11, Fedora defaults to ibus. (Which would be started with ibus-daemon ---xim

What happens if you just type

scim -d

in terminal?

hantsy · #3 28th August 2009, 03:22 PM

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[hantsy@localhost ~]$ scim -d
Smart Common Input Method 1.4.8

Launching a SCIM process with x11...
Loading socket Config module ...
Creating backend ...
Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
Failed to launch SCIM.
[hantsy@localhost ~]$

Currently , ibus is buggy and sometimes it does not work correctly especially after system update(with ibus update) .
I'm a Chinese , I have to use IM every day.
Scim is more stable .

hantsy · #4 28th August 2009, 03:31 PM

Another problem I found , I can not use IM in QT application in GNOME desktop ( before IM problem occurs).
But before it works well.

scottro · #5 28th August 2009, 10:25 PM

Sometimes, *that* one can be fixed with

QT_IM_MODULE="scim"

Looking at scim --help shows the option

scim --no-socket Do not try to start a SCIM FrontEnd daemon

You could try that, but I honestly have no idea--I haven't had it fail to run in years.

hantsy · #6 29th August 2009, 04:43 AM

Thank you for your suggestion.
I found SCIM is started , but IM icon does not display in the notification area.
I can use CTRL+SPACE to start up it in GTK application.

I tried run scribus by the following command.

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QT_IM_MODULE=scim scribus

SCIM still does not work.

Another question about Fedora, I found scim scripts in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ the the 'GTK_IM_MODULE' and 'QT_IM_MODULE' value are set, but when system is started, all the variables are cleared.

scottro · #7 29th August 2009, 11:33 AM

I can only tell you what works for me, but I use it very differently than you do. Firstly, I use it for Japanese, not Chinese, but if one sets the engine (anthy in my case) I don't know how much difference there will be. I suspect that Fedora isn't paying that much attention to scim now, as its gone to ibus, but I honestly don't know.

What I do is create a little script (note that my LC_CTYPE is English, because I want my menus and such in English.)

It reads

XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 GTK_IM_MODULE="scim" QT_IM_MODULE="scim" ${1+"$@"} &

Then, I just call any app where I need Japanese with

lang.sh <application_name>

I don't know if that will work for you, as it seems you want it to be always available. You might try putting in .bash_profile (and if it doesn't do the job there, perhaps in .bashrc)

export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM'
LC_CTYPE=<your language settings, for example zh_CN.UTF-8>
export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"
export QT_IM_MODUL="scim"

I also don't use it with Gnome, so I can't be too much help with that either. I'm going to try changing your thread topic so that perhaps others who use Chinese might stop and look at the thread and perhaps be able to be of more help than I am.

You might also have to run im-switch or whatever it's called. (Again, I don't use it very frequently, so once again, I fear I'm unable to be very helpful.)

Also, the scim failed to start error is something I haven't encountered, and I have no idea of how to do that.

One thing I HAVE encountered in Fedora at times is that the $HOME/.scim/config file will be missing the

/Hotkeys/FrontEnd/Trigger = Control+space

line and I've had to add it, but that doesn't sound as if it's your issue.

hantsy · #8 1st September 2009, 04:08 PM

I read some script code about gdm startup.
I think the magic is in in the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-xinput.sh.
It cleared up the variables GTK_IM_MODULE and QT_IM_MODULE.
It tried to start up user specific configuration firstly , then tried to load up system scope configuration.

The IM error message I posted before may be a bug of IMSettings.