Todays updates error

[miles]

after years of improvements, yum still sucks for several reasons:
1) today showing that it won't run from the command line - mission mirrors, .....
2) even using the fastest mirror plugin - it still selects too many usa edu mirrors which suck in speed
3) why do we even have to use a "fastest mirror plugin" - that just shows it's deficient
4) try to interrupt it - the cntrl-C duplicate of 1 second never catches - then it seems impossible to terminate
5) the package update gui sucks since it doesn't show progress, download speeds, versons .....and is hard to simply select individual packages such as not updating a 80mb open office update when on a slow connection

maybe red hat and the fedora guys have too much pride to kill this system, but it's the right thing to do - it's a big loser and it's time to admit apt-get is better and switch over to it. Since we have some Ubuntu machines, I can tell you the combination of apt-get on the command line and synaptics on the gui side is far better. Both RH and Fedora have a lot going for them and it would be a shame to leave it over a NIH (not invented here) syndrome on yum but updating is pretty critical.

[JN4OldSchool]

Why not? It's becoming like Ubuntu in most other regards.

[gid99]

I'm beginning to think the repositories are corrupt - for me, the first six of the (alphabetical) list have not downloaded correctly - the five listed above, plus gstreamer-plugins-good.

I have looked on a couple of repositories myself, and the problem RPMs are at a previous version or missing completely. Also I last had an update on 4th July, then nothing. Perhaps it's the holiday, but I'm suspicious!.

Updated what I could by exluding packages missing on the repositories (--exclude=...) and ignoring packages that therefore had missing dependencies (--skip-broken)

# yum --exclude=alsa-plugins-pulseaudio --exclude=dhclient --exclude=farsight2 --exclude=gdb --exclude=grubby --exclude=gstreamer-plugins-good --skip-broken update

This updated everything else, except nash and mkinitrd as these have a dependency on grubby, which was excluded.

Thanks Steve (and everyone here)...

I placed those packages you (and others) cited as having problems temporarily in my /etc/yum.conf under "excludes" (and will revert this later when fixed).

I'm trying yet another

root@mysystem # yum clean all
root@mysystem # yum clean metadata
root@mysystem # yum --exclude=alsa-plugins-pulseaudio --exclude=dhclient --exclude=farsight2 --exclude=gdb --exclude=grubby --exclude=gstreamer-plugins-good --skip-broken update

I've read this thread, didn't see where anyone noticed a bug at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist....tatus=FAILS_QA

Does anyone know if a bug on this has been submitted (or is there a better method to address this in this specific case)?

Thanks
gid99

[jerkface]

Somebody needs a smiley!

It's Sunday. Do you really expect devs to get over last night's hangover and fix this on Sunday? Monday is much more realistic...and don't expect them to be happy about doing it.

Ha, the real reason open source software blows!

[bob]

OTOH, you're not paying them for their beer and you get your updates more often than once a month....just not normally on Sundays....or when the sun is out.....or if there's a good game on....or......

[gid99]

Ha, the real reason open source software blows!

Consider the statement of the alternative non-open source software...

[av1611]

Ha, the real reason open source software blows!

And yet my sucky open source hasn't had a virus or spyware attack ever in the several years I"ve been using it... on the other hand the THOUSANDS of dollars I've spent on non-free OS's have been matched by THOUSANDS of dollars to keep it's inumerable security exploits filled oddly seems like money not well spent

[JN4OldSchool]

And yet my sucky open source hasn't had a virus or spyware attack ever in the several years I"ve been using it... on the other hand the THOUSANDS of dollars I've spent on non-free OS's have been matched by THOUSANDS of dollars to keep it's inumerable security exploits filled oddly seems like money not well spent

Sheesh, it MUST be a full moon. Everyone is so touchy! Thousands huh?

[jerkface]

OTOH, you're not paying them for their beer and you get your updates more often than once a month....just not normally on Sundays....or when the sun is out.....or if there's a good game on....or......

I have to buy beer for geeks all the time. You must have me confused with another jerkface.

[isaac]

thanks dudes, the exclude recipe worked for me. i'm content because the problem isn't just me, there's a temporary workaround, and i'm sure it'll be fixed soon. anyways thanks

[gid99]

And yet my sucky open source hasn't had a virus or spyware attack ever in the several years I"ve been using it... on the other hand the THOUSANDS of dollars I've spent on non-free OS's have been matched by THOUSANDS of dollars to keep it's inumerable security exploits filled oddly seems like money not well spent

I mention something on topic after the diversion...

[diversion]

Plus, the alternative non-open source operating system servers *can not* run a Quantum Stornext high-speed file system (over 900MB sustained write speed), one of the highest-speed file systems in the world. The alternative non-open source operating system company uses Linux with Quantum Stornext high-speed file system, because (again), the well-known non-open source OS can NOT run Quantum Stornext high-speed file system. For that matter, the non-open source software server editions can not run IBRIX high-speed file systems either, they can be a client, but the server edition of IBRIX high speed file system (a competitor to Quantum Stornext Fusion) only runs on Linux.

In a nutshell,
the well-known non-open source server OS can not run 1) IBRIX server or 2) Quantum Stornext high-speed file system SERVER (Quantum's could really do a better job on advertisement of their outstanding product). But either of these 2 products can only run in a server mode on Linux/UNIX platforms. The well-known non-open source server OS can NOT run it. It can only be a *client* system in such a high-speed file system architecture.

Pixar uses IBRIX and has had impressive results (google 'cars' and 'pixar' with 'ibrix') . Quantum also has an impressive list of customers who use their high-speed file system. The prominent non-open source OS can not run it on their OS in a server role, they use linux, yes, THEY use linux for this because (again) it won't work on their OS in a server role.

Yet another reason to use open source.

[/diversion]

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by the way - back to topic,

I tried what Steve suggested above,

yum --exclude=alsa-plugins-pulseaudio --exclude=dhclient --exclude=farsight2 --exclude=gdb --exclude=grubby --exclude=gstreamer-plugins-good --skip-broken update

and it trips on gnome-common

Downloading Packages:
http://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
ftp://fedora.bu.edu/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 450 gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: No such file or directory
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://astromirror.uchicago.edu/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] 530 Sorry, max 10 users -- try again later
Trying other mirror.
http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirrors.reflected.net/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.

And at the end...

Error Downloading Packages:
  gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch: failure: gnome-common-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm from updates: (256, 'No more mirrors to try.')

I'll try it without gnome-common (what a bummer to exclude that eh?) ..

Is this something that ought to go to a bug at Red Hat's bugzilla? I've never posted a bug, even though I administer rhel and use fedora extensively...

[gid99]

Okay,

After trying Steve's suggestion above (Thank you Steve), I had to add one more thing to my instantiation of F11 with the yum update and exclude fun/joy...

Namely:

root@mysystem #   yum \
--exclude=alsa-plugins-pulseaudio \
--exclude=dhclient \
--exclude=farsight2 \
--exclude=gdb \
--exclude=grubby \
--exclude=gstreamer-plugins-good \
--exclude=gnome-common \
--skip-broken \
update

And it "worked" (did not trip as described in my previous post).

Updated:
  gstreamer-plugins-ugly.i586 0:0.10.12-1.fc11  kdenetwork.i586 7:4.2.4-4.fc11           kdenetwork-libs.i586 7:4.2.4-4.fc11             
  kipi-plugins.i586 0:0.3.0-2.fc11              lftp.i586 0:3.7.14-1.fc11                libcap.i586 0:2.16-4.fc11.1                     
  libcap-devel.i586 0:2.16-4.fc11.1             oprofile.i586 0:0.9.4-7.fc11             oprofile-gui.i586 0:0.9.4-7.fc11                
  phonon.i586 0:4.3.1-6.fc11                    phonon-backend-xine.i586 0:4.3.1-6.fc11  rpm.i586 0:4.7.0-2.fc11                         
  rpm-build.i586 0:4.7.0-2.fc11                 rpm-devel.i586 0:4.7.0-2.fc11            rpm-libs.i586 0:4.7.0-2.fc11                    
  rpm-python.i586 0:4.7.0-2.fc11                selinux-policy.noarch 0:3.6.12-62.fc11   selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.6.12-62.fc11 
  unique.i586 0:1.0.8-1.fc11                    vgabios.noarch 0:0.6b-2.fc11             webkitgtk.i586 0:1.1.8-1.fc11                   
  xfsprogs.i586 0:3.0.1-6.fc11                 

Complete!

Hopefully, I can un-exclude these very soon.

[gid99]

Normally this might happen during the updating of the servers. But then it should go away in 20 minutes or so. If it stays like this - file a bug in Bugzilla.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510986

I've used RHEL/Fedora for years, never submitted a bug. My report above I'm sure looks like I've never submitted a bug. Hopefully it is helpful enough.

[av1611]

Sheesh, it MUST be a full moon. Everyone is so touchy! Thousands huh?

Yes thousands. You ever price Windows 2003 server with 50 CAL licenses and AV to cover all that? Yea, thousands. Ever pay for a legal copy of XP Pro? it's 130 OEM and much more after the fact. I have 11 computers in my home/office. Yea, thousands. I run LTSP... price out the M$ solution to do the same... Yea, Thousands. I could go on. Yea, Thousands.

[wvn]

This thread is about the current problem with the updates and not to argue. Problem still stands.

UPDATE

After endless errors one mirror is responding, it is downloading now but very very slow.