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Old 6th July 2009, 10:45 AM
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FC11 on Dell OptiPlex GX620

I installed FC11 on this computer.
It looks fine but It can't find the Network card: Broadcom BCM5751.
Does anyone know if there's a driver for it?
Thanks
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Old 6th July 2009, 10:57 PM
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That should work using the tg3 module, post the output of:

Code:
lspci -v | awk '/Ethernet/,/^$/'
try 'modprobe tg3' if it's not loaded
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Old 7th July 2009, 06:50 AM
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Feeling a little newbie :/

Thanks for the reply but the solution was easier and a little newbie by me
I tried to install the Mac OSX Leopard and It didn't workout much SO I disabled some stuff in the BIOS (like NETWORK CARD) and I forgot to turn on all those integrated stuff.
Now everything is working (Duhhh, the network card isn't disabled now).
Fedora Core 11 works GREAT on this computer even with Compiz FULL ON
Someone asked me: What is the added value that I can get from Linux?
The truth, I didn't know what to answer.
For video and audio it's great like Windows but for Gaming, Developing (Visual Studio) it's not so good.
Do you have any answer that I can give him?
And thanks.
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Old 7th July 2009, 10:40 AM
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Tell him that if you want gaming and Visual Studio development environment then use windows.
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Old 7th July 2009, 02:34 PM
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Visual Studio

Although I heard from someone that Eclipse is not that bad at all too
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Old 7th July 2009, 08:02 PM
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I forgot to turn on all those integrated stuff.
Boy do I know that feeling...
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Someone asked me: What is the added value that I can get from Linux?
The truth, I didn't know what to answer.
Freedom.

Before I get drowned out in groans, any discussion on features will end up going against you. Not because gnu/linux does not have great features, but because the discussion will always be driven from the proprietary perspective.

They will always be able to point to some feature of their favorite proprietary system which they can claim that linux does not have a "suitable" replacement for.

It doesn't matter that you can achieved the same ends by another path.

The visual studio environment is a case in point.

You can say that linux has "real" development environments.
But the one thing that the proprietary crowd cannot beat you on is the freedom built in. Point out that you have access to the full development kit for free. Ask if they can edit their kernel source code.

Point out that gnu/linux does not get monitored by the vendor, that you can give away copies to anyone who wants one and it is legal, that you won't risk getting your system shut down because redmond cannot authenticate your license.

More on the philosophy of free software:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

More on selling gnu/linux
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/linuxmanship/

Don't get caught out again
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Old 12th July 2009, 01:49 PM
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I guess that you're right

BUT ... and it's a HUGE But ...
the installation on Windows Against Linux is much more simplier and user friendly.
I think that I said enough
But, really, so far Windows/Mac OSX are better than any linux distro.
The localization is one thing to think about.
I don't have any problem running linux in my house and GOD DAMN I will do it.
But, I am going to buy a computer for gaming (and running some VMs).
My games won't work on Linux, what can I do?
There isn't a AMAZING substitue for Outlook.
But Linux is a great OS which is good for people like you and me.
The transfer rate of files is AMAZING, windows can't beat that
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Old 14th July 2009, 07:16 AM
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BUT ... and it's a HUGE But ...
the installation on Windows Against Linux is much more simplier and user friendly.
I think that I said enough
Last time I tried installing Windows XP, it had no drivers for any of my hardware. The windows folk informed me that I had to remaster the install CD to include the drivers.

The same generation linux suppored all the HW out of the box, no configuration.
So it depends on what you want to do.

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But, really, so far Windows/Mac OSX are better than any linux distro.
The localization is one thing to think about.
You have to be kidding - major gnu/linux distros have more localisation options out of the box too. And all the updates work for all localisations right from the start.

Perhaps you are thinking of local localisations you get when you buy the licence? You buy Windows in Germany and it is german local?

There are also preset distros - however, most distros are pushed globally.

But I notice that your "but" is in response to the "freedom" argument. Do you mean to say that it is justifiable to sell your freedom for easier installs and pre-set localisation?
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