FC3T3 upgrade totally wrecked my FC2 system

me2 · #1 22nd October 2004, 05:04 PM

I did a FC3T3 upgrade on my FC2 system last night. FC2 was running absolutely perfect. The reason I did the upgrade is so that I could get KDE.3.3 so that I could install KDevelop3.1.1 I desperately need some of the changes in it.

BTW: I know that test releases aren't supposed to be used on work machines, but I've been trying to update KDE for the last 3 days and couldn't get it to work.

There are so many problems I don't know where to start. I think these are the most important to get fixed first off:

1) konqueror is my browser. It opens fine. I put www.cnn.com in the address box and press return. At that point the system keeps spawning new browsers. They just keep appearing continuously until I ctrl-alt-backpace out of my session.

It didn't do this when I first booted FC3T3. I could browse without any problems. Somewhere along the way this probled developed. I was getting a dcop (dhcop ?) message in KDE at one point. I don't know what happened to it.

2) I don't have access to the CDROM. In Start Here, the CDROM device is shown and it is installed as /dev/hdc in dmesgs. If I click on the CDROM, it tells me it is already mounted, but there is no way to browse it. I am not sure if there is a problem with the device, its mounting or the browser.

How do I troubleshoot this. The systems logs look fine.

3) up2date has no channels ! The first thing I did when I could boot FC3T3 was to run up2date to get the updated packages. My up2date told me there were 340 upgraded packages available. I tried to update them all but my system hung at resolving RPM dependencies. (for 10 hours) I booted up2date again. It told me that up2date itself needed updating and that I should do that first. So I ran up2date and selected ONLY up2date and rpm packages for updating. That ran fine. When I ran up2date a second time to update all the rest of the packages, the channels were gone.

Question: what is the channel for FC3T3 updates ?

BTW: synaptic reports 4 broken packages and if I select "Fix Broken Packages", the "fix" involves removing a whole pile (20?) of essential packages.

4) I get an error on startup: "sound server fatal error cpu overload aborting". Obviously ALSA isn't being installed. No big deal (right now) if it isn' harming the operation of anything else

Did I mention my FC2 install worked fine !

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.

heffe2001 · #2 22nd October 2004, 05:09 PM

Can't help with #1, I use Firefox.

#2 the /dev/cdrom is mounted under /media/cdrecorder (on my system at least), try looking there for the CD.

#3 I fixed by getting a /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file from the up2date that came on the DVD, for some reason when I updated the up2date from the repository it came without that file. Once I put that in there, up2date worked fine again.

me2 · #3 22nd October 2004, 05:17 PM

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll boot up and check out the CDROM mounting.

I upgraded from ISOs on CDROMs. Which CDROM would have the /etc/sysconfid/rhn/sources file ?

Thanks.

me2 · #4 22nd October 2004, 05:18 PM

Do you think the spawning loop is caused by konqueror or the OS ?

me2 · #5 22nd October 2004, 05:51 PM

I rebooted and checked out a few things:

I cannot access a CDROM:

a) the cdom is not mounted under /media/cdrecorder
b) there is a link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdc
c) I cannot access /dev/cdrom
d) When I umount /dev/cdrom or /dev/hdc, the system tells me they are not mounted
e) When I try to mount /dev/hdc, the system tells me it is busy.

I cannot install any new software with synaptic because it wants to fix the system by removing 20 packages.

I cannot browser with konqueror because of the spawning loop.

The only thing I can do is send and receive email.

Heffe: I sent you a PM asking you to email me your rhn.conf file. I'm hoping that *IF* I can get the upgrades done that some of these bugs will disappear. Please PM me if anyone else can email me the rhn.conf file.

THANKS !

heffe2001 · #6 22nd October 2004, 06:14 PM

Just in case anybody else needs it: (/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file):

Code:

### This describes the various package repositories (repos) that up2date will
### query for packages. It currently supports apt-rpm, yum, and "dir" repos.

### Format is one repository (repo) entry per line, # starts comments, the
### first word on each line is the type of repo.

### The default RHN (using "default" as the url means use the one in the 
### up2date config file). This is required.
#up2date default

### Note: when a channel label is required for the non up2date repos,
### the label is solely used as an internal identifier and is not
### based on the url or any other info from the repos.

### An apt style repo (the example is arjan's 2.6 kernel repo).
### The format is:
### type  channel-label      service:server	    path        repo name
#apt arjan-2.6-kernel-i386 http://people.redhat.com ~arjanv/2.5/ kernel

### Note: for apt repos, there can be multiple repo names specified (space
### seperated).

### A yum style repo. The format is:
### type  channel-label     url 
yum fedora-core-rawhide http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH/
yum-mirror fedora-core-rawhide  http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up...a-core-rawhide
#yum fedore-core-2-test1-updates http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-1
#yum-mirror fedora-core-1 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up.../fedora-core-1
#yum-mirror updates-released http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up...dates-released
#yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever
#yum-mirror updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up...pdates-testing

### A local directory full of packages (a "dir" repo). For example:
#dir my-favorite-rpms-i386-9 /var/spool/RPMS/

# Multiple versions of all repos except "up2date" can be used. Dependencies
# can be resolved "cross-repo" if need be.

jale2ice · #7 22nd October 2004, 06:40 PM

me2, try to use yum instead of up2date from a terminal.

As root: yum install yum
yum update

**Finalzone** · #8 22nd October 2004, 08:42 PM

When I used the method to test FC3T3 with the latest package, there is a coflict between
xorg-x11-base-font and xorg-11-font-utils.

I manually remove xorg-x11-base-font to install the new version of xorg-11-font-utils then continue to update. The bad news is the network is completely lost on update (I am using WinXP by the time I am writing). I even use Disk Rescue to fix the issue, unfortunately the network hangs. I am unable to retrieve the problem now, maybe i should reinstall Fedora.

me2 · #9 22nd October 2004, 08:49 PM

OK. I got the sources file and installed it. This allowed me to run up2date.

Rather than running the whole update, I updated the following packages in this order:

up2date, rpm, yum, kdebase (which includes konqueror) and then kernel 2.6.9-1.640.

I have not installed the rest of the updates as the update server seems to be quite slow.

I've still got the following problems:

a) no way to mount/read a CDROM. The CDROM drive is /dev/hdc. I can't mount it. I can't read it. It isn't mounted on /media/cdrecorder, although a link to such appears on the desktop.

b) the file browser (Konqueror) hangs if opened with the devices showing. This problem is probably related to a).

c) I still get an endless span of Konqueror applications if I open a web page ie www.cnn.com.

Email works fine. Network works fine.

I'm thinking that the Konqueror problem might be caused by library incompatibilites. I might have installed a newer version of kdelib while trying to install kdevelop. If I could just get a CDROM to work properly, I could check the version against the install disk and fix that. Any ideas on the CDROM problem ?

heffe2001 · #10 23rd October 2004, 03:38 AM

IF a link appears on the desktop, it's mounted. That's the only time I get a link on the desktop is if it's currently mounted...

You might want to try re-installing Konqueror and see if that helps.

Have you tried to double click the cd that shows up on the desktop and see if you can browse it?

me2 · #11 23rd October 2004, 05:08 AM

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP EARLIER TODAY, HEFFE !

I got everything working.

CDROM Issue:

a) I cleaned the cdrom entries out of /etc/fstab.

b) I set my KDE preference to start a new clean session evertime I logged in. There was always a cdrom reference from my last login hanging around.

c) When I did this and logged in again, the cdrom showed up on my desktop as cdrw_dvdrw mounted on /media.

d) It seems to work. konqueror doesn't hang anymore, I can eject and mount and unmount at will. I'm a bit leary because of some messages I saw in the sys logs, but I'll keep using it and report back.

Konqueror being in an endless spawning loop:

This was caused by having the default browser in KDE set to konqueror !

Start-> Control Center->KDE Components->Component Chooser->Web Browser. I had this set to Konqueror. I changed it to "open in an applicated based on the content" (or something like that. The problem went away. I think that konqueror was treating the web address as a weblink and it was calling itself. I'm not sure if that is a bug or not.

Up2date: was very slow and finicky today. I spent most of the day nursing it through the first 150 or packages. I then tried yum and it is working very well.

TODO:

- sound doesn't work yet.
- I need to install kdevelop3.1.3
- my desktop looks messy
- I need to figure out my Nvidia network card driver.

There is still lots of work to do, but at least it runs now.