I can't remove a program that I installed - Noon alert!

MWcline · #1 21st July 2008, 10:04 PM

Hello All,
Yep another noob to Linux. Actually I've tried to install various distros over the last few years, but always gave up in frustration. The other day I got the urge to try again and after Ubuntu kept freezing up during the install I downloaded the DVD for Fedora 9 for i386. After a couple tries I got it installed on my Laptop and it's working pretty well.
I installed Gambas using Add/Remove Software from the system/administration menu. After installing it I discovered that it was very old version and wanted to install the newest version. I thought the 1st step should be to remove the old version, so I went through the motions and all seemed well except that it's still there and still runs. ???? The little cardboard box icon is even closed up now like it's been removed, but it's still there. I did what was probably a stupid thing and went ahead and installed the new version anyway. Luckily it works, but I'm stuck with the old version. Is there any way to get rid of it without manually deleting all the folders and files scattered about? I'm afraid if try that I'll delete something that shouldn't be deleted.

matth45 · #2 21st July 2008, 10:54 PM

Where did you get the new version (Also Add/Remove)? What is the exact name of the Gambas package that you installed from Add/Remove Software and that you now wish to remove? I see there's a 2.5 and a 2.7 version in the repo right now. Is that what you're talking about?

Gambas seems to come in many packages. Search for Gambas in the Add/Remove window and see if there are any other gambas...2.5 packages installed besides the one you first installed. They may have been installed as dependencies. If so, remove them.

MWcline · #3 22nd July 2008, 01:26 AM

I have no idea where the new version I installed came from. All I did was enter "yum install Gambas2" and yum (I think) did the rest.

The original install of Gambas was titled "gambas-ide-1.0.19-6.fc9 (i386)" and is the only Gambas entry in the Add/Remove Software list when I click the Programming section in the left side panel. Originally I selected it and then clicked install. I selected that same package when I tried to remove it. There was nothing else to select. and it looked like it removed it. No errors or message about dependencies.

Ok, I just did a find on "Gambas" and it found about 20 pages of gambas entries some are the new ver and some the old. One of the entries was the original "gambas-ide-1.0.19-6.fc9 (i386)" and it showed removed. I tried to remove the 1st entry for the old version in the list and it gave me a list of dependent packages with the option to remove them all. I told it to go ahead and it removed everything just fine and the new version 2.7 still runs fine.
All is well. Thanks

I am not really understanding something here though because I would expect that selecting the exact same package that I installed and telling it to remove would have removed it along with all the others that got installed.

I'm curious, you said "I see there's a 2.5 and a 2.7 version in the repo right now."
Where did you see that?

Thanks again for the prompt and helpful reply.

stevea · #4 22nd July 2008, 01:34 AM

gambas-ide is the development environment. (note that upper/lower case is important).

Post the result of
su -
yum list gamb*
The complete results !

MWcline · #5 22nd July 2008, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevea

gambas-ide is the development environment. (note that upper/lower case is important).

Post the result of
su -
yum list gamb*
The complete results !

Here ya go, but I'm not sure I understand what it is listing.

[root@localhost mike]# yum list gamb*
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* fedora: mirrors.reflected.net
* livna: mirrors.tummy.com
* updates: mirrors.reflected.net
fedora | 2.4 kB 00:00
livna | 2.1 kB 00:00
updates | 2.3 kB 00:00
Installed Packages
gambas2-devel.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-chart.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-compress.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-crypt.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-db.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-desktop.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-form.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-form-dialog.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-form-mdi.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-gtk.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-gtk-ext.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-gtk-svg.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-gui.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-image.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-info.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-net.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-net-curl.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-net-smtp.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-opengl.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-option.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-pcre.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-pdf.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-qt.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-qt-ext.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-qt-kde.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-qt-kde-html.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-qt-opengl.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-report.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-sdl.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-settings.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-v4l.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-vb.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-web.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-xml.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-xml-rpc.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-gb-xml-xslt.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-ide.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-runtime.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
gambas2-script.i386 2.7.0-1.fc9 installed
Available Packages
gambas-gb-compress.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-db.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-debug.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-eval.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-net.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-net-curl.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-qt.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-qt-editor.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-qt-ext.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-qt-kde.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-qt-kde-html.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-sdl.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-vb.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-xml-libxml.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-xml-libxml-rpc.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-gb-xml-libxml-xslt.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-ide.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
gambas-runtime.i386 1.0.19-6.fc9 fedora
[root@localhost mike]#

matth45 · #6 22nd July 2008, 04:08 AM

No problem. I'm glad that worked.

So the Add/Remove GUI is basically a frontend to yum. They both get data from the repositories you have defined in /etc/yum.repos.d/.

The data they get are lists of available packages and dependences. Some packages depend on others. For example, if you try to install gambas2-runtime, it depends on libffi (some library). That means that gambas2-runtime will not work without libffi, so yum installs both packages in order to give you a working system. However, if you uninstall gambas2-runtime, it need not uninstall libffi, and you will be left with libffi on your system. I think this is what happened to you. You installed one package from the group of related gambas2 packages, and yum installed others because of dependences. Then when you removed that first package, the others were not removed.

I commented that there was a 2.5 and 2.7 version in the repo because I can see them in the list of packages that come up when you type Gambas in the Find field in the Add/Remove software GUI.

marcrblevins · #7 22nd July 2008, 04:16 AM

Try to remove all Gambas then install one, either Gambas2 or Gambas.
Start your terminal:

Code:

su -
yum remove gambas2 gambas

When done, then:

Code:

su -
yum install gambas2

marcrblevins · #8 22nd July 2008, 04:16 AM

Actually, can you show use the result of what yum would remove, but don't do it yet.

MWcline · #9 22nd July 2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matth45

No problem. I'm glad that worked.

So the Add/Remove GUI is basically a frontend to yum. They both get data from the repositories you have defined in /etc/yum.repos.d/.

The data they get are lists of available packages and dependences. Some packages depend on others. For example, if you try to install gambas2-runtime, it depends on libffi (some library). That means that gambas2-runtime will not work without libffi, so yum installs both packages in order to give you a working system. However, if you uninstall gambas2-runtime, it need not uninstall libffi, and you will be left with libffi on your system. I think this is what happened to you. You installed one package from the group of related gambas2 packages, and yum installed others because of dependences. Then when you removed that first package, the others were not removed.

I commented that there was a 2.5 and 2.7 version in the repo because I can see them in the list of packages that come up when you type Gambas in the Find field in the Add/Remove software GUI.

Ok, I think I'm beginning to see what's going on here. What threw me is the difference between what the gui displayed when I simply clicked on the programming category and when I searched for "gambas"

Thanks again.

MWcline · #10 22nd July 2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevea

gambas-ide is the development environment. (note that upper/lower case is important).

Post the result of
su -
yum list gamb*
The complete results !

I Knew that.

That's part of what confused me.
I still had the functioning ide after the gui appeared to have removed it.
As far as I can tell, almost everything about Linux is case sensitive.
Thanks