Extension to Support for RHEL 5 & 6

[Evil_Bert]

Red Hat has announced that support for RHEL 5 and RHEL 6 has been extended from 7 to 10 years, as reported by El Reg

See this Red Hat document for new support phase dates.

[nonamedotc]

Hopefully the clone (CentOS and Scientific Linux) will also be maintained for similar duration ......

i wonder why that long? are they just starting to realise Gnome3 is a flop

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but my guess is CentOS will follow and do there releases to 10 years also. but i HAVE my dubts that SL will follow also

[diamond_ramsey]

Originally Posted by detox

i wonder why that long? are they just starting to realise Gnome3 is a flop...

Not sure why seven years to ten years but effective immediately.

Hahaha, the evil GNome!!!

Went to YouTube and searched "the evil GNome" priceless.

Originally Posted by detox

...but my guess is CentOS will follow and do there releases to 10 years also. but i HAVE my dubts that SL will follow also

Concur with your guesses.

[Evil_Bert]

It's due to a combination of factors.

Both Ubuntu Server LTS and SUSE offer 5+ years main production support. Red Hat's main production support was 4 years and is now 5.5 years.

But, the main reason seems to be driven by the hardware and software stack investments of Red Hat's customers - they appear to want a longer-lived OS.

Originally Posted by Evil_Bert

It's due to a combination of factors.

Both Ubuntu Server LTS and SUSE offer 5+ years main production support. Red Hat's main production support was 4 years and is now 5.5 years.

But, the main reason seems to be driven by the hardware and software stack investments of Red Hat's customers - they appear to want a longer-lived OS .

customers dont like Gnome3 so they wanted an extension

whats this gonna do for RHEL7 . though my guess they'll stick to the same Model/release schedule

[Evil_Bert]

Originally Posted by detox

customers dont like Gnome3 so they wanted an extension

So you're saying that that's the primary reason behind this strategic move by Red Hat?

Originally Posted by Evil_Bert

So you're saying that that's the primary reason behind this strategic move by Red Hat?

why else? customers that use RHEL arent obviosly happy with Gnome3's form or a lack there of form and wanted a 10 year extended support of 5 and 6 .

[MorphingDragon]

Originally Posted by detox

i wonder why that long? are they just starting to realise Gnome3 is a

I have considered writing a Letter to the Fedora Project Leader and Jim Whitehurst asking for them to join Linux Mint and back cinnamon. In their interest of continuing a usable desktop workflow ensuring longevity for Fedora and RHEL.

Originally Posted by MorphingDragon

I have considered writing a Letter to the Fedora Project Leader and Jim Whitehurst asking for them to join Linux Mint and back cinnamon. In their interest of continuing a usable desktop workflow ensuring longevity for Fedora and RHEL.

Cinnamon isnt a complete finished either. so i cant see them agreeing to that

[jpollard]

Originally Posted by detox

Cinnamon isnt a complete finished either. so i cant see them agreeing to that

Gnome3 is still unusable.

Cinnamon appears usable, but with things still to do.

Mint is usable, but not worked on as much as the others.


So I don't see any reason why asking for more support would be wrong. Somebody has to reel in the out of control Gnome developers.

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by MorphingDragon

I have considered writing a Letter to the Fedora Project Leader and Jim Whitehurst asking for them to join Linux Mint and back cinnamon. In their interest of continuing a usable desktop workflow ensuring longevity for Fedora and RHEL.

I'm still uncertain about the longevity of cinnamon for Fedora.
I have managed to build it for f17 but it has some issues

https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/279

[MorphingDragon]

Originally Posted by leigh123linux

I'm still uncertain about the longevity of cinnamon for Fedora.
I have managed to build it for f17 but it has some issues

https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/279

Hence asking for the Fedora project and Red Hat to provide official support and backing for the Cinnamon project.
Red Hat has got themselves into the position where whatever they say goes; Novell is now a vegetable and Ubuntu in Professional Space is a bit of a dud.
Many developers are in a bit of a rut whether to keep on supporting Gnome/GTK apps or changing to KDE/QT. If Cinnamon was backed by a Major company with
Official backing, Developer Attention and money Cinnamon will get a lovely boost that it so desperately needs. Unity is a non-starter and Gnome3 won't be well taken in Enterprise space.

I thought I was on an English speaking forum. :P

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by MorphingDragon

Hence asking for the Fedora project and Red Hat to provide official support and backing for the Cinnamon project.
Red Hat has got themselves into the position where whatever they say goes; Novell is now a vegetable and Ubuntu in Professional Space is a bit of a dud.
Many developers are in a bit of a rut whether to keep on supporting Gnome/GTK apps or changing to KDE/QT. If Cinnamon was backed by a Major company with
Official backing, Developer Attention and money Cinnamon will get a lovely boost that it so desperately needs. Unity is a non-starter and Gnome3 won't be well taken in Enterprise space.

I thought I was on an English speaking forum. :P

I was hoping after I got it included in the repos that others would volunteer to help co-maintain it with me.
Cinnamon development is open, I even contributed some code to it.


https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamo...1ca9e7bf7bf180

[smr54]

Making my own wild guesses--loosely based on my own opinion and that of other friends who work with servers, there's a great deal of dislike amongst sysadmins about much of what Fedora is doing--not that it's bad, but that it's desktop oriented. As far as I know (and I don't know, so feel free to ignore this) much of RH's market is server based.

I would think (but again, this is only my opinion) that that would be more important to customers than the desktop. I also wonder if Ubuntu's server offerings are making them think about it--RH6 was the first one that I can recall in the last few server offerings that had minimal by default instead of Gnome desktop by default.

This is more like Ubuntu's server, which, by default, has no X installed.