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Old 18th November 2011, 09:34 AM
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F16 - Bumblebee

Hello,

I'd like to know if someone already has tried to "use" bumblebee under F16 and what the results are.
And also: where could I find some F16 documentation about that subject?

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Old 19th December 2011, 05:47 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

yes, i wait for some positive results, too.

but i think there are still issues like this one: github Bumblebee-Project

so is here maybe someone who can help us or maybe here are devs who are interested in this problem so they can help the bumblebee project? i really do not know why there are two projects (ironhide, bumblebee project), which does support ubuntu very well but not fedora...


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Old 2nd January 2012, 09:25 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

Hi, thibdb, tolga,

I am currently working on RPM packages for the new Bumblebee daemon and related software.

Also, I have been working on enabling acceleration with both drivers, Intel and nVidia, but I am still developing the best method of achieving that without creating too much fuss about the system (this can be a bit difficult since the binary nVidia drivers can be installed in more than one way).

Check the official Bumblebee page and the GitHub project page for updates (I expect to have a beta quality package release ready by the end of next week).

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Old 5th January 2012, 10:22 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

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Hi, thibdb, tolga,

I am currently working on RPM packages for the new Bumblebee daemon and related software.

Also, I have been working on enabling acceleration with both drivers, Intel and nVidia, but I am still developing the best method of achieving that without creating too much fuss about the system (this can be a bit difficult since the binary nVidia drivers can be installed in more than one way).

Check the official Bumblebee page and the GitHub project page for updates (I expect to have a beta quality package release ready by the end of next week).

Kind regards,
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Oooh, that would be so awesome!
I hate it when someone makes an awesome linux tweak, and the practically only makes it available to ubuntu...

I have installed bumblebee successfully, but cant get the power management working. So my nvidia card is draining power all the time, which kind of makes optimus pointless.

Really looking forward to ths
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Old 16th January 2012, 07:21 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

Hi All, any updates about fedora's rpms?
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Old 18th January 2012, 05:31 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

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Hi All, any updates about fedora's rpms?
Yep. Leaving for a two week vacation on Monday, so they will *have* to be ready by then. ;-)

In essence, the delay is due to some source code fixes I had to do to adapt for Fedora file layouts etc.

Sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused.

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Old 19th January 2012, 12:04 AM
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No problem man!
I need to excuse me, you are the developer!

Thanks for your hard work!! many many thanks you are doing this for us ...
You have paypal? No problem for me to pay you a beer
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Old 27th January 2012, 07:40 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

I managed to get Bumblebee installed on my laptop. power management using 'bbswitch' seems to work. However, i still have not installed 'virtualgl' yet, so could not test the actual Nvidia card yet.
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Old 28th January 2012, 11:12 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

Hi
I also installed Bumblebee recently. Can anyone help me on how I set the machine to start both the bbswitch module and Bumblebee daemon at start up time?
I am sorry for asking such basic questions.
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Old 28th January 2012, 02:25 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

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Hi
I also installed Bumblebee recently. Can anyone help me on how I set the machine to start both the bbswitch module and Bumblebee daemon at start up time?
I am sorry for asking such basic questions.
Thanks,
for bbswitch :

Try and go to location "/etc/modules-load.d". Create a file here called 'bbswitch.conf' with contents like this :

bbswitch load_state=0 unload_state=1

I don't remember how i did it, but from terminal, probably something like this should work :

Code:
sudo echo bbswitch load_state=0 unload_state=1 > /etc/modules-load.d/bbswitch.conf
for bumblebee :

When you download the install files (i don't really know what they are called), from here for bumblebee v3.0
Link :
HTML Code:
https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/downloads
and extract it to become a folder, there is a folder called '[bumblebee-installfiles]/script/systemd'. inside it is a file named 'bumblebeed.service'. Try to copy this file into the folder '/lib/systemd/system'. You may need admin rights to do this, so go to terminal, type 'sudo nautilus', copy-paste the file.

Next, this 'service script' (or whatever i am supposed to call it) need to be enabled. do the following in terminal.

Code:
sudo systemctl enable bumblebeed.service
restart your computer and try checking if they worked.

P.S : As a noob linux user, i cannot guarantee the above will work for you, or if they have bad side-effects.

---------- Post added at 10:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 PM ----------

My results :
Setup :
Notebook, Asus U41SV
Fedora 16 64 bit fresh install, updated
installed bumblebee v3.0 (from source), bbswitch (from source, using dkms), virtualgl 2.2.90 (from rpm), nouveau driver retained, did not use nvidia.
Power when idle : 12-13 W (Nvidia card turned off)

result without optirun
Code:
[user@computername ~]$ glxgears 
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.492 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.137 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.137 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.135 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.125 FPS
Power consumption : about 16 W (but i was also doing some browsing

result with optirun :
Code:
[user@computername ~]$ optirun glxgears 
1384 frames in 5.0 seconds = 276.661 FPS
1381 frames in 5.0 seconds = 276.119 FPS
1378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.389 FPS
1376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.078 FPS
1376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 274.988 FPS
Power consumption : about 34 W
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Old 28th January 2012, 03:29 PM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

for Intel IGP + Radeon graphiccard with PowerXpress feature is here a guide. How to make bumblebee work with this combo either with Radeon or with fglrx driver.

I have no idea, if this works on Fedora. My notebook has only one Radeon IGP.

Here is some news about tumbleweed for NVIDIA Optimus.
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Old 29th January 2012, 09:40 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

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for Intel IGP + Radeon graphiccard with PowerXpress feature is here a guide. How to make bumblebee work with this combo either with Radeon or with fglrx driver.

I have no idea, if this works on Fedora. My notebook has only one Radeon IGP.

Here is some news about tumbleweed for NVIDIA Optimus.

Is there a need for bumblebee with radeon card setups?

https://lists.launchpad.net/hybrid-g.../msg02095.html
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Old 29th January 2012, 10:53 AM
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Is there a need for bumblebee with radeon card setups?

https://lists.launchpad.net/hybrid-g.../msg02095.html
ah good it looks like for fglrx it isn't needed. Only if the open radeon driver is used.
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Old 29th January 2012, 12:24 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

Thanks ragib for your explanations. I did what you mentioned but apparently bbswitch is not loaded. The output of 'dmesg | grep bbswitch' says:
Code:
[   13.434394] modprobe[556]: WARNING: Module bbswitch load_state=0 unload_state=1 not found.
[   24.797989] bumblebeed[1095]: FATAL: Module bbswitch not found.
[   24.799784] bumblebeed[1095]: [ERROR]Module bbswitch could not be loaded (timeout?)
To the extent of my knowledge, it seems I have to copy the file bbswitch.ko generated by compiling the source files to somewhere known to the system. Do you know where it is?

---------- Post added at 01:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 AM ----------

I found a solution to my problem which might not be the most correct one although.
First I installed DKMS, then I created the directory /usr/src/bbswitch-0.4.1-3 and copied the following three files from the source folder of bbswitch there:
Code:
cp Makefile bbswitch.c dkms/dkms.conf /usr/src/bbswitch-0.4.1-3/
Then I ran the following commands:
Code:
dkms add -m bbswitch -v 0.4.1-3
dkms build -m bbswitch -v 0.4.1-3
dkms install -m bbswitch -v 0.4.1-3
Now I can add the module using modprobe and the solution suggested by ragib works.
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Old 29th January 2012, 04:00 AM
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Re: F16 - Bumblebee

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Now I can add the module using modprobe and the solution suggested by ragib works.
Yes, I had the same problem with the bbswitch, had to install it using dkms like you said. Had to look those up. I apologise if i was not clear enough.

References for those who need them :
DKMS install guide (for installing bbswitch) :
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Buildi...cff73f927731f0

Also had to study a bit about system start-up services, systemd.
manage systemd boot init :
https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorial...x-with-systemd

Can you post your results please?
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