Fedora 16 Alpha discussion thread

[AdamW]

Starting a new thread for Alpha discussion. Note that Alpha RC5 was blessed as Alpha, so if you have Alpha RC5, there's no point re-downloading Alpha, it's the same thing.

The 'announce' post is over in the News forum. Get Alpha here, and do remember to read the release notes and common bugs.

[Dan]

Well ... it fails to boot off of a USB drive here. No root device found.

[AdamW]

that's very non-specific.

what image? how did you write it to the usb stick?

[Dan]

Listing backwards, Fedora USB creator, and the live x86_64 image. Might be a bit too soon to condemn F16, though. F15, then F14 just failed on the same USB drive. Methinks the jump drive is toast.

[Dan]

*Sigh!*

Strike two. Both the PNY and the Toshiba failed. It's starting to look like this is going to cost me a CD.

[glennzo]

It's starting to look like this is going to cost me a CD

Want I should mail you a nickel Dan?

[smr54]

Where is the custom partitioning and not putting grub in boot at at this point? As far as I understood it, RC5 is not working unless one accepts one of the default layouts, and risks putting grub in the mbr, thereby requiring me to <gasp> see how to edit a grub2 menu. Some custom file out of the 40 or so in there, right? (Not a real question, when the time comes I'll look it up.)


All kidding aside, does the latest alpha install with custom partitioning? In other words, what I've always done in the past, when trying on hardware, is to put it in a partition, just making a / partition. As per other threads (here and mailing list) at this point, one gets a somewhat cryptic message (bug has been filed, message will probably be less cryptic) saying that one must create a small BIOS partition. Also, one can't just put grub in the first partition of the install at this time.

I'd like to be clear on whether that's changed or not. As it stood, what has worked for the last few years no longer does, and I haven't seen enough on it to know if that's still the case, or one of those gosh darn Just Me(TM) problems.

Thanks.

[dd_wizard]

It's running fine off a live USB here. I even went to the trouble of downloading the latest evolution, evolution-NetworkManager, and evolution-data-server so I could get the updates to gnome-[menu, panel, shell], nautilus-sendto, control-center, and folks. That was a total waste of energy!

Packages Altered:
    Updated control-center-1:3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64            @fedora
    Update                 1:3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64            ?
    Updated control-center-filesystem-1:3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 @fedora
    Update                            1:3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 ?
    Updated evolution-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64                   @fedora
    Update            3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64                   ?
    Updated evolution-NetworkManager-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64    @fedora
    Update                           3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64    ?
    Updated evolution-data-server-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64       @fedora
    Update                        3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64       ?
    Updated folks-1:0.6.0-2.fc16.x86_64                     @updates-testing
    Update        1:0.6.0-4.fc16.x86_64                     ?
    Updated gnome-menus-3.0.1-1.fc16.x86_64                 @fedora
    Update              3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64                 @?updates-testing
    Updated gnome-panel-3.0.2-3.fc16.x86_64                 @fedora
    Update              3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64                 @?updates-testing
    Updated gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.x86_64            @fedora
    Update                   3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64            @?updates-testing
    Updated gnome-shell-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64                 @fedora
    Update              3.1.4-2.gite7b9933.fc16.x86_64      @?updates-testing
    Updated nautilus-sendto-1:3.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64           @fedora
    Update                  1:3.0.0-9.fc16.x86_64           ?

This version of gnome-shell crashes so often, it's pretty useless. Still no luck getting it on a hard drive, but I haven't given up yet.

dd_wizard

[glennzo]

'nuff said. I downloaded and am burning a disk as we speak (in mid process) but I think it will just be a coaster. If I still can't install to an existing partition I'm not going to bother.

[smr54]

Well, let us know--inquiring minds anxiously await.

[ah7013]

Currently downloading the 32-bit GNOME Live CD to try on my old laptop. I don't currently have a USB drive on me so I am going to have to burn a CD.

---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 PM ----------

Originally Posted by ah7013

Currently downloading the 32-bit GNOME Live CD to try on my old laptop. I don't currently have a USB drive on me so I am going to have to burn a CD.

Well it booted OK but because of the age of the hardware (Compaq Evo N800v) GNOME shell failed to load . However fallback mode works fine.

---------- Post added at 01:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 PM ----------

Now downloading the KDE Live CD to test that one out as well.

[Adrian719]

I tried to install Fedora16 Alpha a few times today, all were unsuccessful.
It would install fine, but then I would log in, and I would get a message saying: "A problem has occured, and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again".

First time I installed with:

yum install fedora-release-rawhide

yum --disablerepo=16 --enablerepo=rawhide update

That gave me the error, the first time.

So I tried:

yum update yum
yum clean all
yum --releasever=16 --disableplugin=presto distrosync --nogpgcheck

Error again.

So then for the last and final time, I tried installing from a LiveUSB (changed all isolinux to syslinux).
Same thing

So I gave up, and am now back to F15 lol.

this Nightly crashed Fedora-16-Nightly-20110823.21-i686-Live-desktop.iso, when it tried to load the shell thats when it crashed, it gave me a ( ohh no something has gone wrong and cannot recover ) i thought it was a selinux problem as the first attempt at booting into it it did give me a AVC denial, ( of what i dont know - as selinux wouldnt load to tell me the exact error. then i rebooted and loaded again with the same thing as i said, the ( ohh no something has gone wrong and cannot recover )

[Dan]

dracut Warning: No root device 'live:/dev/disk/by-uuid/EA73-A471" found

Dropping to debug shell.

sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
dracut:/#

Not much I can do with that. Sadly, for me, F16 Alpha=fail.

[pkands]

"A problem has occured, and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again".

This is what I get with my laptop and desktop PC with the LIVE CD version.
This occurs when trying to load the desktop ( I think).