F14 Alpha: Laughably terrible

bendib · #1 22nd September 2010, 03:25 AM

I have recently tried the Fedora 14 alpha, and I laughed so hard I nearly cried.
First, when I booted the thing, it gave me TWO welcome messages. One reporting the version, and one with the classic "welcome to fedora" message. Next, an eight of the start up sequence, the first bit, gives the good old green classic "OK" when services are started. The other portion uses uneven greyscale Oks that often do not even show up on the same line as the service they start.
Next, I noticed the wallpaper was unchanged from Fedora 13 final/rc. After logging in, I attempted to launch the wallpaper changer, "appearances". Right clicking on the desktop and selecting "change background" does nothing, and additionally the appearances item is missing in system > preferences.
I then looked in /usr/share/backgrounds for additional wallpapers, but upon hovering over the "goddard" directory, nautilus as a whole hung. Disconnecting the power cord, I noticed the power icon changed to something completely different from the battery and cord one I saw earlier (that I liked). Shutting down, I noticed three cheap "failed" messages relating to services. I should also mention I was unable to get this release to run in VirtualBox, so I had to put the files on my data partition and add the extlinux bootloader to it, which I then chainloaded in Plop boot manager to get things going.

My message to any fedora developers: Don't give us another fedora 12. We would rather wait a few more days for the final release than have a release made by Elmo. I have never seen an alpha of ANYTHING that was this terrible. Most people know my minimalist linux distro, pipsqueak, is so buggy it has maggots, but I am glad to say that pipsqueak really beats the crap out of this release.

#2 22nd September 2010, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bendib

I have recently tried the Fedora 14 alpha, and I laughed so hard I nearly cried.
First, when I booted the thing, it gave me TWO welcome messages. One reporting the version, and one with the classic "welcome to fedora" message. Next, an eight of the start up sequence, the first bit, gives the good old green classic "OK" when services are started. The other portion uses uneven greyscale Oks that often do not even show up on the same line as the service they start.
Next, I noticed the wallpaper was unchanged from Fedora 13 final/rc. After logging in, I attempted to launch the wallpaper changer, "appearances". Right clicking on the desktop and selecting "change background" does nothing, and additionally the appearances item is missing in system > preferences.
I then looked in /usr/share/backgrounds for additional wallpapers, but upon hovering over the "goddard" directory, nautilus as a whole hung. Disconnecting the power cord, I noticed the power icon changed to something completely different from the battery and cord one I saw earlier (that I liked). Shutting down, I noticed three cheap "failed" messages relating to services. I should also mention I was unable to get this release to run in VirtualBox, so I had to put the files on my data partition and add the extlinux bootloader to it, which I then chainloaded in Plop boot manager to get things going.

My message to any fedora developers: Don't give us another fedora 12. We would rather wait a few more days for the final release than have a release made by Elmo. I have never seen an alpha of ANYTHING that was this terrible. Most people know my minimalist linux distro, pipsqueak, is so buggy it has maggots, but I am glad to say that pipsqueak really beats the crap out of this release.

the developers dont look at the threads, if you have a complaint click on FedoraProject then to communicate with Fedora have you tried the RC3 of F14 Beta? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...3&postcount=29

bendib · #3 22nd September 2010, 03:47 AM

I did not intend to really get the attention of developers, I just intended on sharing my thoughts on the alpha. Thanks though. I will try the real beta when it is complete. Thanks.

#4 22nd September 2010, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bendib

I did not intend to really get the attention of developers, I just intended on sharing my thoughts on the alpha. Thanks though. I will try the real beta when it is complete. Thanks.

you should find the Beta much better than the Alpha

forkbomb · #5 22nd September 2010, 05:09 AM

Dude... it's an alpha.

hephasteus · #6 22nd September 2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by forkbomb

Dude... it's an alpha.

This lol. Ya they should test their alphas so they work better before releasing them.

bendib · #7 22nd September 2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hephasteus

This lol. Ya they should test their alphas so they work better before releasing them.

I agree. It's one thing to put out a testing release that people can use to see how things go, it's another for it to be completely crippled and for the most part unusable.

forkbomb · #8 22nd September 2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bendib

I agree. It's one thing to put out a testing release that people can use to see how things go, it's another for it to be completely crippled and for the most part unusable.

psst... I think hephasteus was being sarcastic.

Unless I saw sarcasm where there wasn't any. And I don't even have 6 AM as an excuse.

SlowJet · #9 22nd September 2010, 08:29 AM

I think the main issue was a feature incomplete (systemd) and maybe python -2.7 issues.
systemd was backed out until f15.

The beta-rc3 works great. Barely2 days old.

SJ

#10 22nd September 2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowJet

I think the main issue was a feature incomplete (systemd) and maybe python -2.7 issues.
systemd was backed out until f15.

The beta-rc3 works great. Barely2 days old.

SJ

it works for me but i still couldnt use Desktop-effects in it with the opensource 3D driver

Boricua · #11 22nd September 2010, 09:52 AM

For me, Fedora 14 Alpha has been remarkably stable, even more so than several Fedora Betas from the past.

stoat · #12 22nd September 2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hephasteus

Ya they should test their alphas so they work better before releasing them.

I thought that's what we were supposed to do with them. Or else, why release them at all?

P.S.: Sorry, hephasteus. That's what you meant. I missed it the first time around. Nothing is funny to me at six a.m.

hephasteus · #13 23rd September 2010, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stoat

I thought that's what we were supposed to do with them. Or else, why release them at all?

P.S.: Sorry, hephasteus. That's what you meant. I missed it the first time around. Nothing is funny to me at six a.m.

No worries. Should have /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by beaker_

Hahaha... there must be a full or new moon somewhere?

Full moon. New moon is Oct 7th and it's going to hurt. Really bad.

starstatras · #14 22nd September 2010, 11:32 AM

That actually sounds fairly complete for an alpha release (in my experience)
Bendib whats your problem with it?
You sure you've ever tried alpha releases before?

droidhacker · #15 22nd September 2010, 03:10 PM

I've always found EVEN numbered releases to REALLY SUCK. Never had a problem with an odd.