was using fedora 12 beta, repo changed to fedora 13 rawhide

th350urc3 · #1 16th November 2009, 05:36 PM

I was using Fedora 12 Beta and everything was fine. I thought that I would get switched over to the official fedora 12 repo tomorrow, but it seems that I've been moved to fedora 13 rawhide. Any ideas? Do I have to re-install my fedora ?

]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 13 (Rawhide)

I'd like to keep using fedora 12.

helloworld1 · #2 16th November 2009, 07:46 PM

You may have changed the repo by hand. You can go to /etc/yum.repo.d/ and see if there is some rpmnew files and change it back.
Also you may need to reinstall fedora-release.

imploder · #3 16th November 2009, 08:52 PM

The same happened to mine. I disabled the rawhide repository right after installation of Fedora 12 beta (I knew I have to disable it, the first installation I didn't knew and "accidentally" upgraded to Fedora 13 rawhide too).

Now, even though the rawhide is disabled (I haven't enabled any time), the updater still wants to install F13 packages!!!

A screenshot that shows this:

One has to ask:
1) What idiot decided that the default settings should change the system into the unstable 13 'rawhide' after update?
2) How is this possible? It behaves like malware - breaking the system against the user's will.

helloworld1 · #4 16th November 2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imploder

The same happened to mine. I disabled the rawhide repository right after installation of Fedora 12 beta (I knew I have to disable it, the first installation I didn't knew and "accidentally" upgraded to Fedora 13 rawhide too).

Now, even though the rawhide is disabled (I haven't enabled any time), the updater still wants to install F13 packages!!!

A screenshot that shows this:

One has to ask:
1) What idiot decided that the default settings should change the system into the unstable 13 'rawhide' after update?
2) How is this possible? It behaves like malware - breaking the system against the user's will.

F12 final will come in 1 day. You should wait for it. I am using RC and it is fine.

BrandonD · #5 16th November 2009, 09:49 PM

Well I certainly don't agree with imploder's comment. I am in the same situation but I am sure it was my fault.

So, how do I fix this?

I am new to Fedora and yum. I tried disabling the rawhide and testing repos by editing the .repo files but that didn't work. I'd rather not tinker around and cause myself to have to do a reinstall so that's why I'll just ask.

Here are my enabled repos

Code:

yum repolist
Loaded plugins: presto, protectbase, refresh-packagekit
repo id                                                                                     repo name                                                                                                 status
GoOo                                                                                        GoOo                                                                                                      enabled:  2,376
development                                                                                 Fedora - Development                                                                                      enabled: 19,323
fedora                                                                                      Fedora 13 - x86_64                                                                                        enabled: 19,342
flash                                                                                       flash                                                                                                     enabled:      1
rpmfusion-free-rawhide                                                                      RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free                                                                      enabled:    432
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide                                                                   RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree                                                                   enabled:    139
updates

imploder · #6 16th November 2009, 10:44 PM

Here is mine:

Code:

[petr@teltak ~]$ yum repolist
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
repo id                                                             repo name                                                                                 status
fedora                                                              Fedora 11.92 - i386                                                                       enabled: 15,545
rpmfusion-free                                                      RPM Fusion for Fedora 11.92 - Free                                                        enabled:    383
rpmfusion-free-updates                                              RPM Fusion for Fedora 11.92 - Free - Updates                                              enabled:    383
rpmfusion-nonfree                                                   RPM Fusion for Fedora 11.92 - Nonfree                                                     enabled:    124
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates                                           RPM Fusion for Fedora 11.92 - Nonfree - Updates                                           enabled:    124
updates                                                             Fedora 11.92 - i386 - Updates                                                             enabled: 15,546
repolist: 32,105

Nothing called 'rawhide'. I also checked all the rawhide repositories in /etc/yum/repos.d and all have enabled=0. Yet still the updater wants to install rawhide packages.

I don't think it's my fault, since I haven't done anything wrong -- I disabled the rawhide repos and kept them disabled. Rawhide being enabled by default is something I really don't understand -- if I install Fedora 12 beta I want to have Fedora 12 beta and upgrade to final when Fedora 12 final is released. Instead, F13 rawhide is installed by default if I run system update after the installation (the installer recommends to do this). This is wrong. It is broken and it is not my fault.

It may be that this chaos is caused by Fedora 12 going to be released. So I'll wait and see if it gets right.

RahulSundaram · #7 16th November 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

I don't think it's my fault, since I haven't done anything wrong -- I disabled the rawhide repos and kept them disabled. Rawhide being enabled by default is something I really don't understand -- if I install Fedora 12 beta I want to have Fedora 12 beta and upgrade to final when Fedora 12 final is released. Instead, F13 rawhide is installed by default if I run system update after the installation (the installer recommends to do this). This is wrong. It is broken and it is not my fault.

It may be that this chaos is caused by Fedora 12 going to be released. So I'll wait and see if it gets right.

It seems you didn't update for a long time in between. For the repo switch over to work well, you need to continuously update on a regular basis. The details are here

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrad...lease_to_final

Now to fix this,

get fedora-release-rpm and fedora-release-notes package from any mirror, say

http://fedora.zero42.at/linux/releases/12/Everything/

and run rpm -Uvh on both of them.

Check yum repolist. It should fix your problem

RahulSundaram · #8 16th November 2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonD

Well I certainly don't agree with imploder's comment. I am in the same situation but I am sure it was my fault.

So, how do I fix this?

I am new to Fedora and yum. I tried disabling the rawhide and testing repos by editing the .repo files but that didn't work. I'd rather not tinker around and cause myself to have to do a reinstall so that's why I'll just ask.

Edit the fedora*.repo files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ and change fedora-rawhide.repo to "enabled=0" everywhere. Change fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo to have "enabled=1" in the first instances. Hope that helps

typerlc · #9 16th November 2009, 10:51 PM

I don't believe it will right itself. You can try the following:

yum clean all
yum update

The clean will remove all the cached metadata, and so it will then download this again from the sources mentioned in the repo file.

This is a known problem that Fedora don't think is a problem. There is a small window of opportunity for you to migrate from beta to release ... if you don't do a yum update during that window, then you get moved on to the next rawhide version. I'm guessing that window has already passed.

It happened to me last time, going from FC11 rawhide, to FC12 rawhide. Because I was away from my desktop during this update period, I missed the boat and got stuck on the roller-coaster that has been FC12 rawhide.

I suggest you get in contact with Rahul ... he seems to know about this stuff. He might be able to give you a practical solution.

imploder · #10 17th November 2009, 01:32 PM

Thanks for help. Rahul, your advice to download the fedora-release and fedora-release-notes from http://fedora.zero42.at/linux/releases/12/Everything/ fixed the problem with the rawhide (Fedora 13) repository being mysteriously "enabled". Here is what I did:

Code:

[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ ls
fedora-release-notes-12.0.0-4.fc12.noarch.rpm  fedora-release-12-1.noarch.rpm
[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ su -c 'rpm -Uvh fedora-release-12-1.noarch.rpm'
Heslo: 
Připravuji...              ########################################### [100%]
   1:fedora-release         varování: /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo vytvořen jako /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo.rpmnew
varování: /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo vytvořen jako /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew
varování: /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo vytvořen jako /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo.rpmnew
########################################### [100%]
[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ su -c 'rpm -Uvh fedora-release-notes-12.0.0-4.fc12.noarch.rpm'
Heslo: 
Připravuji...              ########################################### [100%]
   1:fedora-release-notes   ########################################### [100%]
[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ yum clean all
Zavedeny zásuvné moduly:presto, refresh-packagekit
Čistí se vše
[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ yum repolist
Zavedeny zásuvné moduly:presto, refresh-packagekit
fedora/metalink                                                           |  23 kB     00:00     
fedora                                                                    | 4.2 kB     00:00     
fedora/primary_db                                                         | 9.7 MB     00:07     
rpmfusion-free                                                            | 3.8 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free/primary_db                                                 | 297 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free-updates                                                    | 3.8 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-free-updates/primary_db                                         | 2.0 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-nonfree                                                         | 3.3 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-nonfree/primary_db                                              |  87 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates                                                 | 3.8 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/primary_db                                      | 1.1 kB     00:00     
updates/metalink                                                          |  13 kB     00:00     
updates                                                                   | 4.4 kB     00:00     
updates/primary_db                                                        | 220 kB     00:00     
repo id                        jméno repa                                        status
fedora                         Fedora 12 - i386                                  povoleno: 15*366
rpmfusion-free                 RPM Fusion for Fedora 12 - Free                   povoleno:    383
rpmfusion-free-updates         RPM Fusion for Fedora 12 - Free - Updates         povoleno:      1
rpmfusion-nonfree              RPM Fusion for Fedora 12 - Nonfree                povoleno:    124
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates      RPM Fusion for Fedora 12 - Nonfree - Updates      povoleno:      0
updates                        Fedora 12 - i386 - Updates                        povoleno:    326
repolist: 16*200

Now every package in Software Update that has Fedora version specified has fc12 in its name - it looks like it should be OK to update the system now.

I ran the update, but it failed, giving this message:

The system still does not have 12 final as its version, is this right? (i.e. does this mean that the fedora-release and fedora-release-notes packages did not do everything right?)

Code:

[petr@teltak fedora-release-12]$ uname -a
Linux teltak 2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Sep 29 16:16:16 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Quote:

Originally Posted by typerlc

yum clean all
yum update

Man I almost moved to fedora 13 rawhide again by this! Thanks to an unresolved dependency, the update was aborted. (I thought "update" after "clean all" meant something like updating the package information; in fact it tries to install them all)

#11 16th November 2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th350urc3

I was using Fedora 12 Beta and everything was fine. I thought that I would get switched over to the official fedora 12 repo tomorrow, but it seems that I've been moved to fedora 13 rawhide. Any ideas? Do I have to re-install my fedora ?

]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 13 (Rawhide)

I'd like to keep using fedora 12.

KEEP YOUR SYSTEM UP TO DATE DAILY. you wont have that problem, now your gonna have to download the Final tomorrow an format the rawhide install.

scottro · #12 16th November 2009, 11:03 PM

I've been updating my netbook every couple of days, and my workstation at work almost daily--around last Wednesday, it seems (just judging from a ls -l on /etc/yum.repos.d) rawhide disabled itself and fedora enabled itself. So, either I'm just lucky because of my pureness of heart, or this experience, of rawhide continuing to update rather than changing over is an oddity that hasn't happened much.

There's probably some logical difference that we're missing, but in my case, I've simply been doing yum update.

dd_wizard · #13 16th November 2009, 11:16 PM

BrandonD, you may want to install the RPM Fusion repos manually from their website. I'm not sure how you missed them, but I got these two packages a few days ago:

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/...e-release.html

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfr...e-release.html

Just click on the link in the package section of both pages and click install. When yum hit those two updates, my repos were updated.

Hope that helps,
dd_wizard

typerlc · #14 16th November 2009, 11:10 PM

That's right, but you have to do the yum update at the right time. If you don't do it for a week, you can miss the change-over window.

Further, if you've done any mods to the repo files than yum won't overwrite the files, instead it stores the new ones as <repo>.rpmnew. The warning it gives is like:

warning: /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free-updates.repo created as /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free-updates.repo.rpmnew

but this is during the "Updating" phase of the yum transaction, and is easily missed if it scrolls off the screen with hundreds of other updates.

Personally, I think this approach is just asking for trouble, but I guess there's not sufficient people impacted to make Fedora change this. It would be far less confusing to require people that want to stay on rawhide to have to make that decision themselves, rather than the current default of convert to release version, unless you forget or have made changes to the repo files.

BrandonD · #15 16th November 2009, 11:19 PM

yeah, I've been updating daily too.

I've read in some other threads that if you don't touch the repos, they will automatically switch off from rawhide when the time is necessary. I thought this meant no major changes, all I did was added an exclude for openoffice.org to the repos and now I am where I am.

If I change me repo files to what they are supposed to be (for F12), can I upgrade/downgrade my packages?