Friggin' *********

Iron_Mike · #1 2nd June 2007, 06:09 AM

I don't know what the frik is going on but this release is the biggest POS I've encountered since FC4 using my laptop.which I heavily rely upon. Up until now Fedora has worked without too many issues barring video, wireless. But this is the first time the LiveCD and the DVD iso's showed the same symptoms locking up the computer. I've kinda tracked it to Network Manager, if NM is enabled it will hang during boot sequence whether the ethernet is pluged in or not. Awwww Fu*ck it I'm too pissed off....to elaborate........

***Firewing1*** · #2 2nd June 2007, 06:23 AM

Why not just install, boot into single and disable NM?
Firewing1

***Dan*** · #3 2nd June 2007, 06:27 AM

Damn, Mike!

That's almost enough to make me feel guilty about how smooth my install went! <..

..>

Dan

sailor · #4 2nd June 2007, 06:34 AM

Yeah...I had a pretty smooth install as well...just got done as a matter of fact.
Nvidia is working fine, multimedia is working...
The only thing that I noticed was during the beginning of the install the puter locked up twice...once as I booted the install dvd and once when I tried to pick additional repositories.... I tried a third time...and no problems....

***bob*** · #5 2nd June 2007, 12:20 PM

I'd get the errors written out and head over to bugzilla and start posting them. Somebody may already have a fix for similar problems, but this stuff has to be brought to the developers' attention.

Iron_Mike · #6 3rd June 2007, 12:50 AM

Now, that I've chilled out some, had to reinstall FC6, I'm trying to track it down but it seems that it's Network Manager related. With NM enabled and a reboot takes place, right before the login screen it will hang and start spewing all kinds of stuff, if the ethernet is plugged in I have to remove it for it to boot, if the cable is unplugged during boot, I have to plug it in to get it to boot. If I disable NM services it boots fine. 2 different LiveCD installs and 1 dvd iso install, same thing. It might be the init scripts as I was seeing some ipw2200 firmware errors during some of the boots......

***bob*** · #7 3rd June 2007, 01:20 AM

Thanks for doing the detective work, Mike. Hope you can track it down and get a fix in place to give Fedora7 a second try. I'm very happy with it so far, but fortunately my equipment is pretty generic and I seldom have that kind of problem.

JN4OldSchool · #8 3rd June 2007, 01:22 AM

Know the feeling Mike. Damn all dayer...I had the stupid nv problem...FIREWIIIIINNNGGGG...when are we ever gonna get that crap fixed? But once Dan gave me the command to run the installer off the CLI on the live CD all was good. Installed then swapped my old xorg for the F7 one, inserted vesa and booted right up. Got the Livna driver and all was good. DL'd XFCE and booted into that from Gnome and I was almost home. Spent the next few hours DLing all my appd and getting the desktop back to how I like it. Then I installed Beryl.............

Damn Beryl ate my wallpaper! And I couldnt switch WMs to get it back. I even uninstalled Beryl. I uninstalled and reinstalled XFCE. Still the same. I cleaned out my /home files. Still the same. OK, piss on this! I created a new bloody user. STILL THE SAME! ARRRGGGHHHH. So now I took everything completely out and am going to start from scratch and now my sat connection has gone south. I'm callin it a day. At least I got Gnome...

***Dan*** · #9 3rd June 2007, 01:33 AM

Mike ... you're making me nervous!

My new laptop has the ipw2200 in it. Did this show up on initial boot, or just in re-boot after install?

Dan

Iron_Mike · #10 3rd June 2007, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TangledWeb

Mike ... you're making me nervous!

My new laptop has the ipw2200 in it. Did this show up on initial boot, or just in re-boot after install?

Dan

Howdy Dan,

It showed up right after the initial install. The wireless works fine There is a ticket open in bugzilla already mentioning he has an RealTek 8169 ethernet chipset which happens to be the exact same chipset I'm using so I added some comments to his ticket

Seve · #11 3rd June 2007, 01:39 AM

Hello JN4:

Join the club pal

Had more than my fair share of issues with F7 to date...
Me and beryl, nividia and SLI are not getting along at all.

You may want to [if you have not already done so] remove or rename your ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-session/%gconf.xml file
I had to do this to get some window borders back after my spin with kmod !$!#$!# ... it worked here, however your results may be different

I'd go into my multiple nic networking issues, but that would just make Iron_Mike feel better

Seve

Iron_Mike · #12 3rd June 2007, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seve

Hello JN4:

Join the club pal

Had more than my fair share of issues with F7 to date...
Me and beryl, nividia and SLI are not getting along at all.

You may want to [if you have not already done so] remove or rename your ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-session/%gconf.xml file
I had to do this to get some window borders back after my spin with kmod !$!#$!# ... it worked here, however your results may be different

I'd go into my multiple nic networking issues, but that would just make Iron_Mike feel better

Seve

Well it all started here using a gnome LiveCD. First I ran the image from the CD loaded up fine and selected install to HD was fine up to the point configuring the timezone, it couldn't find the tzdata module and had to abort, tried again and bomb at the same place, rebooted again but this time had it load the image to ram and started the install again, installed with no issues about the timezone, go figure. Rebooted to the fresh install and started noticing screwy things with Network Manager how sometimes with the cable unplugged it was showing it was connected. Looked at the services and noticed they had the NM service running but not the NM Dispatcher service when all other releases required both to be running, so I enabled it, of course it didn't fix anything. After a few reboots, it started hanging during the boot right before the login, if I had a cable plugged in I had to remove it, if I didn't have a cable plugged in I had to plug it in to get it boot.
Downloaded another LiveCD and the exact same issues. Mounted the dvd iso on a partition and ran it and still NM is hosed. Even tried the KDE LiveCD and it tanked also. OK, enough of this crap, started loading Etch, installed fine, but NM on there was screwing up by not seeing the wireless or sometimes the ethernet. It just so happens that F7 and Etch are using version 6.5 of Network Manager.........hmmmmmm. Put FC6 on and it works perfect, it uses version 6.4 of Network Manager.....