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Old 20th May 2007, 12:58 AM
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Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

EDIT: Added January 5, 2012


Howto for F16 & F19 (there is no catalyst driver from rpmfusion repository for F20 and higher)


Click this link to make sure your card is supported by this driver (All ATI cards below the HD series are unsupported, in F17 all HD4xxx and below are unsupported)





0. Clean: IF you previously installed this driver using the binary package provided by AMD-ATI, you must un-install it, then repair Mesa:
Code:
su
yum reinstall mesa-libGL
1. Update kernel

Code:
su
yum update kernel
reboot to the new kernel


2. Install driver

install the rpmfusion driver

Using akmod: This is the best option in my opinion as you don't get any problems when a new kernel is released.
Code:
su
yum --nogpgcheck install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
Or using kmod (which saves a bit of disk space but will have problems with every kernel update.)

Code:
su
yum --nogpgcheck install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install kmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
For PAE kernels


Code:
su
yum --nogpgcheck install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install kmod-catalyst-PAE xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-catalyst
Or (akmod builds the required kmod on bootup)

3. Make sure radeon is removed from initramfs


Code:
su
mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-radeon.img
dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)
4. Reboot











Quote:
Originally Posted by deprecated old content
Howto for F16


I haven't bothered to do a F16 guide as the catalyst driver is complete garbage.
Do yourself a favour and use the open source Radeon driver, if this isn't good enough BUY A NVIDIA CARD INSTEAD.

Last edited by leigh123linux; 5th January 2014 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Content added.
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Old 20th May 2007, 10:03 AM
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Howto for F15 (Please note that gnome-shell doesn't work with fglrx)



Click this link to make sure your card is supported by this driver ( All ATI cards below the HD series are unsupported )





0. Clean: IF you previously installed this driver using the binary package provided by AMD-ATI, you must un-install it, then repair Mesa:
Code:
su
yum reinstall mesa-libGL




1. Update kernel


Code:
su
yum update kernel
reboot to the new kernel


2. Install driver

install the F15 rpmfusion driver

Using akmod: This is the best option in my opinion as you don't get any problems when a new kernel is released.

Code:
su
rpm -Uvh   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm     http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst  xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
Or using kmod (which saves a bit of disk space but will have problems with every kernel update.)

Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm     http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install kmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
For PAE kernels


Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm     http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install kmod-catalyst-PAE xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686  xorg-x11-drv-catalyst
Or (akmod builds the required kmod on bootup )


3. Reboot






.

Last edited by leigh123linux; 3rd November 2010 at 09:32 AM. Reason: .
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Old 21st May 2007, 09:25 PM
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Howto for F14


Click this link to make sure your card is supported by this driver ( All ATI cards below the HD series are unsupported )





0. Clean: IF you previously installed this driver using the binary package provided by AMD-ATI, you must un-install it, then repair Mesa:
Code:
su
yum reinstall mesa-libGL




1. Update kernel


Code:
su
yum update kernel
reboot to the new kernel


2. Install driver

install the F14 rpmfusion driver

Using akmod: This is the best option in my opinion as you don't get any problems when a new kernel is released.

Code:
su
rpm -Uvh    http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm       http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum  install   akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst    xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
Or using kmod (which saves a bit of disk space but will have problems with every kernel update.)

Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm     http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install kmod-catalyst  xorg-x11-drv-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686
For PAE kernels


Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm     http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
yum install  kmod-catalyst-PAE xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-libs.i686   xorg-x11-drv-catalyst
Or (akmod builds the required kmod on bootup )


3. Reboot





.

Last edited by leigh123linux; 3rd November 2010 at 09:31 AM. Reason: .
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Old 19th June 2010, 09:55 AM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion

I tried to setup my ATI card (ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200]) on Fedora 11(2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE). But I got a black screen when the login screen was going to display.

I switched to console, and tried to start X manually, but still failed. I got the follow errors:
===============================================

X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 i686
Current Operating System: Linux fedora.t60p 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 07:05:37 UTC 2010 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=a0cfec2d-f9b8-44d8-baf6-df41d259397a rhgb quiet nopat
Build Date: 09 September 2009 11:25:24AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.4-0.1.fc11
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 19 16:37:45 2010
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
(**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
(==) No monitor specified for screen "Screen0".
Using a default monitor configuration.
(**) Option "AIGLX" "on"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(II) Loader magic: 0xa40
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:71c4:17aa:2007 ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xee100000/65536, I/O @ 0x00002000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.73.3
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
(II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.73.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.73.3
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.732
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: May 4 2010 21:16:00
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(EE) No supported AMD display adapters were found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
===========================
I checked that I had /etc/ati/amdpcsdb.default, not /etc/ati/amdpcsdb

Can anybody help me?
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Old 5th June 2007, 06:35 PM
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wget http://ftp.cica.es/fedora/linux/cor...-6.fc7.i386.rpm

gives 404 Not found


(sorry for the edits--replacing the xorg package did work)

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Old 5th June 2007, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andar
Sorry I forget to use code tags so copy & paste didn't work .
I have now corrected this now.
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Old 6th June 2007, 06:23 PM
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not quite there

Using Fedora 7 and the xorg-xserver from FC6 and this guide I was able to install beryl and xgl. Everything as far as installation went ok except for when I actually log into an Xgl/beryl/compiz session. It seems that my desktop does not refresh. I can move the windows around, rotate the cube but all actions such as right mouse clicks, text entered into a terminal (or anywhere else for that matter) does not appear. Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on? I have no errors in any logs. I am begging to think that my xorg.conf might be at fault. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 6th June 2007, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusp
Using Fedora 7 and the xorg-xserver from FC6 and this guide I was able to install beryl and xgl. Everything as far as installation went ok except for when I actually log into an Xgl/beryl/compiz session. It seems that my desktop does not refresh. I can move the windows around, rotate the cube but all actions such as right mouse clicks, text entered into a terminal (or anywhere else for that matter) does not appear. Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on? I have no errors in any logs. I am begging to think that my xorg.conf might be at fault. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Try this

Quote:
# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AIGLX" "off"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "auto"
ModelName "auto"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection


Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "UseFastTLS" "0"
Option "BlockSignalsOnLock" "on"
Option "ForceGenericCPU" "off"
Option "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "False"
EndSection
If this fails try deleting .beryl

Quote:
su
rm -rf /home/*/.beryl
Change the * to your username

Which driver did you use ? ( freshrpms or the driver I compiled from the Livna source )
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Old 10th July 2007, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leigh123@linux
Please note that you will need to reverse the edit to yum.conf after the ATI driver problem is fixed ( in about a months time ) to be able to update xorg-x11-server-Xorg
does anybody know if this is ready yet or should I still wait? I just repeated this process for the 4th time now since I got my notebook 5 weeks ago, so I certainly don't want to have to do it again. (I've had some issues with wireless and suspend... I re-imaged this time hoping to get a clean ati fglrx install so suspend will resume.) jlc has my same model E1505, and he's been helping me.
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Old 20th July 2007, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leigh123@linux
To build the new ati driver

Code:
su -
mkdir /root/ati
cd /root/ati
yum install kernel-devel compat-libstdc++-33
yum groupinstall "Development Tools"
wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.39.4-x86.x86_64.run
sh ati-driver-installer-8.39.4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Fedora/F7
rpm -ivh *.rpm
There's a problem @

Code:
rpm -ivh *.rpm
Code:
error: Failed dependencies: /usr/include/GL is needed by ATI-fglrx-devel-8.39.4-1.f7.i386
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Old 20th July 2007, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottONanski
There's a problem @

Code:
rpm -ivh *.rpm
Code:
error: Failed dependencies: /usr/include/GL is needed by ATI-fglrx-devel-8.39.4-1.f7.i386
try


yum install xorg-x11-proto-devel


you don't really need this package as it is for development " ATI-fglrx-devel-8.39.4-1.f7.i386 "

Last edited by leigh123linux; 20th July 2007 at 11:49 AM.
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Old 16th August 2007, 05:03 PM
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I try install Beryl, but ins't work fine yet, when run this command, i get a Composite error, i think i don't need this?

$ beryl-xgl --use-copy
************************************************** ************
* Beryl system compatiblity check *
************************************************** ************

Detected xserver : AIGLX

Checking Display :0.0 ...

Checking for XComposite extension : failed

No composite extension
beryl-xgl: No composite extension
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Old 14th September 2007, 11:19 AM
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When trying to install fglrx, I got this error the first time when trying to install ati-x11-drv.

[root@localhost ~]# yum update yum-protectbase
Loading "protectbase" plugin
Config Error: File contains no section headers.
file: file://///etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo, line: 2
'protect=yes\n'

The only repo file with section headers is freshrpms.repo, all others have no headers.
I am linux newbie.
Besides auto updates for F7, this is the first install for this distro.
I am running--
AMD Athlon64 3000+
1024meg dual channel
MSI K8N neo4
ATI X1600 PCIe w/512
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Old 14th September 2007, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fnshman
When trying to install fglrx, I got this error the first time when trying to install ati-x11-drv.

[root@localhost ~]# yum update yum-protectbase
Loading "protectbase" plugin
Config Error: File contains no section headers.
file: file://///etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo, line: 2
'protect=yes\n'

The only repo file with section headers is freshrpms.repo, all others have no headers.
I am linux newbie.
Besides auto updates for F7, this is the first install for this distro.
I am running--
AMD Athlon64 3000+
1024meg dual channel
MSI K8N neo4
ATI X1600 PCIe w/512

Well you made a typing error on this command

Code:
su -c 'perl -i -pe "s/(\[.*\])/\1\nprotect=yes/" /etc/yum.repos.d/{fedora*,livna*}'


and have added this edit to the repo's

protect=yes\n

instead of

protect=yes

can you post the output from this

su
ls /etc/yum.repos.d/
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Old 2nd November 2007, 03:32 AM
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but it isn't work.
when i type
Quote:
glxinfo
Code:
name of display: :0.0
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_ARB_multisample, 
    GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_ARB_multisample
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, 
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x27 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x28 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x29 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2a 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
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