how to permanently disable systemd-journald.service

[JoshuaA]

Systemd journal is not working right --it slows down my system, creates huge logs and I don't see any need for it. The problem is that using systemctl to disable it does not work; I disable systemd-journald.service and systemd-journald.socket, stop them and on the next boot they're running again. The logs are huge and if I don't stop the service they grow enormous.
System is fully updated fedora 19.

[sidebrnz]

Simply disabling a service isn't always enough, and now, I don't know why. To tell systemd that you really don't want it starting at boot, run this as root:

systemctl mask systemd-journald.service

You should see a response telling you that the service has been linked to /dev/null, which will make sure that it doesn't start at boot until you reverse the process by using unmask instead of mask.

[peoklin]

systemctl disable systemd-journald.service

[sidebrnz]

Disable should also work, but those who write the tutorials recommend using mask instead because it's guaranteed to work under all circumstances. Still, if you prefer to avoid heavy-handed solutions, you can try disable; if it doesn't stay disabled, you can always use mask.

BTW, disabling or masking a service only keeps it from starting at boot; if you want it stopped now, you need to run this as root:

systemctl stop systemd-journald.service

You should get back a message confirming that the service has, indeed, stopped.

[Skull One]

Systemd journal is not working right --it slows down my system, creates huge logs and I don't see any need for it. The problem is that using systemctl to disable it does not work; I disable systemd-journald.service and systemd-journald.socket, stop them and on the next boot they're running again. The logs are huge and if I don't stop the service they grow enormous.
System is fully updated fedora 19.

Reminds me an old bug in the beta version (see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=291813).
If the logs grow up, it is an alert that something is wrong on the system: what are the messages logged?

Try first to stop rsyslog, it must be enough:

systemctl stop rsyslog

[JoshuaA]

Thank you all for the advise I will try masking the service.

There is a bug in the kernel broadcom wireless driver that it constantly reports status --like a couple times per second. In an hour I get over 20 mb of the same message -- I don't find that useful. The system still logs information without systemd-journal, not as much information but enough.

It may take a little while before everything works right but for the most part Fedora 19 is great and runs fine on my 3 year old dell laptop.

[Skull One]

Which module is it? If it is b43, you can select the verbosity (look at 'modinfo b43'). Default value is 'info', but I you can set it to 'error' to not have the status messages logged.

[JoshuaA]

The driver is brcmsmac --it's already in bugzilla. It's an "upstream?" bug.

[Skull One]

The driver is brcmsmac --it's already in bugzilla. It's an "upstream?" bug.

Ok. I guess there is nothing to do for this one apart disabling the logging and wait for an update...

[sunveer]

Just rename the directory /var/log/journal to /var/log/journal.org and there will be no logging or delay afterwards.

[DBelton]

The best way is to just tell systemd to limit the size of the journal, and how long to keep it, etc..

Check out the config file for it.

/etc/systemd/journald.conf

[iscomplicated]

Why do you want to use NSA spyware sponsored systemd and journald ?

- Binary blob that nobody looks into, good to hide information
- Touching all core commands of Linux, with lots of new interesting bugs and troians
- All major distro jump onboard for no apparent reason whatsoever
- So entangled with the whole system that it is impossible to replace

Yes, it is a NSA spyware, no doubt about it

If you are a normal person you should try your best to get rid of it... otherwise....

keep up with the cheerleading

[antikythera]

Welcome to the forum,

This is a very old thread and therefore it has been closed.

ubuntu uses systemd and journald these days if you weren't already aware, NSA themselves originally developed SELinux but made it opensource. so you may want to swap to another distribution yourself containing none of these at all if concerned about such matters.

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