Everything please...

[baif]

I want a button to install everything that comes with install CDs, please. :(

The packages install tool - pirut always crashes when I click right mouse button...

:( :( :(

[Firewing1]

I take it you're using fc5t3...
if you are, dosu -
yum install --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=development *
Firewing1

[baif]

How can I install the packages from install CDs which are missing from fresh install.

[Firewing1]

That is how. The base of fc5 -dev ("development") channel goes onto the CD's. That will install what is on the CD's.
If you really wanna know, though, the CD's contain RPMS in:
Fedora/RPMS
To copy all the RPMS & Install them directly from the CD's, type:
mkdir ~/RPMS
put in CD1, (replace cdmounpoint with your mountpoint)
cd /media/cdmountpoint/Fedora/RPMS
cp -a * ~/RPMS
cd ~/RPMS
eject /media/cdmountpoint
Repeat for each CD. Then, type
cd ~/RPMS
su
rpm -Uhv ./*.rpm
Firewing1

[baif]

It's very kind you. I just need a button.

[Crux]

It's very kind you. I just need a button.

Go back to WinDOS..

Crux, I don't like you except for this part "Closed Source software is the only thing you can legally purchase, and not legally take apart." Go away, please.

Quoted from blue192

You may not LIKE my answers, however they will work...

[Jman]

pirut is from the test release and under development, please file bugs as you find them at http://bugzilla.redhat.com. At least it always crashes, intermittent bugs are tricky to track down.

I do not recommend installing everything. It sounds convenient, but yum updates are huge and if there are any conflicts you hit them.

[baif]

Go back to WinDOS..



Quoted from blue192

You may not LIKE my answers, however they will work...

Why? I've been with GNU/Linux for so many years.

[baif]

pirut is from the test release and under development, please file bugs as you find them at http://bugzilla.redhat.com. At least it always crashes, intermittent bugs are tricky to track down.

I do not recommend installing everything. It sounds convenient, but yum updates are huge and if there are any conflicts you hit them.

Oh. It may sound to be very werid, because pirut never(I just test only a few hours, actually) go wrong on my x86_64 box. But always goes wrong on my i386 platform.

Installing everything is to test everything :).

[Firewing1]

Well, why do you need a button? Once they're installed they're installed. If you've been using Linux for so many years, a terminal shouldn't be that hard, right?
Firewing1

[bob]

Well, this creates a button: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=96317 Of course, it isn't for FC5T3 and it isn't for installing everything - just updating, but I'm sure you can customize it as you need.

[zeky]

baif: don't worry, this will work in a final verion, I'm sure.

[baif]

baif: don't worry, this will work in a final verion, I'm sure.
well thank you.

[le_random]

Yes, you cannot expect something from a testing or development version to work out of the box - Remember that F/OSS needs the community to do both alpha and beta testing - unlike a corporation that can afford to employ monkeys to iron out the major bugs, and then releases beta testing versions fairly late on in the development cycle.

Pirut, and FC5t3 are test releases - if you want a distro that "just works" use the current stable systems, ie. yum / anaconda / FC4

It's why I stick to older FC versions - they don't have all the bells and whistles, but uptime is important to me - my computer is a work tool, so I stick to the stable releases, because I need everything to work.

If you do want to take part in the great public debugging session known as FC5t3, it's important that you file bugzilla reports so they can be fixed in the final release - if you haven't got time, save everyone's pain (including your own) by using a stable release.

I'd especially note that if you want to get FC running with unusual hardware, or laptops with strange chipsets, you will probably be better off using a stable distribution, because then you have more likelyhood of finding people who have already overcome or found a work-around for any problems you are experiencing.

Finally, as has been mentioned above - big shiny buttons are great, and on the final release I would expect nice shiny buttons, but you will get more out of your FC experience if you don't shy away from the command-line tools, especially if those tools are better than the pretty GUIs. In my humble opinion, yum is a fantastic piece of software, and if there is one command line utility that FC users should get to know, it is yum. GUIs like yumex have their place (particularly if you have no idea what name the package has that you need), but for speed and simplicity, yum is the best.

[baif]

pirut is from the test release and under development, please file bugs as you find them at http://bugzilla.redhat.com. At least it always crashes, intermittent bugs are tricky to track down.

I do not recommend installing everything. It sounds convenient, but yum updates are huge and if there are any conflicts you hit them.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=184373

Thank you. :cool:

[baif]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=184373

Thank you. :cool:

maybe something wrong about pygtk.

[john_linuxuser]

I want a button to install everything that comes with install CDs, please. :(

The packages install tool - pirut always crashes when I click right mouse button...

:( :( :(


I feel for you. I long for the good old everything button.

FC6's default package list is really too short.

We average users need a 8G installation package set to start some
basic work. "Basic work" in the linux community means
1. lib c++ backward compatibility
2. create repo
3. KDE , yes, we gnome users look into KDE for their good pdf thumbnail
, 90degree rotation, and the good GUI apps.
4. xpdf for the exeme fast easy browsing
5. many dependent mpeg libs for Video editor apps

and the list goes on and on.

Before and at fc4, you could feel the packaging team in fedora worked very
hard to ensure many high level apps (such as video editing) rpm package
work in their final distribution CDROM.

However, after using FC6 for half a year, I find the advantage of no everything

1. Default install takes only 30 minutes everytime I reinstall linux
And if you do gcc all the time, you are most likely a hacker,
and you install fresh linux 3 times a month.

2. vsftpd installed by everything does not work with Cisco device
proftp from extra works

3. I don't need franch language package for openoffice.org it wastes
time waiting for the 50 langues multiply 20 apps about 1000 packages.

4. The dia (which CCIE candidates or networkers use to draw diagrams)
from everything crashes too often, I need to uninstall and try different
packaging sites.

and the list goes on and on

[john_linuxuser]

I feel for you. I long for the good old everything button.

FC6's default package list is really too short.

We average users need a 8G installation package set to start some
basic work. "Basic work" in the linux community means
1. lib c++ backward compatibility
2. create repo
3. KDE , yes, we gnome users look into KDE for their good pdf thumbnail
, 90degree rotation, and the good GUI apps.
4. xpdf for the exeme fast easy browsing
5. many dependent mpeg libs for Video editor apps

and the list goes on and on.

Before and at fc4, you could feel the packaging team in fedora worked very
hard to ensure many high level apps (such as video editing) rpm package
work in their final distribution CDROM.

However, after using FC6 for half a year, I find the advantage of no everything

1. Default install takes only 30 minutes everytime I reinstall linux
And if you do gcc all the time, you are most likely a hacker,
and you install fresh linux 3 times a month.

2. vsftpd installed by everything does not work with Cisco device
proftp from extra works

3. I don't need franch language package for openoffice.org it wastes
time waiting for the 50 langues multiply 20 apps about 1000 packages.

4. The dia (which CCIE candidates or networkers use to draw diagrams)
from everything crashes too often, I need to uninstall and try different
packaging sites.

and the list goes on and on


Now I have both fc4 (everything) and fc6 in 2 partitions both mounted.
FC4 constantly reminds me how small I am.
fc4's packaging team knows a lot about networking like radius than
me and tomcat and advanced tk widgets like blt which I make a living
using them.

[JN4OldSchool]

I feel for you. I long for the good old everything button.

FC6's default package list is really too short.

We average users need a 8G installation package set to start some
basic work. "Basic work" in the linux community means
1. lib c++ backward compatibility
2. create repo
3. KDE , yes, we gnome users look into KDE for their good pdf thumbnail
, 90degree rotation, and the good GUI apps.
4. xpdf for the exeme fast easy browsing
5. many dependent mpeg libs for Video editor apps

and the list goes on and on.

Before and at fc4, you could feel the packaging team in fedora worked very
hard to ensure many high level apps (such as video editing) rpm package
work in their final distribution CDROM.

However, after using FC6 for half a year, I find the advantage of no everything

1. Default install takes only 30 minutes everytime I reinstall linux
And if you do gcc all the time, you are most likely a hacker,
and you install fresh linux 3 times a month.

2. vsftpd installed by everything does not work with Cisco device
proftp from extra works

3. I don't need franch language package for openoffice.org it wastes
time waiting for the 50 langues multiply 20 apps about 1000 packages.

4. The dia (which CCIE candidates or networkers use to draw diagrams)
from everything crashes too often, I need to uninstall and try different
packaging sites.

and the list goes on and on

This is SOOO old hat...3.6GB is NOT big enough for you? You want 8GB ISO downloads? You are into SM also arent you? This is what yum is for. The longer I go with Linux the less I want on initial install. In fact, just give me a 30MB boot file so I can do a net install. I will add whatever packages I need thank you very much. How many of you have apps you have never even used installed? If this number is over 30-40% you have problems! My FC6 install is bloated :( I even told myself I wouldnt and I still did. It is all those free apps...you just cant pass up a bargin. Whats that? A program to take Liberacie albums and convert them to MP3 with all tags? Well, I really dont...what? It's FREE? Sure, I'll install it! Then you have those "well, what if I need that app 6 months from now?" people. Hey dude, that repo aint going anywhere! Install it when you need it. My problem is I like to play and I just cant seem to get rid of anything. I am a packrat in life too. I play with a new music player but I cant uninstall it. It like goes against my grain. All you install everything peeps need to wake the hell up! This isnt even an argument anymore. Part two of this post says it all. Why do you need a swahili language pack anyway? For real. My yum update is already nuts, and I am semi-disciplined about this. My install is once again creeping above 12GB and that is without ANY personal docs, music and such. Just the OS and installed apps. Nuts, just nuts I say! No, you dont need an "install everything" button! You need a dose of common sense is what you need!

[Firewing1]

yum install a* b* c* d* e* f* g* h* i* j* k* l* m* n* o* p* q* r* s* t* u* v* w* x* y* z* A* B* C* D* E* F* G* H* I* J* K* L* M* N* O* P* Q* R* S* T* U* V* W* X* Y* Z* 0* 1* 2* 3* 4* 5* 6* 7* 8* 9*
Unless a package name starts with a symbol you have every single package in that command.
Firewing1

[Dies]

yum install a* b* c* d* e* f* g* h* i* j* k* l* m* n* o* p* q* r* s* t* u* v* w* x* y* z* A* B* C* D* E* F* G* H* I* J* K* L* M* N* O* P* Q* R* S* T* U* V* W* X* Y* Z* 0* 1* 2* 3* 4* 5* 6* 7* 8* 9*
Unless a package name starts with a symbol you have every single package in that command.
Firewing1

ROFLMAO! I going to try that sometime... :D

Or he could just head over to Debian and DL the 50 thousand CD's then knock himself out.

[Firewing1]

ROFLMAO! I going to try that sometime... :D

Or he could just head over to Debian and DL the 50 thousand CD's then knock himself out.
It's a long one, isn't it? :D
Firewing1

[techmind48]

Firewing1,

Tried this code and the error message:
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
dries 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
rpmforge 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
core 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
http://newrpms.sunsite.dk/apt/redhat/en/i386/fc6/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 23:27:17 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.1
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Trying other mirror.
http://newrpms.atrpms.net/apt/redhat/en/i386/fc6/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 23:27:18 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Fedora)
Content-Length: 323
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: newrpms.sunsite.dk

Bhasker Raj
India

[Firewing1]

Like I said in the PM, this is because the newrpms.sunsite.dk repo isn't compatible with FC6 - If you remove it things should go better.
Firewing1

[techmind48]

Like I said in the PM, this is because the newrpms.sunsite.dk repo isn't compatible with FC6 - If you remove it things should go better.
Firewing1
FireWing1,

Please tell me how to remove newrpms.sunsite.dk repo?

Bhasker Raj
India

[Firewing1]

Can you post a the files listed in the /etc/yum.repos.d folder? Once of those files should be something like 'newrpms.repo' - Removing that file will remove the repository. Or, if you use Yumex, it also can be done from there by right-clicking the 'newrpms' repository and selecting 'delete'.
Firewing1

[techmind48]

Can you post a the files listed in the /etc/yum.repos.d folder? Once of those files should be something like 'newrpms.repo' - Removing that file will remove the repository. Or, if you use Yumex, it also can be done from there by right-clicking the 'newrpms' repository and selecting 'delete'.
Firewing1
Firewing1,

yum.repos.d folder is not available in /etc file.

Bhasker Raj
India

[Firewing1]

Something is wrong then - /etc/yum.repos.d is in the basic Fedora layout - Can you post the output of
find /etc/ | grep yum
find /etc/ | grep repo
cat /etc/yum.conf
Firewing1