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hollovoid
28th February 2006, 03:30 PM
since the open source drivers are unbearable for me to work with (very noticable choppiness in basic thing) I gave the nvidia drivers a shot, now, I understand this is a new modular xorg that changes alot of the underlaying infrastructure and therefore had to patch the nvidia driver for it to see this and work fine.. but now, any update to the system is a struggle, even todays xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi made the gui quit before logging any messages, no hint as to what didnt load, nothing in /var/log/gdm, nothing in the xorg logs, and no hints in dmesg.

what im basically getting at, is are we gonna be dealing with this with all distros that switch to this new xorg? because I can understand re installing after a kernel update, or a major revision to X, but not every single measly font, security, typo, and any other unrelated part of the system affecting its operation. I hope Nvidia realizes this and comes with a way to have more of a static drivers system that is unaffected by anything but the very core of x11, and kernel. Maybe a daemon that runs at startup, that checks all the nvidia stuff out and asks to perform maintenance if something has affected the drivers ability to work.

or else I can see migration very very painful for anybody who wants more than just a single screen unaccellerated X.

Finalzone
28th February 2006, 05:46 PM
Check out the Livna version of Nvidia that is taking advantage of modular X.
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/02/fc5-test-2-nvidia-finally-successful.html

Also read this post (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-February/msg01178.html) about the reason to not use the official driver from Nvidia (who themselves encourage third party to work on customized version). Apparently, Nvidia is looking closely to Livna.

hollovoid
1st March 2006, 01:08 PM

its good to see that livna has been testing this as well, it will be interesting to see how they work when fc5 hits final (instructions didnt work for me thus far) and to see if the compiler is gonna behave (last weeks gcc update doesnt like my wireless drivers, amarok, or xine-lib)

Flyboy917
2nd March 2006, 01:53 AM
How about ATI? Screen "choppiness" an my ATI 9700 is terrible with the generic install. Wheel scrolling makes it even worse.

hollovoid
2nd March 2006, 12:55 PM
I believe they have ati drivers in the same folder that the test nvidia drivers are in for livna , im not sure on peoples success with that, but I do remember seeing them in there.