View Full Version : FC5 is it an improvement???
jamdusr
2006-01-27, 09:42 AM CST
Hi Fedora users. I really liked FC3 but FC4 was a poor follow-up in my opinion.
In fact FC4 even freezes on my homebuilt sempron-maybe it's the nvidia drivers but I multiboot about 7 distros and none of the others is as bad as FC4. Hey I'm not interested in a flame war just wondering if anyone has enough experiance with FC5 to say if it's worth downloading and burning. Thanks
I guess I should have said none of the other distros I fool around with freezes my computer.
It's not that I think fedora is bad-far-far from it. It just not as dependable as FC3 was on my machine.
bob
2006-01-27, 09:51 AM CST
(moved to FC5 - Dev)
BandC
2006-01-27, 03:06 PM CST
Isn't it kinda early to ask this? I mean it's not even released yet.
Jman
2006-01-27, 03:14 PM CST
It is very early. Wait until the release and then read the release notes.
Finalzone
2006-01-27, 03:15 PM CST
Hi Fedora users. I really liked FC3 but FC4 was a poor follow-up in my opinion.
In fact FC4 even freezes on my homebuilt sempron-maybe it's the nvidia drivers but I multiboot about 7 distros and none of the others is as bad as FC4. Hey I'm not interested in a flame war just wondering if anyone has enough experiance with FC5 to say if it's worth downloading and burning. Thanks
I guess I should have said none of the other distros I fool around with freezes my computer.
It's not that I think fedora is bad-far-far from it. It just not as dependable as FC3 was on my machine.
Final version of FC5 will be ready for march 2006 roughly after Gnome 2.14.x. Currently, the test version is improving compared to FC4 when it comes to yum, anaconda, pirut (the new frontend package manager) and new apparence. Since test release is about finding many bugs as possible in order to fix, it is not recommended for production use. Hopefull more testers will be around to improve the distro quality.
jamdusr
2006-01-27, 04:47 PM CST
Isn't it kinda early to ask this? I mean it's not even released yet.
Yeah it is. I actually didn't post this in the developer forum-it was moved. Just hoping to hear from anyone who had experiance with FC5 test2. BTW I'm using FC4 right now and it's been ok. Sort of unpredictable when and if it freezes.
bob
2006-01-27, 05:11 PM CST
I moved it here because this Forum is to "Discuss everything on Fedora Core 5 development cycle and test releases." Seemed like you wanted to discuss it. And, I just WANTED to move it, and I could, so I did. :D
Firewing1
2006-01-27, 05:28 PM CST
Hey,
Personally I think FC5 is gonna be a great release. From what I've heard, there's going to be many speed + stablility improvements.
Well worth a burn + install,.
Firewing1
lsatenstein
2006-01-27, 06:40 PM CST
Hi Fedora users. I really liked FC3 but FC4 was a poor follow-up in my opinion.
In fact FC4 even freezes on my homebuilt sempron-maybe it's the nvidia drivers but I multiboot about 7 distros and none of the others is as bad as FC4. Hey I'm not interested in a flame war just wondering if anyone has enough experiance with FC5 to say if it's worth downloading and burning. Thanks
I guess I should have said none of the other distros I fool around with freezes my computer.
It's not that I think fedora is bad-far-far from it. It just not as dependable as FC3 was on my machine.
Since FC5 test2 is on my 2nd hard disk, I boot it daily. There is no freezing for any application, though there are some that I have not tested or installed.
I like this distribution. It is fast, because of being built with a new optimising C / C++ compiler.
Leslie
hardrod04
2006-01-27, 06:50 PM CST
FC5 is running pretty fast. The only problem is most essential applications like mplayer won't compile properly. If you used the old FC4 rpm, the binaries will run but with problems. I've been compiling most of the applications from scratch and only had a few success (finally xine/ffmpeg compiled after a gcc update)
And the SELinux thing breaks too many stuff, drives not mounting, flash not working, all related to how "enhanced" permissions problems.
hasbeard
2006-01-27, 06:57 PM CST
Does anyone know what version of the gstreamer engine will be standard with Fedora Core 5? I want to use the new mp-3 support plugin Fluendo has available, but it only works with gstreamer10 (whatever it is).
Finalzone
2006-01-27, 08:26 PM CST
Likely gstreamer-0.10.
smfinley
2006-01-27, 08:47 PM CST
And the SELinux thing breaks too many stuff, drives not mounting, flash not working, all related to how "enhanced" permissions problems.At the moment there's a problem with Flash and Java related to SELinux in FC5T2. For Flash and Java run "system-config-securitylevel" as root and as your user. For each (root and your user) on the SELinux tab under "Modify SELinux Policy" click "Compatibility", then tick the check boxes for "Allow executables to run with executable stack" and "Allow the use of shared libraries with Text Relocation". Then click the "OK" button.
homey
2006-01-28, 07:52 AM CST
I think FC5 is going to be the Greatest even though FC4 was just fine IMHO!
They are plugging away at it
Yesterday's kernel fixed my iptables script failure.
Today's KDE update brought back the desktop auto display of my usb stick.
zikade
2006-01-28, 09:27 AM CST
First Impressions with FC5test2:
It looks nice, in fact it looks nicer than any other Linux-Distribution I ever had. It even feels smoother. Installation (IF it completes) is much easier. The applications, which are installed as default, cover almost everything an ordinary user would need.
On the other hand: it is not finished, a couple of problems remain which are pretty annoying, like printing from evolution crashes evolution.
Then, of course, the usual: no mp3 support; flash & java - you can get them to work, sure, but you have to know linux and FC a bit more.
Flyboy917
2006-01-28, 11:09 PM CST
Hi Fedora users. I really liked FC3 but FC4 was a poor follow-up in my opinion.
I thought the same thing at first. I installed FC4 within days of it's release and soon went back to FC3. After a month or so, I gave FC4 another shot and found it to be everything I was looking for. My advice would be to give FC5 some time also. It will get there.
jamdusr
2006-01-29, 10:01 AM CST
Thanks the posts are illuminating. What about the nvidia driver issues? Does anyone have experiance with that in FC5. I read somewhere that the nvidia driver(s) don't work well with the 2.6.14 kernels, and I think that the nvidia driver may be the cause of my lock-ups/freezes. I think I have been able to duplicate the freezing, but need to do a little more experimenting.
Seve
2006-01-29, 07:20 PM CST
Thanks the posts are illuminating. What about the nvidia driver issues? Does anyone have experiance with that in FC5. I read somewhere that the nvidia driver(s) don't work well with the 2.6.14 kernels, and I think that the nvidia driver may be the cause of my lock-ups/freezes. I think I have been able to duplicate the freezing, but need to do a little more experimenting.
HI:
I have installed the 1.0-8178-x86_64 version on FC5 Test 2 with the latest kernel being 2.6.15-1.1881_FC5.
The Nvidia Driver version is patched from here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62021
My current Xorg.O.log is clean and the nvidia-installer.log is error free. However, certain things are still amiss, for example glxgears not being installed etc.
Keeping in mind that FC5 is still no where near ready for prime time, all in all it's not too bad so far.
Seve
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