Yum & fedora-developement question

[dishkuvek]

Hi, sorry for the yum ignorance, but I've been toying around with FC5, I was wondering if it is normal to have a hundred dependancy unmet errors, the last one is always kudzu wanting a kernel < 2.6.13.

Also, when I do (for example) a "yum list program" it almost always reports two versions installed, with on version listen in development that, I should be able to upgrade to. However, when I issue a "yum update" or use the script on the fedora wiki page, nothing gets updated.

Just wondering if everyone is experiencing this at the moment, or if my system is borked.

The other strange thing is that udev (when starting up) is complaining, about the kernel being too old, however, the kernel wont upgrade (claiming unmet dependancies).

I've only got fedora-development.repo and fedora-extras-development.repo enabled.

[smfinley]

Fedora 5 is in test 1 release. There will be breakage. Take a look at the broken deps sections of the daily Rawhide reports on the mailing list (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/). Also please read this (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JefSpaleta/TestingManifesto).

[dishkuvek]

Breakage is cool. I am just unfamiliar with Fedora and yum, and wanted to know if this was expected breakage, or just something stupid I did. If it IS expected breakage, then I am more than willing to get my hands dirty and start piecing things back together.

Thank for the link, it was informative. Maybe it's just me, but I find is a little rough to navigate the wiki site.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi, sorry for the yum ignorance, but I've been toying around with FC5, I was wondering if it is normal to have a hundred dependancy unmet errors, the last one is always kudzu wanting a kernel < 2.6.13.

Also, when I do (for example) a "yum list program" it almost always reports two versions installed, with on version listen in development that, I should be able to upgrade to. However, when I issue a "yum update" or use the script on the fedora wiki page, nothing gets updated.

Just wondering if everyone is experiencing this at the moment, or if my system is borked.

The other strange thing is that udev (when starting up) is complaining, about the kernel being too old, however, the kernel wont upgrade (claiming unmet dependancies).

I've only got fedora-development.repo and fedora-extras-development.repo enabled.

I have documented the procedures here.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide

[dishkuvek]

Thank Rahul. It is kind of you to be patient enough to post a link I am sure you've posted a million times.

I have another question if you don't mind: I've been trying to use some --exclude options to get around dep issues, however they seem to be ignored. I used one for each package mentioned in the missing dep errors, and all of their provides packages too. Exact same errors pop up though. What should I try?

What I am trying to do is update xorg to X11R7

[RahulSundaram]

Thank Rahul. It is kind of you to be patient enough to post a link I am sure you've posted a million times.

I have another question if you don't mind: I've been trying to use some --exclude options to get around dep issues, however they seem to be ignored. I used one for each package mentioned in the missing dep errors, and all of their provides packages too. Exact same errors pop up though. What should I try?

What I am trying to do is update xorg to X11R7

I am pretty sure you are misunderstanding the yum output and specifying the excludes incorrectly or doing it in the wrong repository. Like I have said in the document above, posting to the fedora-test list with the exact yum output and what you specified to exclude and in which repositories would be useful for you to workaround whatever issues you have in the test/development releases. Make sure you read the recent list archives on fedora-test and fedora-devel list especially the daily rawhide reports for known problems possibly with workarounds too.

[smfinley]

You could use one of the scripts in the "Tips and Tricks" section of the Tools/yum page (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum) to get the packages which have no dependency issues. I just copy the first script into a text editor and save it as "yum.sh". (Be sure to add a new line at the end of the file.) Then I run "sh yum.sh" as root in the directory where I saved it.

[RahulSundaram]

You could use one of the scripts in the "Tips and Tricks" section of the Tools/yum page (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum) to get the packages which have no dependency issues. I just copy the first script into a text editor and save it as "yum.sh" and then run "sh yum.sh" as root in the directory where I saved it.

Which happens to be documented in the tips and tricks section of the testing guide ;-)