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Firewing1
16th December 2005, 01:53 AM
Hello all,
I've been using Linux for several years now, and love it. At the same time, I'm very fustrated by it. There are certain things that become cumbersome and I'd like help out.

I've been doing more and more programming lately, and I've also created script-wing (see my signature)
EDIT: Moved to www.diffingo.com/opensource...

So if anyone would like to request a special app for me to work on, I'll consider it...
Firewing1

hiberphoptik
16th December 2005, 03:02 AM
ive been using linux for over 10 years now.. beleive me.. Fedora is quick and easy to setup and customize compaired to RH5 or minix, or anything from "back then"

personally I feel that it gets better with each release, what bugs me is the little things that new linux users expect to "just work" but they dont... and you have to explain to them that they have to set it up by editing a text file *watch their eyes glaze over as they loose interest*

rayyes
16th December 2005, 03:15 AM

I just want to say thats a very generous offer of you :)
unfortunately i got so used to the command line i find it easier than editing using GUI :P
I think the best ideas would come from the absolute noobs..

Sounds interesting...i have a few free hours every day after work..Im gonna read those tutorials...might even get involved. Good luck

darth_vector
16th December 2005, 04:10 AM
hi,

the only thing that bothers me about fedora is the lack of hardware support compared to distros like ubuntu. other than that i have no complaints at all.

nlkrio
16th December 2005, 04:47 AM
I have installed yumex but i never use it ,i prefer yum because is much faster,so i am used to command lines,sometimes i compile from source or i use srcrpms but the thing which i hate is waiting to update packages like openoffice core...
Generally i like fedora and sometimes i am thinking to start using Debian,my brother who is a Java,C & C++ programmer always tease me that real linux users are the debian users but for my needs FEDORA is GREAT

Firewing1
16th December 2005, 03:06 PM
@rayyes, thanks!
I agree, editing config files in /etc/ manually is a big pain for newbs. Are there any in specific that newbs out there would like a GUI to?
Firewing1

nlkrio
16th December 2005, 03:31 PM
A list with hardware,that are fedora friendly!

Firewing1
16th December 2005, 11:54 PM
Hmmm... I have no idea how to get that one going....
Maybe we should start a thread of what works, or how people got it to work and then I'll create a MySQL database on it?
Firewing1

darth_vector
17th December 2005, 04:13 AM
that would be very helpfull. i am happy to help - in whatever limited way that i can :)

RedFedora
17th December 2005, 12:35 PM
I've also been thinking of creating a small script/program that would
automate early setup tasks. Such as adding third-party repos,
installing mp3 support for k3b, xmms, installing mplayer, java,
browser plug-ins, etc.

terra453
17th December 2005, 02:11 PM
hi,

the only thing that bothers me about fedora is the lack of hardware support compared to distros like ubuntu. other than that i have no complaints at all.

I'm surprised that you mentioned the lack of hardware support. I'm using a new 3.0Ghz processor with an old ide drive (the board is set up for a SATA drive) and the only distro I could getting working was FC4. I'd previously had great success with Slackware and I had also worked with Ubuntu on my previous computer.

Fedora booted up and I was able to set up my basic system without too much intervention on my part. Of course then I had to add mp3 support, screensavers etc, etc, but I had done all that before in slackware so I didn't mind that too much.

Terra

Firewing1
17th December 2005, 04:20 PM
@red_fedora -- it's already done. [S|G] and I have released the script already, although it could use come work.
http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=419283#post419283&goto=lastpost
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http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=419284#post419284
There's the thread for hardware compatibility listings.
Post your config that works, doesn't work, whatever. It'll go to the right category in the database.
Firewing1

linmix
17th December 2005, 07:41 PM
I like the ideas you guys are getting, even though they are so ambitious I don't know what'll come of it...
It's fine to make a listing, actually it might prove to be a great help, but will all the hardware that works under FC4 still work with FC5?

There are a number of general hardware compatibility lists (My favourite one is at LinuxQuestions.org (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/index.php?referrerid=121283)) and a number of distros already have a HCL database you can search as well... but in order to get a really good database the thread would need a lot of exposure and preferrable some kind of 'official' backing. Still, I'll make sure to post my sys specs.

sej7278
17th December 2005, 10:04 PM
Yeah, I usually just install a few things via yum, do an update and edit a few .conf files, and away I go, not sure I'd like a GUI tool for it, a Korne script maybe....

I guess after an "everything install" I would:

1. Yum install xmms, xmms-mp3, scribus, mplayer, xine, smeg and a few others.

2. Manually install Flash, Nvidia, wxPython, Rt2500, WINE, NeroLinux, sometimes NTFS and Java.

3. Disable IPv6 and ZeroConf for network, configure some routes/hosts/IPs for wired/wireless NICs (I use static IP not DHCP crap).

4. Setup lm_sensors/gkrellm.

5. Setup Thunderbird and a few Email accounts - simple as untarring a backed-up .thunderbird directory.

6. Install a few Firefox Extensions, themes and bookmarks.

7. Copy over personal files and source from the fileserver.

8. Ooh, turn off all the useless services like Sendmail and NFS.

9. Setup my panel, desktop icons, applets and tidy the menus.

10. Wallpaper.

11. Configure Apache and VSFTPd.

12. Setup a few yum.repos.d files.

I wouldn't do all of the above on all machines, some are fileserver-only, some are laptop-only.

Firewing1
18th December 2005, 10:30 PM
Numbers 1, 2, 8, are already supported or will be soon. As for Apache, VSFTPD, and IPV6, they already have Gui tools... Thanks for the feedback though! I'll work on PyGTK service configs...
system-config-services can do it, but I'll try program a "recommended" config usable for the just-make-it-work user.
Server setups, like yours, are different...
Firewing1