Fedora Core 4 released !

[ghaefb]

It's official now, Fedora Core 4 Linux has finally been released.

http://fedora.redhat.com/ | Release notes (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/) | Installation Guide (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/)
"Fedora Core 4 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core is available for x86-64, i386, and ppc/ppc64. Please file bugs via Bugzilla, Product Fedora Core, Version 4, so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this release on fedora-list."

Download: mirrors (http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html) - torrent (http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/)

[mnisay]

yes yes yes !

im still 0% at 5MB/sec :) not bad...

[mike]

Only 30kb here:(

[ege_yizhang]

The version that has been floating around proves to be identical to the official release. Cool!

[deepfreeze]

the bittorrent file is not set yet, when it will be there? I can find only the FC4 test3 :(

[Daverz]

I just upgraded from FC4T3 by installing the new fedora-release RPM and running yum update yum then yum update. I hope I didn't shoot myself in the foot doing this. I had to uncomment "baseurl" in the .repo files as the mirrors don't seem to be complete yet.

[ghaefb]

the bittorrent file is not set yet, when it will be there? I can find only the FC4 test3 :(
Clear your web browsers cache and reload the page.

[Pezzoni]

Am I correct to assume that unless I want to have to compile it, I need to get:
Fedora Core 4 Release binary iso images for i386
And not the source images?
</stupid> :D

Thanks,

[mike]

Some of Fedora Extras and Linva have been updated to FC4. Good work there.

[ghaefb]

Am I correct to assume that unless I want to have to compile it, I need to get:
Fedora Core 4 Release binary iso images for i386
And not the source images?
</stupid> :D

Thanks,
You are correct :)

[tanis]

tracker returns 200 peers.
thats just crazy considering its only been out for 2 hours
and i am still downloading at 1 KB/sec

[bitrain]

tracker returns 200 peers.
thats just crazy considering its only been out for 2 hours
and i am still downloading at 1 KB/secI'm at my maximum speed (30 KB/s), which torrent do you have? (i have the torrentspy.com torrent)

[tanis]

use the this torrent .
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/stentz-binary-i386.torrent
for i386 or one of the other official torrets.
you'll help us other leechers as well
now dl speed 66 and upl speed 106
god bless bittorrents.

[zjimward]

I'm getting u/l 58KB and D/l 40KB to 170KB (very strange how this goes up and down).

[tejas]

when will yum start working?

and why has xmms been removed from FC4 altogether.

And ABIWord as well

[snoze]

and why has xmms been removed from FC4 altogether.
because it was also not working properly with fedora core 3. It has some sound prob...

[bitrain]

when will yum start working?

and why has xmms been removed from FC4 altogether.

And ABIWord as wellThey have been moved to the extras, no idea why, I liked xmms
Yum should work with FC extras already.

[GravityFX3]

Yeah, downloading a dvd version right now, LOL

Here is a good fast official mirror for Fedora Core 4 (Stentz)
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/

[mike]

Ouch, Anaconda buf crashed my install. I hope it is just bad media.

Mike

[GravityFX3]

Ouch, Anaconda buf crashed my install. I hope it is just bad media.

Mike

try the link above :)

[friez]

the xmms from fedora extra i think is broken.
everytime i ran it i got seg fault
i downgrade and now it seems to run fine

[pstrang]

I supposed they don't release the DVD iso immediately? I don't see it anywhere. :( Anybody know where to get it? Or when will they post it?

Thanks.

[mike]

try the link above :)
That is where I got it. May have been a bad DVD burn.

Mike

[GravityFX3]

I supposed they don't release the DVD iso immediately? I don't see it anywhere. :( Anybody know where to get it? Or when will they post it?

Thanks.

Here you go, I've posted the link on top :D

any way here you go:
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/FC4-i386-DVD.iso

Size: 2.6GB
Speed: 400/kbps

[tejas]

The mirror in this thread should be the fastest, as no one would use it

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=58977

[mike]

That is where I got it. May have been a bad DVD burn.

Media checks out ok, but still getting error, re-downloading.

:(

[snoze]

since begining xmms is creating problem.. thats why they remove it from fedora main list.. may be extra work

[Finalzone]

They have been moved to the extras, no idea why, I liked xmms
Yum should work with FC extras already.

Because both xmms and Abiword are similar functions like rythmbox and OpenOffice 2.0. Devkopers has decided to move applications that duplicate similar functionalitites to extras repository. In the future, Ananconda will allow users to customize installation using extras repository.

updates-release is not enabled yet, simply add --disablerepo=updates-release with yum command.

[neilius]

Installed and running now, no major issues, just waiting for the livna nvidia rpms then all should be grand! Having extras included by default is great and yum is working now so I installed a few games and bits from extras that I use.

Regards,

Neil.

[Pzykotic]

I'm a manager for an IT security firm. I just got the x86/x64 DVD ISO's of FC-4. One phrase sums FC and FC-4 up well: "Abso-f'ingloutely amazing!". By far the best distro since Debian revamped it's installer about two/three years ago (IMHO).

[Isardor]

I'm downloading it via ISDN :)
Will FC4 be available in some magazines like Linux+ or somewhat?
Will xmms be deleted by updating to fc 4?

[phefner]

What happened to the DVD iso images? Is Fedora not making them anymore? I've been searching for one, but haven't had any luck

[TWljaGFlbA]

phefner their all over the place... have u tried torrents.fedoraproject.org

[phefner]

I haven't tried the torrents, because I don't have bit torrent on my computer, plus I am at work. Fedora used to keep the DVD iso's in the download tree, but removed them. I have the DVD iso for Core 3, and I downloaded it directly from the Fedora directory at Red Hat.

I might give the torrent a try, but I would prefer an FTP or HTTP download of the DVD iso if it is available somewhere.

Thanks,

[jtang613]

I haven't tried the torrents, because I don't have bit torrent on my computer, plus I am at work. Fedora used to keep the DVD iso's in the download tree, but removed them. I have the DVD iso for Core 3, and I downloaded it directly from the Fedora directory at Red Hat.

I might give the torrent a try, but I would prefer an FTP or HTTP download of the DVD iso if it is available somewhere.

Thanks,
The DVD ISOs are everywhere. If it's not (yet) on your local mirror, just try another mirror until you find it.

Jason

[phefner]

Yeah, I just found one at Duke's ftp.

I guess some of the mirrors haven't put up the DVD's yet.

thanks for the help. At least I know that they haven't stopped providing them.

Peace!

[gerardrubio]

Done: 17.5%
Seeds/Peers: 1 (126) / 8 (2913)
D/l: 14.5 - 100kB/s

From the official server and downloading the DVD iso :D

[rkl]

I didn't get enough time to burn the FC4 DVD ISO, but I have mounted it and looked at the RELEASE-NOTES file at the top level of the ISO tree and it seems to be full of Unicode/8-bit characters ! This is also true of the online HTML version of the release notes (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/) (heck, even the second line of that page comes out as "Copyright © 2005 Red Hat, Inc." !!). It's all quite distracting as you read the notes - I'm really surprised they didn't fix this one...

[stanmc]

I've downloaded disc1, the rescue disc and the md5sum file named SHA1SUM. When I run md5sum -c SHA1SUM I get the message that it is not a properly formatted md5sum file. :confused: What should I be running if not md5sum? The file is 871 bytes long.

I'm using FC3 and up2date says it is up to date.

Just for info or a point of reference, I'm writing this using Knoppix 3.9 booted from a CD and Firefox 1.0.4 on my "Windoze" machine. My FC3 machine is downloading disc2 at the moment from redhat.secsup.org using ftp. I'm getting 119KB/s throughput. Don't have enough room to download all 4 files at once. Got to burn them in groups of 2.

Thanks for any info.

[tejas]

You need to check the sha1sum, not the md5sum

sha1sum <file>

-Tejas Dinkar

[jgionet]

Here you go, I've posted the link on top :D

any way here you go:
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/FC4-i386-DVD.iso

Size: 2.6GB
Speed: 400/kbps

this mirror is lightening fast.. I'm in Ont/Canada and getting 450/kbps!! woohoo

[stanmc]

You need to check the sha1sum, not the md5sum

sha1sum <file>

-Tejas Dinkar
Thanks. I've been doing md5sum for so long and its worked for so long that I didn't know sha1sum existed. Both the FC3 MD5SUM file and the SHA1SUM file say SHA1 on the first line "Hash: SHA1". I figured that meant they were the same type. WRONG. :)

[pparks1]

Also found that this mirror site is super fast,
http://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/iso/

[Albert69]

today i have tryed many mirrors without success (10-50k), so i have installed bit torrent: 2 hours connected at the average speed of 50k (on 150k connection)
i have even tryed two download at the same time (32 and 64 bit) but the speed decrease :( :(
what's wrong (i have read the faq and set the true port rule on the router)?
thx

[MisterEd]

today i have tryed many mirrors without success (10-50k), so i have installed bit torrent: 2 hours connected at the average speed of 50k (on 150k connection)
i have even tryed two download at the same time (32 and 64 bit) but the speed decrease :( :(
what's wrong (i have read the faq and set the true port rule on the router)?
thx
Sometimes you just have to be patient. I downloaded from a torrenet last night. For the first couple hours it only downloaded at 10k to 50k. By the time the 2nd CD ISO was being downloaded the speed ranged from 100k to 480k.

[twaites]

Will the new Fedora Core 4 work with the ATI 9200? Does it have those new drivers?

[justincataldo]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay! :)

[Altered]

here you guys go, should be a good speed.

http://www.csmop.com/FC4

tell me if you have any problems

regetting the dvdiso, bear with me, it will be back soon

[DirtyLude]

here you guys go, should be a good speed.

http://www.csmop.com/FC4

tell me if you have any problems
The DVD iso is protected. I get this message.

"Hey you! XX.XXX.XX.XX, what the hell were you thinking? /FC4/FC4-i386-DVD.iso is illegal for people like you."

[Altered]

hmm let me look into it

[littledeer1974]

My bitComet is slow
UL 34KB/s
DL 80KB/s

how to make it faster :(

[Altered]

littledeer -- put your upload rate lower, try 15-20

[egr]

did someone have luck with ATI drivers? when I try to compile fglrx module I get:
ATI module generator V 2.0
==========================
initializing...
cleaning...
patching 'highmem.h'...
assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x...
doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
ln: `./libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4': File exists
make: *** [libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4] Error 1
build failed with return value 2

[twaites]

did someone have luck with ATI drivers? when I try to compile fglrx module I get:
ATI module generator V 2.0
==========================
initializing...
cleaning...
patching 'highmem.h'...
assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x...
doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
ln: `./libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4': File exists
make: *** [libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4] Error 1
build failed with return value 2
What kind of ATI card do u have?

[littledeer1974]

littledeer -- put your upload rate lower, try 15-20

thank you Altered
I set it to 10
and upload just get up to 30-40

still a little slow
I just want to take my new FC4 back to home and install it ,tonight,but my downloader tell me it needs 19 hours

just wanna kill someone

[sailor]

ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/
is really moving...got all 4 iso's in about 1 3/4 hours

[dnar]

And Gnumeric!

[deuch]

Download the DVD iso in 1h and 12 min :-) on a french sever :-)

deuch

[dnar]

when will yum start working?

and why has xmms been removed from FC4 altogether.

And ABIWord as well
You will find xmms, Abiword, Gnumeric, d4x etc in the extras repo.

[robghealey]

when will yum start working?

and why has xmms been removed from FC4 altogether.

And ABIWord as well

Xmms has been moved to the repos, but you can get it....add these lines to you yum.conf file or add a new file to your /etc/yum.repos.d folder

[extras]
name=extras
baseurl=http://fedoraproject.com/extras/4/i386
enabled=1

and then type yum install xmms*

[egr]

I have ATI Radeon 9800 SE

[AMD-Z]

writing in fedora right now...
upgraded from FC2, the upgrade took about 60 min and no mistake...

Great! :D

[Teudimundo]

How good is to "update"??? I've a FC3 with a lot of packages taken from repositories around (such as dag et similia). Should I trust the updating process or should I just install from scratch?

[jgionet]

How good is to "update"??? I've a FC3 with a lot of packages taken from repositories around (such as dag et similia). Should I trust the updating process or should I just install from scratch?

personally I always rather backup everything I need to keep and do a fresh install. you'll probably avoid many headaches!! :p

[mnisay]

i use the same source ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/

been downloading since yesterday :( now almost finish with the last ISO

will burn immediately and install later this evening...

[yanik]

Want to speed up installation while saving 3 cds (not to mention possible bad media)?

Just burn the first one and at the boot prompt type : linux askmethod

Chose hard disk and point to the partition and dir containing the isos. Works very fast and you don't have to swap cds.

One thing tho, has anyone succeded on install FC4 on reiserfs ? I tried booting with "linux selinux=0 reiserfs". It installed fine, but it would boot afterward. ext3 is so slow...

[GMalenko1]

I dont know if anyone else ran into this problem. But I'm trying to install on another computer and everytime I try to run the installer in the graphical mode, I run into some run time errors. I'm running it in text mode now and it says "There was an error installing coreutils-5.2.1-48. This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your nstall will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your intall again". Any suggestions on how to fix this? I know its not any of the errors that are mentioned above

[iZi]

Is there anyway you can just upgrade using yum? and if there is what is the correct command? :)

[yanik]

I dont know if anyone else ran into this problem. But I'm trying to install on another computer and everytime I try to run the installer in the graphical mode, I run into some run time errors. I'm running it in text mode now and it says "There was an error installing coreutils-5.2.1-48. This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your nstall will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your intall again". Any suggestions on how to fix this? I know its not any of the errors that are mentioned above
Yeah I got that one quite a few times (wasn't coreutlis tho...) before doing an install from disk instead of cdroms. I don't really get it, since my cdroms all passed the test. My only guess it after some time, my cdrom must overheat or something... Do you have a separate partition available?

[super_teds]

Hey Guys
how do i wack another partion onto my HD. i want to install without burning all the iso's to disk as yanik suggested. i presume i do have to have a seperate partiotion from the one i'm installing on?

[rkl]

On my Acer Aspire T140 (Athlon 64, Nforce 4 motherboard), I have to add "pci=noacpi noapic" when running the installer (i.e. "linux pci=noacpi noapic" after booting the DVD). However, the /etc/grub.conf written out during the install only included "noapic" on the end of the kernel boot line (the "pci=noacpi" option was dropped) and my Acer duly failed to boot properly after the install.

Yes, I used grub's "e" option to temporarily edit it in and then "b" to boot from it and once up and running, I edited /etc/grub.conf to permanently add the option, but it looks like this is a bug with FC4 to me (I seem to remember that FC3 and even FC4 test releases properly carried over this option). I'm wondering if I'll have to report this one in Bugzilla...

As for FC4, well I've played with the FC4 test releases and they've left in some of the annoyances in FC4 final compared to FC2/FC3 stiil:

* Two panels in GNOME - ugh ! Baaad user design - mouse to the top of screen for some things, to the bottom for others - mucho mouse travel. Got rid of the top panel and increased the bottom panel to 48 pixels - why are the panels so vertically challenged by default - the icons are tiny in them !

* Hiddenmenu by default when grub boots, which I hate - the really nice menu listing your OS'es (with your preferred default selected) is now tucked away for no-one to see (unless you remember to press a key really quickly).

* Still starting too many services by default and FC4 continues the trend of more services firing up than the previous release. On a desktop machine (I selected the "Workstation" option), *who* needs to run atd, acpid, gpm (only used by the rare few techies who like to use the mouse at the barebones fullscreen console!) or cpuspeed?

* slocate no longer works at all by default - yep, one of the handiest command-line tools to find a filename has now been disabled unless you hack around with a config file to re-enable the updatedb stuff.

* No 3D games shipped on the install media !! Is this the first time that a Fedora release hasn't had any 3D games on the CDs or DVDs?

* Whilst I agree that some stuff should be moved to Extras because it duplicates functionality of a superior package, I think they went a bit banzai with it. I mean, xmms is *the* audio player to use on Linux (because it supports so many formats, although a lot of those via third-party plug-ins that can't be shipped with Fedora) and yet it's been dumped to Extras and yet the inferior rhythmbox remains. And I'm sure a case could be made for others (e.g. those 3D games like bzflag and Tux Racer for instance - what's the "equivalent" of those on the install media?).

[marko]

* slocate no longer works at all by default - yep, one of the handiest command-line tools to find a filename has now been disabled unless you hack around with a config file to re-enable the updatedb stuff.
....


I'm just the opposite, I pretty much hate slocate, it's one of the first things I
hack anacron to stop from running. They must have gotten lots of feedback
against it.

Mark

[rkl]

I'm just the opposite, I pretty much hate slocate, it's one of the first things I
hack anacron to stop from running.

It always gets me that Anaconda gives you the choice of "Desktop" (where running slocate is probably not wanted, since it's all supposed to be point'n'drool) and "Workstation" (where slocate is desirable) and yet - like many other things that should differentiate the 2 options - Anaconda has always done the same thing with slocate (up to FC3 = enabled, FC4 = disabled) for both setups.

Similarly, the set of default icons on the task bars should be different for "Desktop" vs. "Workstation". The former should be GUI eye-candy icons (Word processor, graphical text editor, music player etc.) and the latter should be more techy stuff (including a terminal icon, which is ludicrously missing from *all* FC desktop panels by default !).

And they should bring back the "Laptop" option, so that stuff like "pcmcia", "cpuspeed" and "acpid" are only run on laptops and not on desktops/servers where they're not needed !

[aljo]

Did I hear right that there's no x-terminal in FC4? Can't be right surely? Or am I the only one who loves messing in terminal - the way I've learnt most of what I know about linux :)

(Haven't yet downloaded latest incarnation, but will do soon as I get time!)

[rkl]

Did I hear right that there's no x-terminal in FC4? Can't be right surely? Or am I the only one who loves messing in terminal - the way I've learnt most of what I know about linux :)

No, I said there's no Terminal *icon* present by default in the task bar of GNOME (and probably KDE) in the last several major releases of Fedora Core, not even if you select the "Workstation" option in the installer. I think this is very poor indeed myself, but you can add the icon or just choose "Open Terminal" when you right click on the background.

[GravityFX3]

To let everybody know!

I downloaded the dvd version of FC4
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/iso/FC4-i386-DVD.iso

Downloaded @ 400/kbps
Installed in 40min.
Now using without any problem! Works good, so if any body needs to download and install this image! Go for it, worked great for me!

[rkl]

Having installed the x86_64 release of Fedora Core 4 final on my Athlon 64 box, I've been having a heck of a time trying to get Java applets working inside of Firefox. I've tried various combos of Firefox and Sun's Java in 32-bit and 64-bit incarnations and it's driving me mad. Yes, I've been soft-linking to the appropriate libjavaplugin_oji.so from within /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but it just doesn't seem to work.

I get the feeling that FC4's use of gcc 4 might have something to do with this, but I'm stumped (and the FAQ at www.fedorafaq.org doesn't even say a word about FC4...). The releases notes with FC4 are equally vague - "get the RPM from jpackage.org" (like which one - there's over 1,500 there !) or "unpack Sun Java into /opt" [why not /usr/java where the Sun Java RPM installs into ?!].

So anyone got any clues? I can't be the only one stuck on this!

[Justbill]

I downloaded the

FC4-i386-disc1 thru 4 iso , and cannot get it to install on my computer. Should I have downloaded the
FC4-i386-SRPM-disc1 thru4 , or what? I sure didn't have any problems when I installed FC3 on this machine!
FC4 acts like it is locking up while it is trying to boot the kernel. I have never tried to install from a dvd image, I do have a dvd burner on this machine, but I have never burned a dvd. Any suggestions for this amature
Thanks in advance
Justbill

Compaq Presario SR1426NX
2.93 Ghz Pentium 4
512 MB PC2-3200 DDR2 SDRAM
160GB Serial ATA Hard drive

[dnar]

Having installed the x86_64 release of Fedora Core 4 final on my Athlon 64 box, I've been having a heck of a time trying to get Java applets working inside of Firefox. I've tried various combos of Firefox and Sun's Java in 32-bit and 64-bit incarnations and it's driving me mad. Yes, I've been soft-linking to the appropriate libjavaplugin_oji.so from within /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but it just doesn't seem to work.

I get the feeling that FC4's use of gcc 4 might have something to do with this, but I'm stumped (and the FAQ at www.fedorafaq.org doesn't even say a word about FC4...). The releases notes with FC4 are equally vague - "get the RPM from jpackage.org" (like which one - there's over 1,500 there !) or "unpack Sun Java into /opt" [why not /usr/java where the Sun Java RPM installs into ?!].

So anyone got any clues? I can't be the only one stuck on this!
Search for my thread on this.

[Luke Dawson]

What kind of ATI card do u have?

I don't think it has anything to do with the card - I get exactly the same problem, and from what I've read, it's a 2.6.12 + GCC4 problem. I don't think I've EVER seen an ATI driver compile out of the box. Guess I should be used to it by now.

There are a few patches floating around there. For example, here (http://www.rage3d.org/board/showthread.php?t=33818941). I'm yet to get it working though.

[cruiseoveride]

u guys are all bastards
im downloading a 7kbs and im xtatic
another 121hr to goo
is there a src dvd out...
and wats this fedora-ds all about, is it a gui to control ldap?

[bitrain]

I downloaded the

FC4-i386-disc1 thru 4 iso , and cannot get it to install on my computer. Should I have downloaded the
FC4-i386-SRPM-disc1 thru4 , or what? I sure didn't have any problems when I installed FC3 on this machine!
FC4 acts like it is locking up while it is trying to boot the kernel. I have never tried to install from a dvd image, I do have a dvd burner on this machine, but I have never burned a dvd. Any suggestions for this amature
Thanks in advance
Justbill

Compaq Presario SR1426NX
2.93 Ghz Pentium 4
512 MB PC2-3200 DDR2 SDRAM
160GB Serial ATA Hard driveThe cds you download are the right ones, did you check the sha1sum?

[Justbill]

what exactly is the "sha1sum", how so I check it, and what am I looking for?

when I try to install fc4, I get the main menu, I press "Enter" to install in graphical mode, it begins to boot like normal, and then I get this:
[<c01202eb>] panic+0x13b/0x1b0
[<c0416b4d>] mount_block_root+0x8d/0/xf0
[<c041bcc9>] mount_root+0x39/0x50
[<c01002a0>] init+0x0/0xf0
[<c0416d1e>] prepare_namespace+0x3e/0xf0120
[<c0100357>] init x 0xb7/0xf0
[<c01012b1>] kernel_thread_helper +0x5/0x14
[<c014d737>] softlockup_tick +0x87/0x160
[<c0108a93>] timer_interupt +0x63/0x170
[<c014d9b3>] handle_IRQ+0xbc/0x90
[<c014da9c>] __do_IRQ+0xbc/0x2e0
[<c0105a81>] do_IRQ+0x51/0x90
===========================
[<c0103c4a>] common_interupt+0x1a/0x20
[<012007b>] set_personality+0x9/0x20
[<c0112449>] delay_pmtmr+0x9/0x20
[<c0208c89>] __delay+0x13b/0x1b0
[<c01202eb>] panic+0x13b/0x1b0
[<c0416b4d>] mount_block_root+0x8d/-xf0
[<c0416cc9>] mount_root+0x39/0x50
[<c01002a0>] init+0x0/0xf0
[<c0416d1e>] prepare_namespace+0x3e/0x120
[<c0100357>] init+0xb7/0xf0
[<01012b1>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0x14


This is the point at which it locks up, I can't turn it off, I have to disconnect the power to shut it down and then restart.

Justbill

[smoover]

Hi!
Same for me, with the i386-DVD-iso. PC locks, have to turn it off! I checked the sha1sum and it was correct. The same thing happens if I "linux mediacheck" at the 'boot:' prompt. :/

[bitrain]

sha1 gives back a line of hexadecimal characters which is unique for each file (or it should be). info: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=59076&highlight=sha1sum+md5sum

[tejas]

sha1 gives back a line of hexadecimal characters which is unique for each file (or it should be)[/url]Not entirely true, although mostly correct

It is OK if more than one file has the same sha1sum (it will, as there are finite possible sha1sums)

however, it must be impractical to INTENTIONALLY create two files with the same sha1sum

This was md5sum's failing

[surfingdude41]

I know this may sound stupid, but if I have a pentium 4, do i get the i386 or the x86-64 release.

Cheers

[dnar]

I know this may sound stupid, but if I have a pentium 4, do i get the i386 or the x86-64 release.

Cheers
i386 mate.

[rkl]

It looks like my failure to get Java applets to work in (x86_64) FC4 wasn't an isolated case - someone else (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160543) had exactly the same problem as me (right down to the contents of the trace file left in the home directory). This one bug has actually driven me back to Fedora Core 3 at the moment (because I run a lottery chat room that uses Java) - very frustrating!

[gablaxian]

Can any of you tell me whether they fixed the stack size problem in the final release of FC4?

If i'm to use this OS rather than FC2, i need to be able to install ndiswrapper to get my wifi card working, and that 4K stack size is annoying the hell out of me. it's bad enough they don't supply the kernel source anymore - so now I need to connect the internet to get the source in order to compile the ndiswrapper module that allows me to run my wifi card so i can connect to the internet... which means more time in windows! aaarrrgghhh...

I tried compiling my own version of the kernel to fix it, but that didn't turn out very well...

So if someone could find out if the issue has been fixed, or if there's a nice tutorial on how to get around it, then it would be much appreciated.

[shardservant]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to say I was a little disappointed with Fedora Core 4 final
release.

After installing FC4 on my Dell 4500 2.4Ghz system, I started getting
white noise generation on my sound card.

This was fixed by disabling one of the en switches in the sound mixer
but I never had this issue before on FC1 through FC4 test3.

I was also unable to get VMware v5 to configure properly.

The RPM installed fine but configuring it via the vmware-config.pl tool
generated errors on creation of the bridged network.

VMware is a must for some of the tasks I need to do so this was kind of
a killer.

Lastly, although not a Fedora issue, I was dissappointed that the DAG
repository did not offer FC4 specific RPM packages for mplayer,
xmms-mp3, etc.

Until these issues get resolved, I will regretfully have to stay at FC3.

If anyone has advice on how to get around these things, please let me know.

I was pleased with FC4 Test 3 and would really like to adopt the new
version.

[colney]

Sorry to hear folks are having some trouble with FC4. So some of you will not take this very well, but I was able to get the i386 DVD @ ~300 on DSL (2.5 hrs roughly) and installed clean (not an update) in a little more that 40 min on a 3GHz 1GB PowerServer (MicroCenter proprietary brand PC box) hda 200GB NTFS w/XP and hdb 20GB (5 fat32 as a swap/backup and 15 LINUX!). It found everything except the scanner half of my Epson CX5200 and even found my daughters Digital Blue USB 2.0 camcorder. I'm probably not advanced enough to find some of the deep tweaky type bugs ya'll are coming across but I'm sure by the time I find them there will be some industrious IT pro will have beaten me to the fix. Good luck to all!
cjo :)

[cruiseoveride]

i use vmware quite extensively,
and shardservant says it doesnt work?
i dont think fedora 4 is for me then

i think i will put it up on a test machine first, my major reason for the move is the gnome-2.10 thats the only reason, nothing else

[peters]

I figured out the VMWare 5 problem and wrote a Howto... I found out later that a few others had figured it out but they did not write a Howto...

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=284950#post284950

[cruiseoveride]

actually i am using that vmware-any-any thing in fedora 3 as well
anyways
thanks peters

[cruiseoveride]

they removed netconfig ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
fc4 sucks
i am moving back to fc3

[raharris]

. . . you wouldn't be the first --

I have FC3 on a partitioned Dell 700m laptop -- the software came attached to one of those doorstop books. It didn't load completely and I'd prefer to run FC4, but can't seem to boot from the cd.

I've downloaded the four images -- FC4-i386-SRPMS-disk1.iso, etc. My understanding is that I load the first image (the iso file named above) set the BIOS to boot from the CD and let 'er rip. This I've done but the computer won't boot from that file; it skips booting from the CD drive and goes right into GRUB.

Am I missing something big here? I've tried extracting the iso file and running that, so the same effect. I've looked over the documentation until my eyes glaze over, and can't help but think that I'm doing something wrong. Any ideas?

thanks, RAH

[peters]

raharris, what you should be using are the "FC4-i386-disc1.iso" files. Have you burned them to CD? Is that what you meant to say? Or are you really using the SRPMS discs? You could also make a floppy--http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/images/diskboot.img

CD should work, however.

[peters]

Woah, nevermind--I don't think the floppy boot is an option anymore...

[tejas]

They removed netconfig, but added text support for
system-config-network

So it works out in the end

[raharris]

raharris, what you should be using are the "FC4-i386-disc1.iso" files. Have you burned them to CD? Is that what you meant to say? Or are you really using the SRPMS discs?

The download site has both the SRPMS isos and the ones you mention. I don't know the difference, and because the SRPMS's were listed first I downloaded them. I'll download the set you mention and give that a try, but while I'm doing that can someone please tell me the difference between
FC4-SRPMS-i386-disc1.iso
and
FC4-i386-disc1.iso
??

Thanks -- RAH
(Robert)

[jsimmonds]

I believe SRPMS are the Fedora Core 4 Source, you do not want this one.

Just

FC4-i386-disc1.iso
FC4-i386-disc2.iso
FC4-i386-disc3.iso
FC4-i386-disc4.iso
fedora rescue on too :B

[kalpana]

Downloading FC4 traffic is too still i donot success download FC4 for AMD 64 !!!

[raharris]

Thank you jsimmonds. I hate to be a weenie, but I wish Fedora would have mentioned that on
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/iso/
or on the preceeding page or, bog forbid, in the documentation . . . .
;-)
RAH

[peters]

Perhaps they assume that you will download all of them?? SRPMS is definitely "Source RPMs"--I do not even think they are bootable. There is an installation Howto out there, I was looking at it last night..

[cruiseoveride]

like anyone uses system-config-network
it never works for me espeacially with virtual interfaces eth0:0,1,2 etc
while netconfig worked beautifully
also the new transparent panel crashes when u log off and login in again when u have set it to be transparent
and the screensavers are missing
xmms is missing
the version of evolution is unstable with ldap contact lists, -- i had to replace with older version
takes longer to log on -- almost like a delay
totem -- always crashes -- i replaced with totem-xine
they removed the vi = vim alias
openoffice-base -- very unstaable
ati drivers stopped working
smartlink drivers stopped working

and i have only been running it for 4hrs

[tejas]

Painfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was using system-config-network in the GUI to manage virtual devices. I don't know what to do for text only

xmms was pretty simple to set up, so it wasn't on my top 10 probs

I still have the vi=vim alias. Actually, I dislike that, cuz I liked vi better, gave me a 'raw' feeling (only editor in /bin, as far as I know, rather than /usr/bin)

And isn't that picture of yours (avatar) carmen sandiago? (old tv/comp gam character from 10 years ago. As in Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?)

[cruiseoveride]

no its close but not carmen
and i want to like gnome, but it suuuuckkkkkkkkksssss
kde 3.4 kick ass

[snoze]

I agree wid u but in fedora, try to play two media player same time using KDE :D u will never find sound prob in gnome.

[peters]

I don't use system-config-network, the only network configurator I've gotten to work reliably is vi and service network {start|stop} ... Is the transparent panel a Gnome thing? Screensavers are in Fedora Extras. Ditto for xmms . I use Thunderbird instead of evolution. The logon delay is probably a reverse lookup that Gnome is doing. Remember what happens if you don't have a net connection? It says "unable to find host data, login anyways or retry?" Never used totem, I just use straight up xine. No comment on the vi, openoffice, ati, or smartlink .. Perhaps there is help for those at the Livna repository?

[snoze]

I still have the vi=vim alias. Actually, I dislike that, cuz I liked vi better, gave me a 'raw' feeling (only editor in /bin, as far as I know, rather than /usr/bin)
Original VI is not free while vim is free. I read it somewhere!!! like IBM copyright issue with cp

[snoze]

just curious to know if you guys have any good experience with kate.
I try to use it n found it more interesting than vi, though i am a vi geek :p

[tejas]

and i want to like gnome, but it suuuuckkkkkkkkksssss
kde 3.4 kick assI hear you dude!!!!!!

Kate is kinda nice because you can run a terminal below it.

This is useful for compiling cpp and making shell scripts

But this is a programming tool, not really a text editor.

Plus, there are millions of fancy-shmanchy editors. But how many text based, no mouse, hard to use, powerfull text editor, that is there in Any UNIX, whether RedHat, Debian, or even Caldera from SCO. Yes, I like vi.

I think it is open source. Any lawsuit would have surely failed. Use this space to correct me, if I'm wrong,

And please do not start saying 'I like emacs' over here. Go to # fedora on freenode. They seem to be arguing 'vi or emacs' 24 hrs a day (at least whenever I log in)

[cruiseoveride]

the transparent is a gnome feature
when u make the pnael transparent
u have to right click, properties,background,solid color...
the anaconda is also brokern, the
pkgorder
genhdlist
buildinstall
i think i will move back to fc3 and develop for fc4 :)
in terms of speed, lots of people say its faster, NOTTTTTT
i timed it today at the office
i formated a new hard disk installed fc3 on one machine and fc4 on the other, exactly identical machines
same boot up speed, +_ 3s
also the gnome menu entries are buggy when installing new soft
they mostly have missing icons, and it fixes itself after a few reboots

[cruiseoveride]

and also creating entries on the desktop, seem to be missing for aat least 10mins
or until a reboot
try download something with firefox and save it to ur desktop

[cruiseoveride]

I hear you dude!!!!!!

Kate is kinda nice because you can run a terminal below it.

This is useful for compiling cpp and making shell scripts

But this is a programming tool, not really a text editor.

Plus, there are millions of fancy-shmanchy editors. But how many text based, no mouse, hard to use, powerfull text editor, that is there in Any UNIX, whether RedHat, Debian, or even Caldera from SCO. Yes, I like vi.
)
vi is really the best
i like the vi improved the gui one
i think its xvim or something like that
i think vim can compete with M$ word 2003
all the same feature less spell check

[snoze]

try download something with firefox and save it to ur desktop

Okie, after that right click on desktop and click on clean up by name :D

[cruiseoveride]

i have that problem with 4 machine, which are on heavy load throughout the day

[kionysus]

What kind of ATI card do u have?

I am having the same problem and am using an ATI Radeon 9600 w/ 128 Meg in my laptop.

a simple listing of the directory does not show that file in existance!

any ideas?

[kionysus]

What kind of ATI card do u have?
I am having the same problem and am using an ATI Radeon 9600 w/ 128 Meg in my laptop.

a simple listing of the directory does not show that file in existance!

any ideas?

[fatbear]

Is Fedora Core 4 suited for production server use (handling active customers) and supporting full LAMP software, J2EE software, Darwin streaming software, etc.? If not, which version of the Fedora Core would you suggest using for production use?

Thanks,
Steve Amerige
Fat Bear Incorporated
Small Business Development
www.fatbear.com

P.S. I'm not considering Red Hat's Enterprise Linux editions (e.g., AS). I'm only considering totally free OS's such as Fedora, FreeBSD, etc. I'm using RH9 on all of my production servers (with no complaints at all) and am trying to decide whether I "upgrade" to Fedora Core XXX, stay with RH9, or move to FreeBSD or some other free OS that can efficiently and reliably work as a fully-loaded LAMP/J2EE/Streaming/LotsMore server.

[bitrain]

Is Fedora Core 4 suited for production server use (handling active customers) and supporting full LAMP software, J2EE software, Darwin streaming software, etc.? If not, which version of the Fedora Core would you suggest using for production use?lamp yes, don't know about the rest, I never used them. But since fc is bleeding edge you might want to go with freebsd or debian, altough there are major sites that run on fedora (search the forum for their names).