View Full Version : dialup or broadband?
mhelios
2004-02-15, 09:59 PM CST
As ug_the_caveman has expressed his major discontent with his lack of "fat pipe", I'll start a poll to see what percentage of users are lucky enough to have broadband and those poor souls still stuck on screechy old dialup lines.
Post your comments on speeds and access technologies if you want (i.e. cable *DSL, satellite, TI:eek: etc.)
In my neck of the woods, I use cable broadband which is much faster and cheaper than the alternatives offered here.
I usually average speeds in the range of 1600 - 4000 kbps (150 - 600kBps). depending on the location and load.
Ug
2004-02-16, 03:40 AM CST
*cringes*
The ironic thing is, I was one of the first people in the country to have a 2mbps line! Those were the days, but now I'm on a 56K modem...
My Dad works for British Telecom, the telecommunications company and we managed to get a trial of a 2mbps ADSL line for two years. The great thing about it was that BT paid us to have it, that was really sweet. But since then, we've moved from that house and so have got stuck on 56K.
Currently my connection is so poor, that that XFree86 upgrade via apt is a dream. :(
mhelios
2004-02-16, 06:05 AM CST
Currently my connection is so poor, that that XFree86 upgrade via apt is a dream.
Well, it even took me a while for all those updates. Phew, I feel sorry for Mike A. Harris, RedHat's XFree86 developer!
Ug
2004-02-16, 06:21 AM CST
70 odd mb's worth of stuff afterall!
ewdi
2004-02-18, 05:47 PM CST
i know what u mean, i connected to the internet with 1.4k in east timor when i was there in 1999 :p
Bana
2004-02-18, 10:00 PM CST
I get a nice 150-400kB/sec. on my cable although I can't wait till my house gets its own Individual fiber line :p That will be bliss...
mhelios
2004-02-19, 01:27 AM CST
Originally posted by Bana
I get a nice 150-400kB/sec. on my cable although I can't wait till my house gets its own Individual fiber line :p That will be bliss...
Fibre! drools* :eek: How in the world can you afford that. :(
Ug
2004-02-19, 06:28 AM CST
Stop! Stop! This is torture....
Lindy
2004-02-20, 03:08 PM CST
Ah dialup how I do loath thee! I'm in the same boat ug. My local telco's equipment can't be more than one generation removed from manual switch boards, and twisted pair analog
lines.
Ug
2004-02-20, 04:13 PM CST
Thank god someone else like me, but your in America?
I thought all of America had broadband?
Lindy
2004-02-20, 04:25 PM CST
>I thought all of America had broadband?
Only if the "broad" is your SO and the "band" is her wedding ring. In the case of my ex, yea, everybody had her.
Ug
2004-02-20, 04:41 PM CST
Woah! :eek:
jdl
2004-02-20, 04:52 PM CST
I'm on a 600k cable modem with NTL.
99% of the time it's great; downloading the KDE3.2 stuff this afternoon took about half an hour :)
Ug
2004-02-20, 04:54 PM CST
$£!@!&#
DaDevil
2004-02-21, 02:40 AM CST
Since everybody is having a good time tormenting the poor guy and making him jealous of their internet connection I will also join in the bandwagon. :D
I have a 4 Mbps leased line at the office. And in this office there are only 15 people. So downloading ISO's take me something like oh 30 min tops and this is on a bad day :D. I don't even bother with any download manager no wget nothing just right click and save in Mozilla. Never had a broken download. Ahhh Bliss.
And at home I have an ADSL connection but I do have to admit this is slower than the usual ADSL's I only get a 512 Kbps download and 128 Kbps upload. But on the other hand never need to use it since my addiction and all download needs are fulfilled at the office albeit I am stuck on it now since holidays till Tuesday :cool:
genci
2004-02-21, 04:27 AM CST
Hmm ... well I have more than dialup, but less than broadband (technically) @ 128 kb/s ADSL - about 3x the speed of dialup. With this I get unlimited National traffic but a capped International data allowance of 10 gigs per month.
Now, if I was to go for true broadband ADSL @ 256 kb/s I am allowed a generous 500 MB per month total (national + international) data cap for just under the same price I am currently paying.
You can work out how many months it would take me to download the latest Fedora ISO's considering they are now a 4 CD set at 256 kb/s broadband speeds :rolleyes:
Speed isn't everything ug_the_caveman :p
Ug
2004-02-21, 07:15 AM CST
It is!
serpico
2004-02-21, 07:46 AM CST
I'm on cable as well and usually get b/w 150kb/s-400kb/s. Some Canadian communications companies have announced 4mb/s (sp?) service, so that would be very nice but probably expensive. I havn't used dial-up in maybe 8 years.
Hope you broadband dreams come true soon for you. :)
mhelios
2004-02-21, 08:20 AM CST
My local Cable node is relatively uncluttered. So, for the past three years I've enjoyed quite fast speeds. I rarely get anything under 100kBps. :) I was one of the first customers to use Cable once they installed the Cable network to our street.
Ug
2004-02-21, 08:33 AM CST
In England you have to campaign for broadband or you don't get it. BT have set us a trigger level of 500 people in my area to sign up, before they contemplate installing it at the exchange. Its a very rural area, and most people don't have computers as it is.
Currently we've got about 260 people signed up, but thats taken 2 years!
cmoore18
2004-02-21, 09:00 AM CST
I use Roadrunner via cable modem. Usually get 384k - 512k down and 128k up. Suites my needs. I can usally get iso within 30 45 minutes.
Lindy
2004-02-22, 10:53 PM CST
This is disgusting ug! I hate when those with broadband lord it over us dialup peons. Maybe we ought to start an evil rumor like prolonged use of broadband will diminish male "capacity".
Ug
2004-02-23, 04:37 AM CST
Too much porn and all that eh? ;)
cmoore18
2004-02-23, 04:14 PM CST
Geez Lindy, I'm already diminished; I'm 57 years old.
:confused:
Lindy
2004-02-24, 08:53 PM CST
>Geez Lindy, I'm already diminished; I'm 57 years old.
Check some of your spam I'm sure there's something there for you at a low,low price :-) . As a 40something I'm starting to slouch in that direction myself, shot of B-12 anybody?
coyote
2004-02-25, 02:16 AM CST
Don't know if this is a wise first post... but...
Your average download speed is:
5728 Kbps (Kilo bits per second) or 716 KB/s (Kilo Bytes per second) or 5.59375 Mbit/s (Mega bits per second).
I'm on cable in Australia.
Ug
2004-02-25, 02:19 AM CST
This thread is really starting to make me feel young.
clive_long
2004-02-25, 03:15 PM CST
Nildram 500
20:1 contention
File downloads rated by Windows as between 40kbps to 60 kbps tops. I used this to download the Fedora ISOs - did one per day - guess they took a couple of hours each whilst I was out.
Link to NetGear router using 802.11b wireless (10 MBPs-ish) - signal strength and quality does vary for no known reason.
Very painful to go back to dial-up - I would only use that to read Web mail if I was stuck.
HTH
Clive
Ug
2004-02-25, 03:32 PM CST
Originally posted by clive_long
Very painful to go back to dial-up Tell me about it.
Lindy
2004-02-25, 10:01 PM CST
There may be hope yet ug! I don't know if there's been any talk of it in the UK, but over here they've (the FCC) been fooling around with the notion of doing broadband over the power lines.
Ug
2004-02-26, 12:41 AM CST
Lol,We just need to get another 150 people to register their support for it in my area then we'll get it.
mhelios
2004-02-26, 03:44 AM CST
Originally posted by coyote
Don't know if this is a wise first post... but...
Your average download speed is:
5728 Kbps (Kilo bits per second) or 716 KB/s (Kilo Bytes per second) or 5.59375 Mbit/s (Mega bits per second).
I'm on cable in Australia.
coyote,
How in the world are you attaining such incredible rates? What, you're the only one on your local node? rofl. What did you use to produce those statistics?
At this (http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/) site, I was reported at 574.1 kbps... At this (http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/) site I reached 1013 kbps! And on pcpitstop....676kbps
Ug
2004-02-26, 06:06 AM CST
Originally posted by DaDevil
And at home I have an ADSL connection but I do have to admit this is slower than the usual ADSL's Therein lies my consolation.
DaDevil
2004-02-26, 09:53 PM CST
Ah before you feel the effects of consolation let me tell you what I meant by slower than normal ADSL's. The advertised speed of the connection is 512kbps download and 128 upload but what I usually achieve is 300 kbps download and upload who cares don't upload so much.
So before the consolation washes over you allow me to bring you down to earth :D. 300 kbps is slow compared to what some of the other guys have advertised for ADSL. :D But still at least 6 time s faster than plain old dialup :D
coyote
2004-02-26, 10:52 PM CST
Originally posted by mhelios
coyote,
How in the world are you attaining such incredible rates? What, you're the only one on your local node? rofl. What did you use to produce those statistics?
At this (http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/) site, I was reported at 574.1 kbps... At this (http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/) site I reached 1013 kbps! And on pcpitstop....676kbps
mhelios,
I don't have any special optimisations. I'm on Optus cable in Kenmore, Brisbane and the test I quoted is hosted on Optus, so you'd expect it to be good.
I tried the tests you listed:
bandwidthplace: 1.3 Mega bits / sec
cnet: 1541 kilo bits / sec
the pitstop one requires some kind of subscription or login, being US, it would be slow anyway
Ug
2004-02-27, 04:42 AM CST
Originally posted by DaDevil
Ah before you feel the effects of consolation let me tell you what I meant by slower than normal ADSL's. The advertised speed of the connection is 512kbps download and 128 upload but what I usually achieve is 300 kbps download and upload who cares don't upload so much.
So before the consolation washes over you allow me to bring you down to earth :D. 300 kbps is slow compared to what some of the other guys have advertised for ADSL. :D But still at least 6 time s faster than plain old dialup :D I still have some so :p
DaDevil
2004-02-29, 07:30 PM CST
Ok ok be happy :D.
How about going and checking out this article ?
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,107372,00.asp
Although I am pretty sure these guys will need to iinstall some stuff on your pc and therefore it will work only under the "Other OS". :D
Ug
2004-03-02, 05:22 AM CST
Broadband may be coming to my area very very soon, I've just found out. My exchange now only needs another 63 people to register, before BT will have to upgrade our exchange. Which is fantastic. :D
Jman
2004-03-02, 10:37 PM CST
About 800 kbps down and 100 kps up with ADSL in the US. And it came to my house quicker than I anticipated.
Ug
2004-03-03, 03:40 AM CST
:(
mhelios
2004-03-03, 04:08 AM CST
I like the simpler name ug, since I'm too lazy too type out "ug_the_caveman" anyway. :p
Out of curiousity, how'd you come up with the name? It's quite ahhh, prehistoric..:D <g>
Ug
2004-03-09, 12:01 AM CST
Well, I used to play Total annihilation online. And it's made by Cavedog...
I used it when I was a Planetarion Admin (http://www.planetarion.com/[/url) many moons ago.
Ug
2004-03-09, 12:02 AM CST
Oh and I need 12 more people to register. :D
mhelios
2004-03-09, 06:35 AM CST
Well, there's a story behind every name..
12 more people...sheesh, tell them to upgrade now!
Ug
2004-03-09, 06:36 AM CST
But then i have to wait at least 6 months, for BT to upgrade the exchange. Just in time for me to leave, to go to university! :(
Ug
2004-03-13, 03:27 AM CST
We've now reached our trigger level, all we have to do is now wait for BT to enable our exchange and then at last i can have broadband.
Prometheus
2004-03-21, 10:23 AM CST
Bastards, all of u. I have cable, but its kinda like pseudo cable. I get like 380 kilo bits, and only like 50 kilobytes a sec. It took like 3-4 hours for each fedora iso. I envy u bastards that have megabit connections ,here theyre like 60 bucks american a month. Frickin ripoff, but no one else here offers broadband escept on a damn dish which sucks. On well, better than the 28.888 i used to get on dialup i spose.
PeTzZz
2004-03-21, 10:52 AM CST
1Mbit/s and about 15 users. On daytime I cannot download big files from ftp servers, because it would lower the connection down. So I have to make my downloads at night. 45-65kB/s then. But when I am downloading some smaller files on daytime then the speed is 30-45kB/s or something like that.
But I am happy with it :)
Ug
2004-03-21, 11:44 PM CST
Originally posted by Prometheus
Bastards, all of u. I have cable, but its kinda like pseudo cable. I get like 380 kilo bits, and only like 50 kilobytes a sec. It took like 3-4 hours for each fedora iso. I envy u bastards that have megabit connections ,here theyre like 60 bucks american a month. Frickin ripoff, but no one else here offers broadband escept on a damn dish which sucks. On well, better than the 28.888 i used to get on dialup i spose. $30? Damn thats cheap, that's like £17! Sign me up!
mhelios
2004-03-21, 11:51 PM CST
Originally posted by Ug
$30? Damn thats cheap, that's like £17! Sign me up!
Ug, $30?? I believe he said $60 ;)
Jeffa
2004-03-21, 11:58 PM CST
In Perth Western Australia, I get 1.5mbps for $89AU a month, thats 10gb... plus unlimted after that but shaped to 72kbps
Ug
2004-03-22, 12:38 AM CST
At least they don't do any such capping here in the UK.
Jeffa
2004-03-22, 12:57 AM CST
do you have unlimited? at what speed / price?
Ug
2004-03-22, 04:44 AM CST
It's about £20-30 a month here in the UK for a 512 kb/s ADSL line with no capping.
ghenry
2004-03-22, 05:13 AM CST
Has anyone got a 1MB connection yet?
Ug
2004-03-22, 05:31 AM CST
I used to have a 2MB connection, and I got paid to have it! Now I'm on 56K :(
Jeffa
2004-03-22, 05:49 AM CST
I'll be on 1mb as of 1/4 I did have it before downloaded at an average of 140-180kb
ghenry
2004-03-22, 06:35 AM CST
Later this year/next year, I think I'll get a leased 2MB line for the Business. Beat that.
Ug
2004-03-22, 07:12 AM CST
I used to be paid to have one.
Beaten. :p
Lindy
2004-03-23, 06:17 AM CST
Originally posted by ghenry
[B Beat that. [/B]
*Lindy 'beats" dialup modem with a baseball bat*
... Next! :D
Ug
2004-03-23, 07:19 AM CST
Oh I love my dial up. (not)
PeTzZz
2004-03-23, 08:25 AM CST
Originally posted by Ug
Oh I love my dial up.
Better than nothing. So you should be happy that there is such thing as dial up.
So, smile :D
Ug
2004-03-23, 08:34 AM CST
But I used to have 2mbps! :(
PeTzZz
2004-03-23, 11:55 AM CST
I understand that and feel sorry for you. You really need (and deserve) better connection.
But 2mbps - just dream to me. I cannot afford it yet. As Estonians say: "Poor undergraduate" :D
Ug
2004-03-23, 12:24 PM CST
Here they say, "student" :p/
PeTzZz
2004-03-23, 12:36 PM CST
Originally posted by Ug
Here they say, "student" :p/
Sorry, I didn't know how to tell that word in English, student or under..., there were many words that meant student in the dictionary and I didn't know what was the best to use. So I used that word, because dictionary gave one to one meaning to that word in Estonian. I know that student, but I thought that it means too many things...
OK, now I know :P
Ug
2004-03-23, 01:07 PM CST
Student is a general term. Undergraduate is a very specific term referring to people who are at university but haven't got a degree yet. Postgraduate is a student who is attending university and already has a degree, but they're studying further.
By and large, we use the word "student" in every day talk. We generally only use the other two words as a description of a student. i.e. "I'm an undergraduate student at the univeristy of nottingham". BUT just to confuse you, you can use them in the way you did. :p
Prometheus
2004-03-23, 01:15 PM CST
I wish i had a 2mb connection. The dumb cable company capps everybody who has less than that and limits the dl speed to like 50 kilobites a sec. Kinda sucks, and i did say 60 for a 2 mb connection. I pay 30 for like a 380 something connection. Better than the dialup i had for years though, I pity u Ug.
PeTzZz
2004-03-23, 01:51 PM CST
Ug, You didn't confuse me, I understand everything very well, now. I just thought that if I say poor student, you may think that that expression is used for those too who are studing in the high school.
But whatever, I just wanted to say, that I am not actually so bad in English.
Ug
2004-03-23, 01:57 PM CST
Yea, your English is very good. I'm bloody useless at foreign languages.
PeTzZz
2004-03-23, 02:24 PM CST
Now you made a compliment that I actually don't deserve, I think. But thanks anyway.
:)
---
Actually I pay about 3.5$ in a month and the speed is about 35-55kBps.
:D
Don't ask how :p
sailor
2004-03-23, 03:09 PM CST
I am using cable and get a 300-500 kb per second...sometimes it is even faster...depends on how many users in my "cell"
I don't think I could ever got back to dial up...
of course it costs me $45.00 per month....
Ug
2004-03-23, 03:28 PM CST
$45 is that it? That's pretty good value.
mhelios
2004-03-23, 03:39 PM CST
Well, my current plan is 12G unlimited for $69AU. It's speed limited after 12G, which I never reach anyway.
And if it makes you feel better, I average around 3Mbps. :p A bad day is about 800kbps. :( I have received occasional speeds up to 20Mbps!
I think I can say I surf comfortably. :D
Ug
2004-03-23, 03:42 PM CST
Yea but you're still capped. :p
Prometheus
2004-03-23, 04:19 PM CST
i dont know of anybody who isnt capped, at least not where i live
mhelios
2004-03-23, 05:52 PM CST
Originally posted by Ug
Yea but you're still capped. :p
Actually Ug, no it's not. :p It's full V12 twin turbo bandwidth until I reach 12G of usage. Then it's limited to a preset speed. I don't think this classifies as capped; especially since I never reach 12G of downloads. :)
sembazuru
2004-03-31, 10:12 AM CST
Originally posted by Ug
Thank god someone else like me, but your in America?
I thought all of America had broadband?
LOL..where did you hear that all Americans have broadband? No, I think the split is something like 80% dialup and 20% broadband, though I wouldn't want to be quoted on that. Broadband is increasing over here but the majority still use dial-up. With the exception of not being able to download large files in a reasonable time (like the free Linux distros!) I don't understand what the beef is with dial-up? I think it's fine, and can be had for under US $10 a month.
Ug
2004-03-31, 02:31 PM CST
Ever heard of the term, "need bandwidth"?
Bandwidth lets you play games, see more stuff on the net faster, stream music, stream video, download ISOs, update your system quickly. The list is endless.
Varkk
2004-03-31, 05:00 PM CST
Like Genci I have a DSL connection. However it is capped to 128 kilobit/s. Our line is capable of 7.8Mbit/s and sometimes the speed capping breaks and we get the full pipe yay. This connection is shared amongst my self and two others so 128k does feel very slow at times. We also have a data cap of 15gb a month international, and since virtually no-one hosts much linux stuff here in NZ (due to bandwidth costs being so stupidly high) most of the interesting stuff is international.
Oh and when I am at uni with my laptop I get a 100mbit connection, but have to pay for all data which flows through it which doesn't origniate from the universities own servers.
sembazuru
2004-04-01, 05:57 AM CST
Originally posted by Ug
Ever heard of the term, "need bandwidth"?
Bandwidth lets you play games, see more stuff on the net faster, stream music, stream video, download ISOs, update your system quickly. The list is endless.
Yes, Ug, I know about all that...it's just that I don't do most of it. Being able to update my system quickly would be a definite advantage, but for me (at least so far!) it doesn't justify the extra expense. There are introductory c ome-ons that give a lower rate for a few months, but I believe most broadband accounts in the US are around $40 a month, at least. Close to $500 a year! That's too steep for this cheap old fart.:D
proffit
2004-04-01, 06:50 AM CST
well I don't play alot of online games or stream music however I have broadband and I have to say I can't imagine living without it. One plus that isn't easily reconized is the fact that you are always online. This doesn't sound like a huge advantage but it really is. There is no waiting to dialup and log in. no tied up phonelines. You can also download huge files off of xmule or the internet and just let it sit for a week until they are done, even if you have a slow connection. You also find alot of uses for broadband once you get it. I wouldn't do half the things I do without broadband. Anyways I really enjoy it but I suppose it isn't for everyone. However if you use the net alot and have considered getting a second phone line jsut for the internet I would definately say you should get broadband instead. It has literally changed the way i use my computer (for better or worse)
Michael
Ug
2004-04-01, 07:10 AM CST
Originally posted by sembazuru
Yes, Ug, I know about all that...it's just that I don't do most of it. Being able to update my system quickly would be a definite advantage, but for me (at least so far!) it doesn't justify the extra expense. There are introductory c ome-ons that give a lower rate for a few months, but I believe most broadband accounts in the US are around $40 a month, at least. Close to $500 a year! That's too steep for this cheap old fart.:D
hehe, well I need bandwidth. Plus having a broadband connection would be cheaper than a 56K believe it or not!
Jman
2004-04-01, 08:06 AM CST
Ug's been browsing the forums pretty well over dialup. Then again, they aren't very bandwith intensive.
Except perhaps the screenshot section (http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/gallery.php?sectionid=1) :)
Ug
2004-04-01, 09:54 AM CST
I'm just determined. But the speed difference is very noteable.
Ug
2004-04-09, 05:20 AM CDT
I finally got my broadband date today. :D
I will have broadband by 11th August. (At Friggin' last. :D)
mhelios
2004-04-09, 06:05 AM CDT
Originally posted by Ug
I finally got my broadband date today. :D
I will have broadband by 11th August. (At Friggin' last. :D)
Sheesh, take your time... I've only had for 3 years. :D
Prometheus
2004-04-09, 07:08 AM CDT
ive only had it since september. Took that long before i finally convinced dad it was worth it.
sailor
2004-04-09, 07:57 AM CDT
I know you will love your broadband...whole CDs in 30 minutes!
(at least with the connection I have..speeds will vary)
I have heard of hacking you cable modem to increase your bandwith...although there could be legal issues, it does prove that cable modems are capped which is not quite what was advertized when I got it...customer service will tell you that your speed varies due to the number of users in your "cell"
see the following for more info..
http://tcniso.net/
I think I even read something about hacking your old standard 56k modems....
PorkChop
2004-04-14, 12:36 PM CDT
Ive got a 3.0Mbps down 768K up cable modem connection for FREE!!
I cant imagine going back to DU....yuck...!
I work for the ISP..:)
sailorsgh - I believe mosts ISP's have authentication at the modem termination level that prevents those *hacks* from working...
PorkChop
Thoreau
2004-04-14, 01:23 PM CDT
at home i'm on dail-up...*sigh*
but at work(university) T1 :) thank God i have a cd-burner.
Ug
2004-04-15, 05:33 AM CDT
Oh the wonderful dial up. How I roar around the net at 4.2 Kbps.
divali
2004-04-15, 08:27 AM CDT
What can I say. I'still on 56k here in england, one of the few lucky ones, and it's a bummer. Untill I go to work. Heh,heh.
divali.
sailor
2004-04-15, 08:36 AM CDT
I don't intend on trying it...my connection is plenty fast enough...
and I figured that it could be detected based on what i have read...but I wish the cable companies would be more up front with the statistics they provide as to the speed of the connection...it seems to me that they adjust the "caps" based upon their needs instead of the customers needs...my service improved quite abit after I moved and was in a different "cell"
(less users in my cell? or did they just open up the bandwith?
PorkChop
2004-04-15, 08:58 AM CDT
I just noticed your in SA..right down the road from me in San Marcos....in fact the ISP I work for has service there...I dont think I can/should mention the name..?
Anyway..we just increased speeds for all of our customers, and most that I have talked to are very pleased..I for one LOVE my cable modem service....
I know of a few people that tried the "hack" and didnt really see much of an improvement..
I wonder if anyone has tried that new Linksys router hack that was on /. recently,,,,? I'm curious if it adds neccesary functionality or just extra features....
PorkChop
sailor
2004-04-15, 09:05 AM CDT
tell me in a private message...i might switch if it is worthwhile...
I do have a linksys router...i'll have to look into that...
Jambi
2004-04-15, 09:41 AM CDT
My phone company told me that my area will *never* have broadband and the cable company did everything short of laughing at me! So...I Moved! How's that for drastic?
Ug
2004-04-15, 09:59 AM CDT
Not drastic enough. ;)
PorkChop
2004-04-15, 10:43 AM CDT
Sailorsgh, or anyone interested here is the Linksys articlke from /.
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/07/1936228&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=137&tid=185&tid=193
kimatrix
2004-05-10, 10:55 AM CDT
i love ADSL i got a sweet 2mbit down/ 340kbit up ( 220 kb download and 35 kb upload).
Adsl is great i can update and install what ever i want when ever i want frome my pc. don't neet to work with dics's and things like that.
Althoug my speed i great i would be more interested in a 1mbit down and up. (or higher afcorse)
Becose with 35kb you can't do nothing :S can't ewen transfer files frome my home to my lap when i am somwher els in the world :S
Ug
2004-05-10, 12:04 PM CDT
*rolls eyes*
coyote
2004-05-10, 04:52 PM CDT
You just get used to whatever you have very quickly. I was on dial up for years and couldn't see a need for anything else.
Now I often see speads over 5mbit and try another mirror if I'm not getting at least 2. Funny how your outlook changes.
I don't play games, download / stream music or video, I'm actually lucky to exceed 1 gig per month but I just like the convenience and couldn't even imagine using dsl now.
Drenon
2004-05-11, 08:31 PM CDT
Sadly - 56k still :( - however, pleased with my external modem relative to previous software-modems - what a revelation at the time... :)
imdeemvp
2004-05-11, 09:05 PM CDT
i have dsl and Ug....read this T1 at work...sweet and fast baby...
Ug
2004-05-12, 12:38 AM CDT
Originally posted by Drenon
Sadly - 56k still :( - however, pleased with my external modem relative to previous software-modems - what a revelation at the time... :) The joys of England. Damn BT
Finalzone
2004-05-12, 01:09 AM CDT
Originally posted by mhelios
coyote,
How in the world are you attaining such incredible rates? What, you're the only one on your local node? rofl. What did you use to produce those statistics?
At this (http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/) site, I was reported at 574.1 kbps... At this (http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/) site I reached 1013 kbps! And on pcpitstop....676kbps
On bandwithplace, I got 149.6 kilobytes per second.
On CNET site, I got "582857.1 Kbps " :p
Ug
2004-08-19, 12:01 AM CDT
I've just installed my broadband! :D :D :D
sayonara
2004-08-19, 05:59 AM CDT
I'm on DSL at the moment (2048 kbit/s at home, fibre at work varies with traffic) but I did manage to download the RedHat 7.2 isos over dialup in my parents house a couple of years ago - just set it download, set the modem to disconnect when idle and then went on holidays with the family for 2 weeks! (seemed like a great idea at the time)
I suppose the irony of it is that I didn't ever get that version installed - had problems detecting hardware or something, can't quite remember.
mick
2004-08-24, 08:32 PM CDT
Here in sunny Alberta, using ADSL service provided by the local phone company, I'm pulling 1287kbps/down and 509kbps/up according to PCPitstop and DSLReports. Relatively cheap too; $25CDN/mo. with no cap or limits.
Used to be a master of the 'surgical strike' when I had dial-up; because it hosed my telephone I got real good at finding what I needed and getting off. But last weekend I tried to use dial-up from a phone line in the garage while configuring a 'surprise' Win98 box for my daughter, and it was absolutely excruciating*... For those of you still on dial-up, 'I feel your pain'!
Mick
(*Hmmm, which was more excruciating? Dialup? Or Win98? The jury is still out...) :confused:
sailor
2004-08-25, 10:20 AM CDT
I am getting a consistant 350 kbps on my cable...but now they offer faster service...I am kinda pissed they now have come out with high speed cable (something they promised me in the beginning :(
Jumping
2004-08-26, 04:35 AM CDT
Im on UK 512/256 broadband but thinking of changing ISP as I'm paying £27.99 for this package but with a diffrent ISP I can get 1024/256 for £31.99. But I'm so glad not to have to use dialup!
When I was a student back in Sweden we had to start with 2mbit at our dorm but that got upgraded to 10mbit. Man leeching isos back then was a bliss. Usually sat downloading with speeds around 800-1200kb/s.
Altho back at the uni it self we had 2x155mbit (talked to my mate that now works at the uni and he said they know have 655mbit, which is the standard link to all Swedish uni's. The bigger ones have gigabit....sigh i want that!) One day we decided to download RH can't remember what version but it was on 4 cd's so we started our download from the Sunet ftp server, went away to grab some lunch and when we got back about 20min later all cd's was downloaded when we checked the log I the download speeds where around 5000kb/s.
Now I don't want to be gready but I think 10mbit dedicated for myself is a speed I could be happy with :)
Kim
friez
2004-08-26, 01:01 PM CDT
On bandwithplace, I got 2.9 megabits per second
Communications 2.9 megabits per second
Storage 349.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 2.9 seconds
Subjective rating Great on cnet i got
1544.0 Kbps Full T1 1.544Mbps
:p 2209 Kbps - You 2209 kbps and on pcpitstop i got
Download Speed 2808 Kilobits/second
Download Test Size 3354 KBytes
Download Time 9.556 seconds
Receive Buffer Size Not available :eek:
funy it dose not feel that fast at all :mad:
regeya
2004-08-27, 08:25 PM CDT
Ug, I'm not only on dialup, but far enough away from civilization that I'm lucky to cruise along at 33.6. :(
Oddly, there's a DSL company just down the road. The office I work at, 15 miles away, has DSL from that company. It's not available to me. Stupid phone company... :mad:
inha
2004-08-28, 06:39 AM CDT
2mb/512kb adsl here. I just switced to it from a 2mb/200kb cable because the low upload bandwidth was a pain in the ass.
ever since getting my first dsl connection I've been a speed freak. I just get these horrible bandwidth cravings ".
gots to get me faster downloads, GOTS TO!"
regeya
2004-08-28, 10:16 AM CDT
I think I even read something about hacking your old standard 56k modems....
I wouldn't want to run afoul of the FCC (http://www.fcc.gov). IIRC 56k modems are capped in the U.S. at 53k, due to FCC regs. Could be wrong, though. ;)
Ned
2004-08-28, 05:51 PM CDT
*** For those without broadband in the UK ***
BT has announced that as of Monday 6th September, they are scrapping exchange distance limits meaning that anyone living more than 6km from an ADSL exchange will now be able to get a 512kbps broadband connection.
Previously, only those living 4km from an exchange were able to receive broadband services.
This lift means that approximately 99.8% of telephone lines in the UK should now be able to receive 512kbps broadband - good news for all those living in more remote areas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3575964.stm
Ned
carlwill
2004-08-29, 07:04 AM CDT
people still use dial up? :eek:
;)
ghaefb
2004-08-29, 07:15 AM CDT
What is dial up ? :p
joke
carlwill
2004-08-29, 07:23 AM CDT
*** For those without broadband in the UK ***
BT has announced that as of Monday 6th September, they are scrapping exchange distance limits meaning that anyone living more than 6km from an ADSL exchange will now be able to get a 512kbps broadband connection.
Previously, only those living 4km from an exchange were able to receive broadband services.
This lift means that approximately 99.8% of telephone lines in the UK should now be able to receive 512kbps broadband - good news for all those living in more remote areas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3575964.stm
Ned
I am guessing they will still need to dial into the server? Anyways - that sounds like a pretty cool deal if you're just stuck with dial up ;)
Shadow Skill
2004-09-06, 05:29 PM CDT
Damn my dsl sucks its like 256 down and 768 up which translates to something like 180kb down and 30 up. (its more like 25) Strangely enough my download speed seems to go through the roof when I am in fedora I find it strange that it lists my downloads at 300+kb (its never stable its always dropping.) when downloading from sourceforge...anyone have any idea why?
imdeemvp
2004-09-06, 06:42 PM CDT
What is dial up ? :p
joke
a recent study here in ameria has shown the 50% of internet user are broadband now, dial up service here is as low as $4.99 per month with 1 email address.
we like FAST man :D
carlwill
2004-09-07, 07:16 PM CDT
4.99 - man that is cheap.
Once you go to broadband - I don't think you can go back. :p
Shadow Skill
2004-09-07, 07:18 PM CDT
I hear that, I know I can't go back to dialup..keeping my internet connection is my motivation to do well in school. (one of them anyway.)
imdeemvp
2004-09-07, 07:29 PM CDT
i agree i'm not going back to dial-up.....unless i lose my job but for now is DSL.
btw. access4less.net offers dial-up for $4.99
carlwill
2004-09-07, 08:17 PM CDT
.....unless i lose my job but for now is DSL.
Why do I picture myself at a street corner with a sign that reads "will work for bandwidth" ;)
imdeemvp
2004-09-07, 09:22 PM CDT
lets hope that's not the case.....
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