apt-get for FC4

[tonyyen]

I`m installation the FC4 on my Dual P3-866 PC Server, how do(can) i using apt-get to upgrade my system and where i can got it , Tks !

[bytesniper]

When i installed FC3Test3 there was not a version for it, i doubt there is now either. i got it installed and working but it was really a hack and took a while to configure. i would *strongly* recommend that you use yum with the default dev/test repositories and add dag/dries/freshrpm/at to your repo list. if you need that info let me know and ill happily post my repo files.

when FC$ actually get release i have absolutely no doubt there will be a version packaged up for it by Dag :)

[tonyyen]

I think i need some idea. Tks !

[foolish]

Fedora comes with yum. Yum is great. Use yum unless you have a reason not to. It can do almost everything apt can do and it's getting close to the speed.

If for some reason you still prefer to use apt, simply do:

yum install apt


And use apt as much as you'd like. This works because yum is included by default, and comes with Fedora-Extras already configured. Fedora-Extras has a great apt package available for those who still prefer apt over yum. Notice that we use yum to install apt.

[wtogami]

apt is no longer recommended for use in FC4. I personally have been one of the biggest apt proponents in past years, but these days yum has caught up in speed and features (in yum-utils). yum works with all Fedora mirrors, while apt needs a special mirror which is very inconvenient. apt upstream has given up, with the main company Conectiva rewriting from scratch smartpm, and then merging with Mandrake where the future is totally uncertain. apt was fast and good for years, but the lack of multilib support and lack of official mirrors makes it impossible for the long term. It is time to move on.

The next step in FC4 Extras and FC5 is the GUI interface "pup" which will be the official yum frontend. kyum and yumex that exist today are technically unacceptable to Core because they use "screen scraping" which is an incredibly bad and fragile programming practice.

[robghealey]

tonyyen:

from one of the yum repos that are already enabled from default, you can get apt and synaptic if you please. Go to terminal and su to root

then type
yum install apt

I have not heard yet not to use apt in FC4 because I use it and it works just fine and easy too....

Thanks,
Rob

[robghealey]

wtogami:

has pup been released for fc4 yet? if so, where is it and from what repo? I have lookede in fedora extras and can't seem to find it....

Thanks for your assistance...

[wtogami]

pup isn't ready yet.

[robghealey]

wtogami:

do you kow the expected release date and what website?

I will look for it as well.....

[RahulSundaram]

wtogami:

do you kow the expected release date and what website?

I will look for it as well.....

Paul Nasrat is working on it. It will be available in extras when its ready. No time schedule available now

Rahul
Red Hat Inc

[mit]

apt is no longer recommended for use in FC4. I personally have been one of the biggest apt proponents in past years, but these days yum has caught up in speed and features (in yum-utils). yum works with all Fedora mirrors, while apt needs a special mirror which is very inconvenient. apt upstream has given up, with the main company Conectiva rewriting from scratch smartpm, and then merging with Mandrake where the future is totally uncertain. apt was fast and good for years, but the lack of multilib support and lack of official mirrors makes it impossible for the long term. It is time to move on.

The next step in FC4 Extras and FC5 is the GUI interface "pup" which will be the official yum frontend. kyum and yumex that exist today are technically unacceptable to Core because they use "screen scraping" which is an incredibly bad and fragile programming practice.

I not sure what you mean with "screen scraping".
The FC4 edition of Yumex has most of yum handling been rewritten, so it is based on subclassing the yum modules and callback handlers, so it is much more tollerant to errors. It now have a real progress dialog, not just showing the yum output in at gui widget.