IMPORTANT: Test the latest FC4 kernel

[wtogami]

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/
FC4 users, please test the latest kernel from here, it will change often. These kernels are newer than rawhide. We are VERY close to FC4 final freeze, and it would be really bad if the FC4 installer didn't work on your hardware. Test test test!

http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Report bugs in Red Hat Bugzilla.

[Finalzone]

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/
FC4 users, please test the latest kernel from here, it will change often. These kernels are newer than rawhide. We are VERY close to FC4 final freeze, and it would be really bad if the FC4 installer didn't work on your hardware. Test test test!

http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Report bugs in Red Hat Bugzilla.

Everything booted fine. I have not encountered major issue. Included is the bootchart report.

[imdeemvp]

What problems are expected?

[jarifed]

Wtogami

Installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xen0 package using rpm install
Installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xenU package.

The installer removed my previous 1.1286 and 1.1315 xen0 and xenU packages from the boot directory and deleted them in my grub.conf, is this what suppose to happen??

I am faced now with a broken xenU config file however by changing the config file to the new xenU kernel it worked ok.

Noticed also that the TLS warning has been removed, has this been fixed?

Pentium 3 866Mhz

Jarifed

[wtogami]

Wtogami

Installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xen0 package using rpm install
Installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xenU package.

The installer removed my previous 1.1286 and 1.1315 xen0 and xenU packages from the boot directory and deleted them in my grub.conf, is this what suppose to happen??

I am faced now with a broken xenU config file however by changing the config file to the new xenU kernel it worked ok.


I don't know much about Xen. I'll ask the Xen guys.


Noticed also that the TLS warning has been removed, has this been fixed?

Jarifed

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156414
Yes the TLS warning was misleading and wrong for FC4.

[wtogami]

Finalzone where did you get that bootchart program?

[Dog-One]

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/
FC4 users, please test the latest kernel from here, it will change often. These kernels are newer than rawhide. We are VERY close to FC4 final freeze, and it would be really bad if the FC4 installer didn't work on your hardware. Test test test!

http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Report bugs in Red Hat Bugzilla.Roger that. I'm on it.

Any need at all to mess with the rawhide kernels?

[Finalzone]

Finalzone where did you get that bootchart program?

I got if from Bootchart website (http://www.bootchart.org/). I rebuilt the package from source rpms after I installed java packages from FC4T3 CDs. Only dependancy that was missing was jakarta-common-cli which was absent from the development repository, I downloaded the file from jakarta website (http://www.jpackage.org/) to fix the issue. I have tested with i686 set to see it they will be performance change from bootchart.

[wtogami]

jarifed, did you use rpm -Uvh or -ivh? Always use -ivh when manually installing kernels, because -Uvh will remove older vesrions of kernels which is never desired.

[jarifed]

wtogami
I let the installer package do the install so the defauilt is probably Uvh.
I will install later on the day the Kernel 2.6.11-1.1341 with rpm -ivh and in the future if needede normally I use yum update.

Jarifed

[SlowJet]

I used yum but it wouldn't connect to the repo. 404 and closed and such.

It seems that the re-compile of oo .104+ is in the critcal path.

oo , gcc, next kernal, gome 210, then jump to kenal 1352 (which would allow XEN testing)

SUN Java? Anyone?

SJ

[Finalzone]

[quote]I used yum but it wouldn't connect to the repo. 404 and closed and such[/url]
Try to use other mirror url.

[Finalzone]

Update: I run the kernel 2.6.11-1.1352. According to bootchart:
- It seems usb-agent ran 100% CPU during 10-15 seconds and 20-25 seconds. I am not sure if it is a normal process. No major issue otherwise.
- I also tested the kernel with the rebuilt kernel-module-nvidia from Livna on my system. No major issue either.
- Compared to the previous kernel, no major regressions.

Wtogami, is there any chance to have bootchart included in Fedora Core 4? It may be too late but possibly on release 5.

[SlowJet]

O I could be like you are now,
out dancin' 'round a May pole,
I could be like you are now,
but I'm sitting here waiting for oo
Everythings the same,
and the moooooooooon still calls my name

00

SJ

[SlowJet]

Progress at last.
Removed oo
up2date - stdc++ 404 on duke edu
excluded cpp4.0.0.8
up2date ok for 1341, Gnome 2.10...5, XEN
rebooted - ok
up2date 4.0.0.8 - 404 duke edu
fell back to yum - updated ok
XEN looks weird, missing kernals, XEN.gz in boot, extracts to grub????? no instructions, no man page RATS

this just out on test list oo is in the mail

On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:12 -0400, sean wrote:
> yum upgrade
>
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 for package:
> openoffice.org-core
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: libjawt.so.6 is needed by package
> openoffice.org-core
>
>
> I think it's because of:
>
> ---> Package libgcj.i386 0:4.0.0-8 set to be updated

A new OOo finally got through the build system this morning to deal with
this. It should show up tomorrow.

Dan

[jarifed]

Latest update

Installed kernel-2.6.11-1.1353_Fc4.i686 using i rpm
Installation OK
Installed kernel-xen0-2.6.11-1.1353_Fc4.i686 using i rpm
Installation OK
when using "shutdown - h now" kernel does not shutdown properly
and seems to enter in standby state this was also happening with the 2 previously kernel's
Installed kernel-xenU-2.6.11-1.1353_Fc4.i686 using i rpm
Installation OK
Succesfully created user domain using kernel-xenU-2.6.11-1.1353 and kernel-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xenU in domain 0 with kernel-xen0-2.6.11-1.1353_FC4.i686.
No problems with kernel's removed from the /boot and grub.conf

Slowjet
see these links about xen
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/

http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart

Jarifed

[SlowJet]

thanks, :)
what do you mean by installed using the i rpm?
what rpm, from where?
I only get the development table scraps. ;)


When I install the base, in the chrooted system, and have to turn off, choke, choke, SELinux, does that mean:
1. I should do this work outside X in telint 3?
2. Only the chrooted system will be being updated so the SELinux will have (no, minimal, unknown) activity to unsysnc the attributes. Do I need to relabel after each install of a chrooted system?
3. Is the sda in the img file valid or does that need to be hda for ATA systems?
Is 1 GB really big enough and can that go in the lvm root?
4. How long does it take to install base? (20 min, 40 min, 3 hours?)
5. What your CPU increase on these vhd use?

SJ

[SlowJet]

It says 1 GB and the sample command says 1M? :)
That would be great to have 32 vm's on 32 MB. lol
SJ

[tashirosgt]

I'd like to test a FC4 smp kernel on a Dell Precision 530. (All the FC3 smp kernels that I have tried cause it to lock-up http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=25126&highlight=Dell+530 ) What rpm would I download to try this?

According to /proc/cpuinfo the machine has two cpus with:
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.00GHz

[jarifed]

SJ

what do you mean by installed using the i rpm?
what rpm, from where?
I only get the development table scraps.

I have done the updates from this link
http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/

I should have been a bit clearer I installed it rpm -i kernel-version.
Previously I got the installer to install it but it wiped my older kernel.

Regards the xen questions I will be writing down my experiences and hope to have them ready by sunday

Jarifed

[SlowJet]

Hey thanks for clearing that up, jarified. :)
I'm on 1353 and I get the fastest, cleanest boot so far, with the exception of my auto formatting flat screen. (the 4th workgroup is off the screen)

It is also noticably faster in the apps.

I downloaded xen0, xenu, and devl o and u But not sure what to do with them yet.

Thanks again.

SJ

[SlowJet]

Now the desktops are showing. I had another icon in the way. Not quit enough room to self adjust.

:)

This is looking good.

[robghealey]

I tried to download the current at that moment 1353 kernel and the kernel and kernel-devel file were not there. A 404 page not found error message came up instead! Anyone else with this problem?

I am more than willing to try them out, but not if they are not there!!!

[Finalzone]

Current kernel update is 1355.

[Nano-Tech]

ok, this might sound stupid, but what is the difference between:

kernel-2.6.11-1.1355_FC4.i686.rpm
kernel-xen0-2.6.11-1.1355_FC4.i686.rpm
kernel-xenU-2.6.11-1.1355_FC4.i686.rpm

??
what is this xen thing?

[ramaswamyps]

* the internet connection vanishes

the dhcp selected during installation is seen converted to manual selection of ip and other things.
reconfiguring with systemtools works only for that session

for connecting we have to add route and gw manually after bootup completes

*i updated kernel devel also

now that i dont see uninstall of tjis update i am reinstalling fc4 test3

the rpm package manager says the up2date is old version but does not update

except for kernel update up2 date shows 0kb for all other headers

unlike fc3 the installer and partitioner work fine without a glitch

then howcome yum update goeson on downloading updates while up2date keeps quite after kernel update

the system is more unstable after updating the kernel.

all kde files seems damaged during download 234 disc have errors when reading kde related files.

hope to get fc4 release without the kernel problems

otherwise test3 is much better than test2 in my experience

ramaswamyps

[ogog]

In FC4test2,3,my soundcard(Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI)has annoying background sound,and when moving or clicking my mouse,some abnormal sound can be heard from the speakers. :(

[ramaswamyps]

In FC4test2,3,my soundcard(Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI)has annoying background sound,and when moving or clicking my mouse,some abnormal sound can be heard from the speakers. :(

remove microphone and see if the unwanted sound vanishes

it may help

in my p3 810e mother board i did not see any such audio problems

of course mp3 files dont play either with xmms or with rythm box

i have installed fc4test3

no mp3 plug in for this new kernel(fc4)core

my installer for fc3 gives head geometry veryfication errors and doesnot install

rmaswamyps

[tashirosgt]

I also ask Nano-Tech's question. (Oops! A short post -must like to see myself talk.)

[jtang613]

Xen is the new virtual machine functionality (think vmware).
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/

[kylemaxwell]

My system clock runs twice as fast as it should on an x86-64 system. The only way to prevent this is to turn off APIC (with the noapic kernel parameter). Bugzilla ID # 159081 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159081). This problem exists on the 1366 kernel, though it seems to have been around for a while before that.

[SlowJet]

On Kernal 1353 to kernal 1365 while downloading the kernal rpm for 1366 the whole net whent crazy.
The next day I got it straight, and install 1365.

In the process of getting the net working I had to re-enter my host (ip, name, alias)
I typed the alias as localhost

This became a big problem and I figured it out yesterday by the logs and senmail messages.
The alias s/b localhost.localdomain

The simple ommission cause the dhcp to think too long, and then senmail would hang up with messages in the log (note the log viewer program was deleted from FC4 so greping is a new hobbie) showed send mail could not recognise the host and was trying all sorts of tricks to figure things out, even iissing commands and queries (which I was impressed with) agast the dhcp server, the out side port 67, and conf files.

After about 4 minutes he would start up.

So if you get hung up at startup, check your messages in the logs and you may see why.

SJ

I have a bug filed about windows smb shares (icon on the FC desktop) when doubled clicked the mose goes busy, a blank window opens and the share hangs. A force close from the x control, results in the FC users /home dir poping up.

This went away in soon after I reported the bug, but is now back with 1366.

Other problems, music player. Trying to get a radio station. It bombed and said to tell the coders and that it must be restarted.

DHCP lease time is low. My DHCP sever from my proxy gives windows machines 4 days.
It gives FC 40 hours, when refreshed I think the FC net connection goes to sleep.


UP2DATE still hangs, had to use yum for Kernal 1366 set.

[wtogami]

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/
Please test 1369 now! This may be the final FC4 kernel, so TEST TEST TEST and report in RH Bugzilla if the results are so catastrophic that it would prevent installation.

[Finalzone]

Okies dokies. =)
Warren, is there any chance that bootchart will be installed by default on the incoming FC5?

Update: no major incident on my system

[wtogami]

No, because it is of no benefit to most users. It might be in Extras as soon as somebody fixes the deps though.

[SlowJet]

wtogami, :)

Running strong and steady, only the samba share still hour glass on open.
Gimp, evolution, firefox, OO0, print via net with cups, samba, remote desktop, Gnome apps, PDF all at once with no sign of errors.

I'll keep it on and do some subvserion stuff later.

SJ

[Thomas80]

I upgraded the kernel from version 1353 to 1369.

Now Centrino WLAN doesn't work anymore.

Syslog tells me this :

ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.0
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection
ipw2200: ipw-2.2-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2
ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: 0xFFFFFFFE
ipw2200: Failed to up device


I am using the Driver Firmware v1.0.4

[xstep]

Hi I'm new to this forum.. New kernel installed .. Booted.. all is working fine. Used yum without a hitch.. I love yum! and yum.repos.d is awesome. Much better than one BIG yum.conf :)

Peace
X

[mnisay]

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC4/
FC4 users, please test the latest kernel from here, it will change often. These kernels are newer than rawhide. We are VERY close to FC4 final freeze, and it would be really bad if the FC4 installer didn't work on your hardware. Test test test!

http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Report bugs in Red Hat Bugzilla.

im 50% with the download...

[kylemaxwell]

Just a note that I still have the problem with the double-time clock on AMD64 unless noapic is used (see bug #159081 at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159081). No updated code to test, although I suppose even with the legal delay it will be in an errata for FC4 at this point.

[mnisay]

finsihed downlaoding the 1369,
did the rpm -Uvh kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4.i586.rpm from FC3

output :
etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:postgresql_etc_t on line number 706
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:postgresql_log_t on line number 707
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:postgresql_log_t on line number 708
..and more

error: Failed dependencies:
selinux-policy-targeted < 1.23.16-1 conflicts with kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4.i586

rpm -qa kernel* shows
kernel-utils-2.4-13.1.39
kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3
kernel-2.6.9-1.667

i just did yum update kernel successfully though..
appreciate some feedbacks.

[Finalzone]

error: Failed dependencies:
selinux-policy-targeted < 1.23.16-1 conflicts with kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4.i586

selinux-policy-targeted is the problem. Apparently you tried to use kernel from FC4 inside FC3.

[mnisay]

i tried upgrading selinux-targeted-policy using yum update, still works the same.
any possibilities using yum?

[SlowJet]

The development disto came back from the dead.
I got 25 updates last night. Well, into FC5 items.
Amazzinfly OO0-104-2 is still working.

Anyway, I was trying to install all the parts for nvidia 7674 driver set from Atrpms.
The libs went in, what I thoht was the helpers went in,
but the driver, and the kernelmoudule keep says the helper doesn't exits or the module doesn't exit.
I tried sh in telinit 3 and rpm, but it says can't execute a bianary file. lol

So I downloaded all 4 rpm and tried an sh in telinit 3 and got the same message.

What subtile steps am I missing? I think I'm so close as the all the stuff seems to be in place except the /extensions/nvida foler (this must be the helper files?

Help, I need clererrrerere fonts. :)
Other than that, FC4+ is very slow and starts up without hardly a pause anywhere.

SJ

[SlowJet]

Apache and Mysql have started up. Must have been SELinux policy thaat came down?

Now for some meat on the web dir.

SJ

[wtogami]

1369 is the FC4 release kernel. Closing thread. Start new threads to discuss kernel issues, and if you have problems make sure they are reported to Bugzilla.