FTP service for newbies

[Chris Ferris]

Hey People,

I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you.
After being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single
major complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure
that I might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities
(Audio/Video players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in
one easy to find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar
theory behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can
retain new users by softening the learning curve.

Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services that
will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints. And I
only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because that is
the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other distros if
others are willing to help me with it.

Tell me what you think.

Cheers,
CMF

[matt]

"Chris Ferris" <cferris21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hey People,
>
> I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you.
> After being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single
> major complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure
> that I might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities
> (Audio/Video players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in
> one easy to find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar
> theory behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can
> retain new users by softening the learning curve.
>
> Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services that
> will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints. And I
> only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because that is
> the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other distros if
> others are willing to help me with it.

What might be more useful is a website that shows the common utilities and
their dependencies, and links to the RPMs on Redhat's site? Or wherever they
normally reside. That would take less hosting space aswell...

matt

>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> CMF
>


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[machman]

I can recommend oneandone.com. I've no commercial benefit from doing so
either :-)
I've used them for about 3 mnths and was recommended them by a friend who's
used them for commercial hosting for a year of so.

Pricing is aggressive too.

Cheers
[snip]
> Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services that
> will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints. And I
> only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because that is
> the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other distros if
> others are willing to help me with it.
>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> CMF
>

[steve harris]

Chris Ferris wrote:
> Hey People,
>
> I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you.
> After being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single
> major complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure
> that I might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities
> (Audio/Video players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in
> one easy to find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar
> theory behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can
> retain new users by softening the learning curve.
>
> Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services that
> will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints. And I
> only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because that is
> the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other distros if
> others are willing to help me with it.
>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> CMF
>

rpmfind already does it
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/index.html

example,
http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/sylpheed-0.9.4-1.i386.html

download the file and check it's install or dependencies.
The dependencies you need are only a click away on the same page you
downloaded the file from.

Your idea sounds good and may work better.

[Chris Ferris]

steve harris wrote:
> Chris Ferris wrote:
>
>> Hey People,
>>
>> I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you.
>> After being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a
>> single major complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I
>> figure that I might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities
>> (Audio/Video players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in
>> one easy to find location. I know it slightly goes against the
>> moduluar theory behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if
>> we can retain new users by softening the learning curve.
>>
>> Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services
>> that will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints.
>> And I only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because
>> that is the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other
>> distros if others are willing to help me with it.
>>
>> Tell me what you think.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> CMF
>>
>
> rpmfind already does it
> http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/index.html
>
> example,
> http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/sylpheed-0.9.4-1.i386.html
>
>
> download the file and check it's install or dependencies.
> The dependencies you need are only a click away on the same page you
> downloaded the file from.
>
> Your idea sounds good and may work better.
>
I didn't even know rpmfind had that functionality. So I doubt new users
will find it either.

And I think it would work to. Now I just have to find the right hosting
service to put my ftp service on.

Thanks for the advice, keep it coming!

CMF

[Lenard]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:30:53 +0000, Chris Ferris typed:

> Hey People,
>
> I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you. After
> being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single major
> complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure that I
> might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities (Audio/Video
> players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in one easy to
> find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar theory
> behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can retain new
> users by softening the learning curve.

Why, have you not heard of apt/synaptic and/or yum;

http://freshrpms.net/apt/
http://shrike.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=981

http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO

Takes care of most of the dependency problems.


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[Chris Ferris]

Lenard wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:30:53 +0000, Chris Ferris typed:
>
>
>>Hey People,
>>
>>I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you. After
>>being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single major
>>complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure that I
>>might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities (Audio/Video
>>players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in one easy to
>>find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar theory
>>behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can retain new
>>users by softening the learning curve.
>
>
> Why, have you not heard of apt/synaptic and/or yum;
>
> http://freshrpms.net/apt/
> http://shrike.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=981
>
> http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO
>
> Takes care of most of the dependency problems.
>
>

I repeat for NEWBIES. Most NEWBIES don't even know about aptget or yum,
and wouldn't be comfortable with going through the steps required to
install aptget or yum on Redhat.

I figure it will take some of the edge off of the learning curve until
they are ready for a utility such as aptget.

Regards,
CMF

[AG]

"Chris Ferris" <cferris21@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1AOdb.1015$Kq4.3293981@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> Hey People,
>
> I've got an idea that I thought I might bounce off of all of you.
> After being a lurker of this newsgroup and others, I have found a single
> major complaint from newbies, and that is dependencies. So I figure
> that I might setup an ftp server that has some common utilities
> (Audio/Video players, file sharing, etc...) and their dependencies in
> one easy to find location. I know it slightly goes against the moduluar
> theory behind Linux, but I think that can suffer slightly if we can
> retain new users by softening the learning curve.
>
> Right now I'm looking into good, relatively cheap hosting services that
> will get the job done, so I would appreciate any helpful hints. And I
> only plan at first to support the Red Hat distro, mainly because that is
> the only distro I know, but I would be open to adding other distros if
> others are willing to help me with it.
>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> CMF

It's such a good idea that someone already did it and made a program to do
it for you. It's called YUM and the home page is at
http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
I just used it to update my RH 9 test box Friday and so far so good.
AG