Fedora Core 4 test2

[ghaefb]

Second test release candidate of Fedora Core 4 is now avalible for download.
Main improvements:
- GNOME updated to 2.10 final
- KDE updated to 3.4.0 final
- Firefox updated to 1.0.2
- OpenOffice.org update to 1.9.89
- A preview of GCC 4.0
- many various bugfixes

More info here:
http://fedoranews.org/blog/?p=583

Bittorrent download:
http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/

[Dr.Diesel]

Will test 1 update to test 2 with the origional yum settings?

[marcos]

Will test 1 update to test 2 with the origional yum settings?

I don't believe so.

[rkl]

Although the official mirror site page doesn't list it, you can get UK ISOs of FC4T2 from ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/fedora.redhat.com/test/3.91/i386/iso/ (x86) and ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/fedora.redhat.com/test/3.91/x86_64/iso/ (AMD64)

As usual, be wary of what you use to download the DVD ISO's - many Net clients (including Web browsers) can't handle files over 2GB properly. Good old command-line "ftp" works nicely for me and I have had past success with "lynx -source".

[Vinneh]

The changes between the development tree and the test-2 tree dont seem to be very many packages.. so updating shouldn't be hard
add

[Test 2]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Test 2
baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.91/i386/os/
gpgkey=0

to your yum.conf and run an update

[WebWind]

I have got a question.
What does it mean when are "Packages Moved Out Of Core" (http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.91/ppc/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en) ?
Is it that the packages will be not included in FC 4 final? :confused:

[linuxbeta]

here -> shots.osdir.com (http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=319&slide=32&title=fedora+core+4+test+2+screenshots)

[foolish]

Test1 with the default yum sources will use the development branch (rawhide). During a test period, test releases are just snapshots of Rawhide with updates to the installer. So yes, doing a yum update with test1 will get you the same packages that are in test2, but it may not update default settings or configuration that have changed from test1 to test2.

[the_profiler]

oohh.. i wish i could also test it.. i don't have a spare machine here..

well.. i hope that by the time FC4 is finally released officially, there would be lotsa tips/instructions (if there would be new changes regarding the installation{obviously, there'll be})..

good luck to everyone! :cool: :cool:

[Vinneh]

Test1 with the default yum sources will use the development branch (rawhide). During a test period, test releases are just snapshots of Rawhide with updates to the installer. So yes, doing a yum update with test1 will get you the same packages that are in test2, but it may not update default settings or configuration that have changed from test1 to test2.

When I ran yum update, it installed a couple of packages that changed things such as the default home page for web browsers.. so I guess it does change some default settings

[Myra]

So what happened to Bluecurve in those pics? Bluecurve is gone now? :(

[Vinneh]

The theme is an adaptation of clearlooks to give it a bluecurve feel.

[rkl]

Finally got around to installing FC4T2 tonight - noticed some sort of parameter warning when booting the machine for the first time (just before firstboot itself was run), but I ignored it :-)

Bluecurve isn't the default any more (in fact, the Anaconda installer "theme" seems to be very "washed out" too - where there's normally blue progress bars, it's just off-white - not as clear, IMHO), but you can get back via the Preferences/Theme menu (i.e. it is shipped with FC4T2 and I think it looks better than the new default myself).

One surprise is that they've knocked out "pdksh" now in favour of the inferior "ksh" - there must be some sort of licencing issue or something about pdksh, because I think it's a step back. Yes, I know bash is the default shell, but I do use commercial UNIXes which don't tend to shop with bash, but do ship with ksh.

Also, I installed the x86_64 version of FC4T2 on my Athlon 64 box and the "almost 2.0" version of Openoffice.org didn't seem to work (well, the disk churned a bit when I selected the writer compoent, but no window came up). Didn't I read somewhere that 64-bit OO.org doesn't work yet? In which case, maybe dropping abiword and including a broken OO.org wasn't such a hot idea for the 64-bit FC4T2 !

BTW, if you have an Athlon 64 + Nforce 4 combo (which is what's in my Acer Aspire), I found that "pci=noacpi noapic" need to be passed as kernel params (i.e. at the install prompt do "linux pci=noacpi noapic" and make sure the two params are present in the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf after installation).

[ianmac]

I wonder which Fedora version will recognise nvidia video cards upon intalling the OS. FC4? FC5?

[Finalzone]

Which nvidida videocard do you have?

[rkl]

I wonder which Fedora version will recognise nvidia video cards upon intalling the OS. FC4? FC5?
All Fedora versions in fact - an open source 2D "nvidia" driver is installed. Remember that the nvidia 3D driver is closed source and Fedora only distributes open source software with their OS install media. You can, of course, download the 3D driver from www.nvidia.com, but at least the 2D driver gets you going in decently high resolutions (unlike XP, which "safety defaults" to 800x600 and quite often won't let you go higher until you choose the right card/driver).

I could also say "I wonder which OS will recognise my Nforce 4 motherboard's network card and sound chip - XP or Fedora Core 3 (or 4) - upon installing the OS ?". Answer: Fedora Core 3/4 !! Yep, even XP Service Pack 2 *does not* provide any support for NForce 4 network/sound - and saying "go to www.nvidia.com and download the NForce 4 drivers" is no bleeding good when your network card doesn't work! I ended up using FC3 to download the XP drivers, burn them DVD and install back in XP - what a palaver and very ironic to have to use an OS with superior hardware support for the latest Nvidia motherboard to sort out my XP setup!

[ianmac]

Remember that the nvidia 3D driver is closed source and Fedora only distributes open source software with their OS install media.

Ah, that explains it. Thank you for the explanation :)

[Myra]

I heard the new theme was a bug and Bluecurve is back in rawhide.

[mbokil]

I took the plunge. I downloaded FC4, burned 4 disks and installed. It went suprisingly well. I selected to upgrade my system instead of clean install since I was already running FC3 with parts of the OS manually updated to FC4.

I noticed a speed difference at booting, faster now. Nautilus also seems to display directories faster and make thumbnails faster. Gedit has improved a lot and is good enough to do PHP, Python, Javascript, HTML editing in.

Problems: Jpilot, my palm pilot program, is no longer working -- I think some dependencies are broken somewhere. Also Open Office writer wouldn't work for me at all. This might be my own fault since I had previously manually updated Open Office to 2.0 beta. I ended up removing Open Office 2.0 beta and reinstalling it using RPM's. Totem movie player also doesn't appear to be working but Xine is functional.

Overall I impressed by the upgrade. Some minor problems but my system feels snappier now. Gnome 2.10 that comes with FC4 is much improved.

Here is a screenshot showing FC4 running XFCE4.2.1 windowing environment -- Gimp, RealPlayer, Open Office 2.0, Firefox, Nautilus and Gnome system monitor are all running consuming about 173 MB of RAM.

[btfsc]

Tried to install to a Dell server with the PERC/2 series RAID controller. Have a number of these running FC1
Still not able to find the hard drives do to using the new megaraid driver.
Last verison that worked for me was FC2. This also was broken in FC3.
Hope it gets fixed in the final release :)

[pescobar]

I can't wait for the final release. About the the theme, I do like Bluecurve bettar. About NVidia, the open source "nv" works just fine. The 3D proprietary driver doesent work with udev (at least for now...). I had trouble installing on a FC3 box, so I just used the default nv.

[defkewl]

Is it much faster then FC3?

If it is, perhaps I'll try it over my MEPIS

[mbokil]

I think the load time is about half the amount of time. I did notice that Gnome is very snappy now and Nautilus speed has been improved.

[defkewl]

Well that's a great things to hear. Hopefully I can gather all resources to install Fedora again on my box :D

[tobim]

I saw that there were problems with how Anaconda installs GRUB in test1, in that it would only install it to the MBR. Anyone know if that got fixed for test2?

The reason I ask is I have a partition I could try this release on, but I don't want it compromising my FC3 installation. Ideally I would like to use my GRUB from FC3 to boot both my current FC3 for work and the test2 for testing/messing around.

[Codmate]

Does this release fix the nforce3/SATA bug where the installer loads nforce3 sata drivers but then claims it can't find a hard drive and re-boots the machine?

[Dave Fashenpour]

From a Win guy -- evalgelized to try Fedora...
Loader error encountered after starting X server.
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer)
on X server ":1.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed)
with 0 events remaining.
install exited abnormally.
....
any help?
i got Win 98 with Norton Virus autoprotect disabled
i got an empty 6 GB Western Digital drive waiting...

Dave.

[fryslan76]

This is problay due to an unknow graphic card or something like that. Try linux text for a none graphical install. Or surf the web a bit for your graphic card and Fedora/RedHat to see if you need a graphics driver.

[prestonjb]

Not totally related but I cannot seem to get FC4T1 to successfully mount nfs drives from a HPUX machine or a Linux Redhat 7.2 machine.

However the other machines can mount the FC4T1 exports. Is FC4T2 going to fix that or am I overlooking a setting... I've tried forcing to na older nfs version with no luck...

This is bumming me on Fedora because I cannot automount (or even manually) the /home and other directories

HELP?

[prestonjb]

Well just to let those of you know it is a problem with protocol. The default for Fedora is tcp not udp like it was with redhat 7.2. Changing the /etc/sysconfig/autofs file and adding LOCALOPTIONS="udp" solved the problem...

Now if I could just get ATI-FGLRX installed properly so I can use the DUAL HEAD or XPanoramic or whatever that is called mode...

Currently I get tons of compiler errors when I try to compile the current FC3 code from ATX.

Any suggestions folks?

[rkl]

Now if I could just get ATI-FGLRX installed properly so I can use the DUAL HEAD or XPanoramic or whatever that is called mode...

ATI's 3D driver is currently "busted" with recent kernel releases and they've haven't put a new version of their Catalyst drivers out yet to fix this. Nvidia have had similar bustage when the kernel structures are changed, so it's not just ATI who trip up by keeping their 3D drivers closed source.

> Any suggestions?

For FC4T2 or FC4T3, I suspect this is bust out of the box and there's no remedy (other than staying in 2D mode for the moment). For FC3, you can probably go back a few kernel releases and find the last kernel that worked with ATI's 3D drivers. It'll be very disappointed if ATI don't release a Catalyst fix before FC4 final comes out - would that be the first time that ATI's 3D drivers failed to work on the day of the release of a final version of Fedora Core?