Biggest Fedora-day ever!

[foolish]

Getting tired of hearing that everything in Fedora will happen "soon"? Guess what? Soon seems to be today!

Fedora CVS is open! Only anonymous access so far but this means the project has finally evolved and big changes are coming. More developers will be able to participate directly in development and packaging of Fedora-Extras. See http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com for more.

Fedora-Extras is here! Or almost, Fedora-extras is close to completion and a pre-extras repository is ready for all of us to enjoy. Browse the repository Here (http://fedoraproject.org/pre-extras/3/)

To get the key: rpm --import http://fedoraproject.org/pre-extras/RPM-GPG-KEY-Fedora-Pre-Extras

To start using it now, add the following to your /etc/yum.conf:

[pre-extras]
name=Pre Extras
baseurl=http://fedoraproject.org/pre-extras/3/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1


Bring out the banners, the big cake and the karaoke machine people, fedora seems to be done with it's infancy and we're moving forward.

My personal view: WOHO! YAY! HOHO! YEEHA! *happy dance*

The announcements from the fedora-devel mailing list:

Extras: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-December/msg00557.html
CVS: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-December/msg00526.html

[yanik]

I don't really get what this could change. what does it mean? will livna dag and other just die? Will there be just one big repo for everything not supported by RH?

[imdeemvp]

Good news for the community. :D

[zjimward]

Is this a replacement to Fedora Extras or an Addtion to Fedora Extras?

[mike]

Good news, but some packages are old (i.e. WindowMaker is still .80 instead of .91).

Mike

[Jman]

I don't really get what this could change. what does it mean? will livna dag and other just die? Will there be just one big repo for everything not supported by RH?
The way I see it, this is for all those things that could go in Fedore Core, but are not part of the core distro. Third parties can certainly package their own, but with an official extras repository people know where to go for Fedora packages. This would be a good repository to merge packages into if the major respositories wanted to.

Extras will still be subject to a QA process to ensure that extras contains quality software. However, there never was really any official support. See the Fedora Project FAQs (http://fedora.redhat.com/about/faq/).

Also see the Extras FAQ (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/FedoraUsersFAQ).

[mike]

I'm using the following mix of repositories with no problems

Pre-Extras
Livna
Dag
Dries
Freshrpms
Macromedia Flash

[foolish]

The pre-extras is a preview of what extra will be. It's to replace the Core 2 fedora.us currently used in the fedorafaq.org configuration.

Extra will hopefully be _the_ place to put packages that can't make it into the Core. So all extra software that doesn't have legal issues, should go to Extras. Extras could (and will be I think) included in the default installation, and work out of the box. Hopefully the community packagers will embrace extras, it seems Matthias of freshrpms have to some extent, and we'll get the one repository to rule them all that we've been dreaming about.

As for non-open source software, that will have to go elsewhere, currently livna.org is a mirror of fedora.us, I suspect it will be updated to mirror the framework of fedora-extras and serve as _the_ add-on repository for all things not free, such as mp3, movie codecs, NVIDIA and ATI driver rpms and so forth.

[yanik]

ok thanks, this clears it up for me :)

[yur1022]

Is it not ready for Apt/Synaptic access yet?

yur

[zjimward]

It's really funny I suggested once having a super repository and was laughed out of the forum. Now we have Pre-Extras and a hope that packages will embrace it. Ok, before you think this is a flame or that I'm trying to start one I'm not. I really do think it's a bit ironic. I hope that as time progresses that "One will rule". This will help people to embrace Linux. It will also make programs like apt and yum easier for those without technical skills to add the software that they want to their copy of Linux.

Thanks for putting up with my way out thinking. Thanks also for your explanation Foolish.

:)

The pre-extras is a preview of what extra will be. It's to replace the Core 2 fedora.us currently used in the fedorafaq.org configuration.

Extra will hopefully be _the_ place to put packages that can't make it into the Core. So all extra software that doesn't have legal issues, should go to Extras. Extras could (and will be I think) included in the default installation, and work out of the box. Hopefully the community packagers will embrace extras, it seems Matthias of freshrpms have to some extent, and we'll get the one repository to rule them all that we've been dreaming about.

As for non-open source software, that will have to go elsewhere, currently livna.org is a mirror of fedora.us, I suspect it will be updated to mirror the framework of fedora-extras and serve as _the_ add-on repository for all things not free, such as mp3, movie codecs, NVIDIA and ATI driver rpms and so forth.

[mit]

To start using it now, add the following to your /etc/yum.conf:

[pre-extras]
name=Pre Extras
baseurl=http://fedoraproject.org/pre-extras/3/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1





The Fedora Core 3 way to do this is to save, the it to a pre-extra.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d/ directory, not adding it to yum.conf, repository information is not supposed to be yum.conf in Fedora Core 3.

[Finalzone]

Do not use gnome-themes-extra package from pre-xtra. It will break the background and icons like user's home and trash will not be displayed.

[cardinal II]

Do not use gnome-themes-extra package from pre-xtra. It will break the background and icons like user's home and trash will not be displayed.

Too late :(

so that is what happened.

[Belkira]

http://bugzilla.redhat.com for bug reports. Choose ``Fedora Extras'' as product.