msimplay
6th December 2004, 10:47 AM
First of all i gotta say that Fedora is a great distro :)
Primarily i'm a Gentoo user and i believe it is excellent however sometimes i need a system to just work without all the compiling , i had to use it at the time because no distro was compatable at the time with my new P4P800-E motherboard
When i first inserted the Fedora3 dvd i was impressed by its easy installation procedure and
easy setup , things on Gentoo i normally do manually they were all done here
and traditionally i had thought of Fedora as a slow distro but not so i was pleasantly suprised at how well it ran with a nice clean interface
My first snags were like many peoples the media playback
so i went about searching on how i read the forums and i found out that yes everything i did on Gentoo is possible here even if with a few snags
I installaed all the usual Browser plugins without a snag using the Fedora Faq
I came to installing things like Totem and Bittornado i ran into problems
so i found out how
On Fedora things are Comprised into different Repositries
This is where Gentoo has the advantage where everything can be found in one Repositry
However it was a minor problem once i knew about it in Fedora
I used Fresh Rpms to install mplayer worked out great because it installed with all support for plugins however i did have to manually download the win32 plugins something i don't normally have to do in Gentoo but it was a minor quibble
Then i went about adding OpenGL support for my games
Enemy-Territory
UT2004
Never winter nights
Counter Strike - Cedega / Point2Play
so i found instructions for installing the nvidia drivers
relatively simple except that with the standard commands i had to add the directory /sbin/ before the command and i had to install gcc which isn't there by default unless u pic it specifically at the start , but this was due to my inexperience with the distro, It didn't install from add/remove programs because it complained about not finding SELINUX libs yet they were there and installed , this was minor as i searched the forums and i found the solution i just downloaded GCC from the livna repositry
i wanted to install mplayer plugin however it wouldn't install via yum because i downloaded the freshrpms mplayer because i wanted support for all plugins
however this caused a problem with mplayer plugin for me as it wanted to install from livna with mplayer reinstalled all over again and freshrpms doesn't have the mplayerplugin at all
so my only choice was to install via source however this caused me some problems i managed to find all the src dependancies and install mplayer plugin
i had installed everything except Counter Strike with Point2Play
I downloaded Cxoffice for applications like quicktime ,shockwave and internet explorer
Personal choice of mine because i prefer Quicktime for streaming in websites
and shockwave doesnt have a linux equivelent
, And yes i mentioned Internet Explorer I know its not a very good browser however i need it to test what my web code looks like in each browser
I installed it with a minor snag with exec shield and it CXOFFICE seemed to correct this by itself by redoing Prelinking
it installed all my applications correctly.
My major snag point came at this point where i wanted to install Bittornado as i needed wxpython i was enable to find a Fedora core 3 package anywhere
and I tried to compile it via source but it seems the distro lacked the development tools
and i couldn't add/remove programs because of the update i had done when i first installed it , i tried via source but was unable to install it due to incomplete compiling packages
so that was ok because i could wait until FC3 did have the packages as i knew it was a new distro version
Remember when i installed mplayer plugin it seems some of its dependancies included mesagl libs somewhere and it seemed to bork my nvidia installation and having searched the forums to find out that it was irreversable i tried to reinstall it but same problems i had with tv-out not working and nvidia driver being disabled
My conclusion as i decided to go back to Gentoo was that
Its a good distro however unlike Gentoo these problems would happen nearly everytime a new distro version come out
problems with packages not being available due to new distro ie FC2 > FC3
and the way the systems work is different so rpms can't really be used between FC2 > FC3
so in short although a good linux distro
it wasn't my idea of an easy distro
so many repositries made it hard to administer
ie mplayer livna not compatable with mplayer from freshrpms
not being able to install xine even tho mplayer and xine share a dependancy ffmeg i had to download it from freshrpms instead
I don't know wether these problems apply to all binary based distros / rpms / deb
but for me i had to return to Gentoo as i didn't have problems with having to becareful what packages i installed because With Gentoo i know that packages are all Compatable with each other
My suggestion would be to organise a single repositry where packages are compatable with each other rather then 5 or six repos and rpm problems that way
versioned rpms makes it difficult with even the distro base as i couldn't add and install some programs since i had updated to updates shown in up2date
Minor Snags that i could learn to live with but i prefer to voice my opinion and try to help towards a fix for what i think is a bit of a problem
and why does Fedora or any distro have to update so much ?
when everything can be update via yum
that would include updating from gnome 2.6 > gnome 2.8
In Gentoo once its installed thats it never have to upgrade or install again
Debian also follows this
However why isn't it true for Distros like Fedora / Suse / Mandrake
Primarily i'm a Gentoo user and i believe it is excellent however sometimes i need a system to just work without all the compiling , i had to use it at the time because no distro was compatable at the time with my new P4P800-E motherboard
When i first inserted the Fedora3 dvd i was impressed by its easy installation procedure and
easy setup , things on Gentoo i normally do manually they were all done here
and traditionally i had thought of Fedora as a slow distro but not so i was pleasantly suprised at how well it ran with a nice clean interface
My first snags were like many peoples the media playback
so i went about searching on how i read the forums and i found out that yes everything i did on Gentoo is possible here even if with a few snags
I installaed all the usual Browser plugins without a snag using the Fedora Faq
I came to installing things like Totem and Bittornado i ran into problems
so i found out how
On Fedora things are Comprised into different Repositries
This is where Gentoo has the advantage where everything can be found in one Repositry
However it was a minor problem once i knew about it in Fedora
I used Fresh Rpms to install mplayer worked out great because it installed with all support for plugins however i did have to manually download the win32 plugins something i don't normally have to do in Gentoo but it was a minor quibble
Then i went about adding OpenGL support for my games
Enemy-Territory
UT2004
Never winter nights
Counter Strike - Cedega / Point2Play
so i found instructions for installing the nvidia drivers
relatively simple except that with the standard commands i had to add the directory /sbin/ before the command and i had to install gcc which isn't there by default unless u pic it specifically at the start , but this was due to my inexperience with the distro, It didn't install from add/remove programs because it complained about not finding SELINUX libs yet they were there and installed , this was minor as i searched the forums and i found the solution i just downloaded GCC from the livna repositry
i wanted to install mplayer plugin however it wouldn't install via yum because i downloaded the freshrpms mplayer because i wanted support for all plugins
however this caused a problem with mplayer plugin for me as it wanted to install from livna with mplayer reinstalled all over again and freshrpms doesn't have the mplayerplugin at all
so my only choice was to install via source however this caused me some problems i managed to find all the src dependancies and install mplayer plugin
i had installed everything except Counter Strike with Point2Play
I downloaded Cxoffice for applications like quicktime ,shockwave and internet explorer
Personal choice of mine because i prefer Quicktime for streaming in websites
and shockwave doesnt have a linux equivelent
, And yes i mentioned Internet Explorer I know its not a very good browser however i need it to test what my web code looks like in each browser
I installed it with a minor snag with exec shield and it CXOFFICE seemed to correct this by itself by redoing Prelinking
it installed all my applications correctly.
My major snag point came at this point where i wanted to install Bittornado as i needed wxpython i was enable to find a Fedora core 3 package anywhere
and I tried to compile it via source but it seems the distro lacked the development tools
and i couldn't add/remove programs because of the update i had done when i first installed it , i tried via source but was unable to install it due to incomplete compiling packages
so that was ok because i could wait until FC3 did have the packages as i knew it was a new distro version
Remember when i installed mplayer plugin it seems some of its dependancies included mesagl libs somewhere and it seemed to bork my nvidia installation and having searched the forums to find out that it was irreversable i tried to reinstall it but same problems i had with tv-out not working and nvidia driver being disabled
My conclusion as i decided to go back to Gentoo was that
Its a good distro however unlike Gentoo these problems would happen nearly everytime a new distro version come out
problems with packages not being available due to new distro ie FC2 > FC3
and the way the systems work is different so rpms can't really be used between FC2 > FC3
so in short although a good linux distro
it wasn't my idea of an easy distro
so many repositries made it hard to administer
ie mplayer livna not compatable with mplayer from freshrpms
not being able to install xine even tho mplayer and xine share a dependancy ffmeg i had to download it from freshrpms instead
I don't know wether these problems apply to all binary based distros / rpms / deb
but for me i had to return to Gentoo as i didn't have problems with having to becareful what packages i installed because With Gentoo i know that packages are all Compatable with each other
My suggestion would be to organise a single repositry where packages are compatable with each other rather then 5 or six repos and rpm problems that way
versioned rpms makes it difficult with even the distro base as i couldn't add and install some programs since i had updated to updates shown in up2date
Minor Snags that i could learn to live with but i prefer to voice my opinion and try to help towards a fix for what i think is a bit of a problem
and why does Fedora or any distro have to update so much ?
when everything can be update via yum
that would include updating from gnome 2.6 > gnome 2.8
In Gentoo once its installed thats it never have to upgrade or install again
Debian also follows this
However why isn't it true for Distros like Fedora / Suse / Mandrake
