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dickinsd
2nd December 2004, 10:34 PM
I know there are loads of people that use the command line in Linux, sorry this does not include you.. :p

I personally think KDE sux, I don't know perhaps if your used to using it, then maybe its the dogs danglies??

I have Gnome a lot more, my last 2 installs did not even include KDE as I have such a hate for it.... :mad:

Hope not to offend you KDE lovers with that statement.... :o

Anyway, Gnome or KDE (and if you got the time - why)

Dave

Psquared
2nd December 2004, 10:40 PM
I don't dislike KDE, I just think it's too clunky. The new version 3.3.1 is much better, but I still spend more time in Gnome.

Xfce is coming along with the latest release (4.2 I think) and I prefer it to KDE.

I hope to try Gnome 2.8 one of these days. (have not downloaded FC3 yet and have not installed Ubuntu yet)

n6mycro
2nd December 2004, 10:40 PM

I like KDE and i honestly have no idea why. I've used both, i just liked KDE better from the beggining and stuck with it.

james_in_denver
2nd December 2004, 10:42 PM
Gnome libs are open, KDE is still usint Trolltech's Qt (last I heard at least), so in that respect I give a slight nod to gnome for being more "open".

Both launch openoffice, firefox, xmms, Eclipse, Oracle Enterprise Manager, Evolution, and Skype, so I don't see what the big deal is from a "user" point of view.

As far as my (admittedly limited) gui programming goes, I don't see much difference, sure the function calls have different names, and it's a pain learning TWO (or more) ways to layout a gui, but in the end, they both pretty much behave the same.

PS: that's why I didn't vote......do we have Badnarak for a choice?????

Uhlix
2nd December 2004, 10:53 PM
i voted KDE, when i started useing linux i just tossed a coin in the air and it landed on the KDE side. After useing it for a while now i like it. Although ive never used Gnome, so i might like that too =) but i dont plan on switching over anytime soon as KDE works just fine for me.

vinu
3rd December 2004, 02:07 AM
I went with KDE. Quite some time ago, I tried both KDE and Gnome, both of which were in their 1.x versions......... and KDE was much better then. Haven't looked back or even tried Gnome since then. Am planning to give Gnome a second look since I have it installed on my FC3 box though...... but frankly, I don't think I'll change as KDE does all I want it to do.

msimplay
3rd December 2004, 02:20 AM
i started with gnome because at the time i found it most likened to windows as it seemed to share the copy and paste abilities but as i was trying a few distros some had kde as their default desktop and so i was forced to use it but since i sat down and learned it i was suprised at how fast and fluid everything ran and i love the configurability of it
I hear everything thats in kde is possible in gnome aswell however it comes down to what applications you like best gtk or kde

I prefer KDE applications like kaffeine , k3b , kplayer , kontact , kcontrol and the way kioslaves work is really great and intergrated

wct1490
3rd December 2004, 02:38 AM
foe me KDE is just more fun than Gnome...that's it...
Mac still rules in the GUI...:S

imdeemvp
3rd December 2004, 02:44 AM
Gnome.....all the way!

SuperNu
3rd December 2004, 04:19 AM
I voted for KDE since I have been using it for the longest. I originally ran KDE since I thought that it looked better than Gnome. Now I stay with KDE because I am familiar with it, but I have tried out different desktops such as Fluxbox and Xfce.

--SN

Bradlis7
3rd December 2004, 04:45 AM
Don't we already have 50 of these polls already in this forum?? I voted gnome, as I always do, just for the fun of it. It's fun discussing it some, but I think there's a point where it becomes an overkill.

mbokil
3rd December 2004, 04:52 AM
Xfce is coming along with the latest release (4.2 I think) and I prefer it to KDE.

I hope to try Gnome 2.8 one of these days. (have not downloaded FC3 yet and have not installed Ubuntu yet)

You are right about XFce4.2. Man is it coming along. I have been using it for about a month now and I love it. The cool thing is you can get the benefit of using Gnome applications like Nautilus and turn on gnome services for better gnome application support and the windowing environment becomes an incredible system. Gnome 2.8 is pretty fast but if you are more of a minimalist XFce4.2 is the way to go. KDE with FC3 is flakey I think. I used it for about two weeks but some of the GTK apps. like Mozilla Firefox had sluggishness in the UI. When I switched to XFce4.2 it was as if my system had been given a CPU upgrade. I am running an older 1.3 MgHz Athlon chip. XFce takes a little more technical knowledge I think than KDE or Gnome. For example my panel got messed up and I couldn't fix it via the GUI. I knew the XML files for the panel were stored in the .config folder so I opened them in Gedit and moved code around by hand and the panel was organized just the way I wanted. I think you need to know the basics to use XFce: the common shell commands, simple Bash scripts, XML/HTML markup coding. If you are a developer and you know all these things then I wouldn't mess with Gnome anymore. All your memory intense applications like Gimp 2 will be blazing fast. With Gnome in its default configuration a lot more memory is used which slows down your applications. If you want maximum speed and a pretty UI just use XFce4.2.

StephenH
3rd December 2004, 05:10 AM
I voted Gnome. I am a long-time OS/2 user and only a short-time Linux user. To me, Gnome feels more familiar and comfortable. My experiences with KDE are OK, but I don't like the feel of it as much. I haven't really tried many of the other window managers out there, but I will one of these days.

Regards,

Stephen

AliOop
3rd December 2004, 05:59 PM
I don't know why I love these KDE vs Gnome polls but I do. I can't resist participating. For me, it's Gnome hand downs. I started with KDE and Mandrake. I thougnt KDE was the cat's whiskers then. About a year later I bought SuSE. I started using Gnome with it and I haven't looked back. I have since played with other distros and used the latest KDE that's included but it isn't too long before I go scurrying back to Gnome. It doesn't have anything to do with what one can or can't do with the DE of choice. It a feel. One could even describe it as a religious experence. Yes, that's what it is! I see the Light!!! By the way, Gnome 2.8 in Ubuntu is great. Viva Gnome.

deviant03
6th December 2004, 04:17 PM
Gnome for me, just feels more comfortable.

Myra
6th December 2004, 04:29 PM
I agree with deviant03. KDE just works against me...

KDE feels like it's giving just too many options (e.g. widgets all over the screen). For example, if I go in the options of Konqueror I need to search a zillion options to find the one I need. With Gnome there is usually a 1 true way to do things (like in MacOS X), which is very well thought out. So usually you don't have to change the default. Though, if you dislike the Gnome way, you're out of luck. Or you go with KDE.

Gnome also feels more coherent. I think because of the Human Interface Guidelines.

Also, KDE reminds me too much of Windows UI, which isn't a problem in itself (I think that's why it's so popular), but even since the old days of Windows 3.1 and 95 I never liked the Windows UI.

sailor
6th December 2004, 05:02 PM
I use KDE for FC3...for me it is more configurable...they both have issues here and there.
I do have Ubuntu which is Gnome 2.8...so I am playing with both desktops.

GreyGeek
6th December 2004, 05:38 PM
I use KDE for FC3...for me it is more configurable...they both have issues here and there.
I do have Ubuntu which is Gnome 2.8...so I am playing with both desktops.

I tried Ubuntu last night and realized why I didn't like GNOME, not enough buttons! ;)


Have you tried the free two ISO set of LibraNet 2.81.? It's a Debian based distro (with a klutzy install, but shouldn't give an experienced user any trouble) which detected ALL my hardware perfectly and even installed 3D acceleration on my nVidia card. First distro to do that for me right out of the ISO. My locked DVDs played without adding any special files.
It starts up in Xwindows running IceWM but you can use sessions on the login screen to switch to GNOME or KDE.


Oh, GNOME or KDE?

Blondes or Redheads?

baz2a
10th December 2004, 04:52 PM
since using rh9, fc 1-3, suse 9-9.2 tried both gnome and kde...gnome has always been nice, but never has been quite as configurable as kde...kde 3.3.1 so far has blown gnome 2.8 out of the water as far as ease of configurability.

Ebichu
10th December 2004, 07:29 PM
i have used both, gnome and kde, but my heart belongs to gnome!

chega
10th December 2004, 07:58 PM
I use Gnome and xfce. Gnome is configurable; xfce is very fast shell for my PC.

tomwitmer
11th December 2004, 06:42 AM
KDE for me, for one "killer feature" missing from Gnome: configurable terminal settings.

In KDE, I completely fill desktop #2 with four custom-sized xterms ("konsoles") so I can have 4 concurrent command-line sessions. (I like my command lines!) Gnome doesn't seem to be able to remember the custom terminal sizes or positioning, which makes it a non-starter for me. If I'm missing Gnome's way of doing this, I might consider re-switching.

imdeemvp
11th December 2004, 07:03 AM
Don't we already have 50 of these polls already in this forum?? I voted gnome, as I always do, just for the fun of it. It's fun discussing it some, but I think there's a point where it becomes an overkill.
I guess it gets ignored.

bunsen
11th December 2004, 10:28 AM
i started with kde and loved it until gnome 2.8 came out. that was the killer that finally made me switch completely from a rather unstable kde to a stable gnome. i love minimalist desktops and always had some problems getting nice minimalist desktops in kde. too many buttons, too many options. and openoffice and firefox always looked ugly in kde (and the qt-gtk-tool was terrible).
my favorite ui's are gnome, xfce and blackbox

dnar
11th December 2004, 03:08 PM
I have been a Gnome man since 1.2 (1999) and just today I switched to Xfce for a trial. Wow! Fast and looks good! 4.2 (4.1.99.1) is much better than 4.0.6 that comes with FC3, all my menus are populated for a start! Worth a look if you have not tried Xfce...

komi
11th December 2004, 07:29 PM
i voted for gnome!
i tried both, kde and gnome, and gnome was simply more confortable

TR0GD0R
11th December 2004, 07:37 PM
I've been using KDE since I've used *nix. I just upgraded to FC3 and thought I'd try Gnome. If i had no access to 3rd party apps, I'd probably use Gnome, but KDE has lots of cool add-on stuff that I can't find for Gnome, and on the whole, it seems more powerful and ever so slightly less of a resource-hog.

finlay
9th January 2005, 03:53 PM
That's it, really. (Late entry to this topic!). Gnome looks and feels beautiful BUT what happens if you want to carry out major administrative file management? Nautilus won't hack it, you have to use KDE or cli. For instance, I want to change permissions on a folder and all its contents, I become root, run konqueror, change permissions on folder and click "Apply changes to all subfolders and their contents". You can't do that in Nautilus. Pity, cos I prefer Gnome.

akbowbender
14th January 2005, 04:57 PM
KDE does it for me. I have bounced back and forth between the two. Just like the way KDE works. Besides, when I go into Gnome, my sound card starts emitting all kinds of screeching sounds! The only disappointment is that the Fedora Project treats KDE like an unwanted step-child. That is why I am considering switching distos instead of upgrading to FC3.

PeTzZz
14th January 2005, 05:34 PM
You can't do that in Nautilus. Pity, cos I prefer Gnome.
You can do this kind of hack:
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/matt_hansen/nautilus/
or just run nautilus in terminal with root access.

PeTzZz

Shadow Skill
17th January 2005, 02:45 AM
Is there a system monitor for KDE I can't figure out how to kill processes with KDE which I happen to use with Suse. I can't even figure it out when I use KDE in Fedora and it is really, really annoying to have to pull up gnome-system-monitor to kill processes, I would hope KDE has an equivalent tool...

akbowbender
17th January 2005, 03:03 AM
CTRL - ESC should bring up KDE System Guard

Shadow Skill
17th January 2005, 04:27 AM
oh, so that is what that thing is. :) Didn't sound like it was what I needed so I never clicked into it. :)

jhawkinsvalrico
17th January 2005, 06:52 AM
I find myself using Gnome most of the time, but still switch back to KDE every once in a while. It really depends upon what I'm doing. I really like using Konqueror when I'm ftp'ing files from my workstation to a remote system. In the grand scheme it really doesn't make that much difference to me because all of the apps that I use run in either environment in FC3. I also did not vote because I like both desktop environments.

gtmind
8th March 2005, 09:16 AM
I prefer KDE. It has the features, far better technology and the killer apps (Konqueror, AmaroK, K3B, Kdevelop, Quanta...). No, I'm not counting Firefox or OpenOffice.org as Gnome apps.

BTW, KDE uses QT licensed under the GPL, that means Free Software. Stop that FUD already, please.

haplo
12th March 2005, 04:41 AM
I usually go back and forth between kde and gnome but I have been using gnome as my Desktop Envirornment more often. I am trying out kde because I found out that it is easier to set up my multimedia keys on my keyboard.

I have used kde since 1.x but switched to gnome when I used FC2 because it consumed less memory and cpu. I am reevaluating kde as we speak.

But I use some specific programs whatever Desktop enviornment I am using:

I use gnome-terminal because I have always hated konsole.
I use mainly firefox unless there is a specific site that requires IE then I use konqueror which can fake out the site easier.
k3b is the best cd burning utility around.
I like gwrite better than kate (if that is still used)
trying out amarok, like what I see better than rythmbox

The best thing I have is a choice in what I want to use.