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marko
21st April 2012, 07:39 PM
One thing I've not heard about being improved for Fedora 17, each time I've installed a Fedora lately I had to use the infinality packages to improve the font appearance. Will Fedora 17 have good fonts out of the box or do we still need to add the infinality.repo to yum ?

Infinality
21st April 2012, 08:43 PM
I can't speak for the Fedora developers, but my guess is that the font rendering will be exactly the same as previous versions. The problem of fonts "looking bad" is multi-layered, and a lot of different things would need to get touched in order to create a decent appearance. That's exactly what the infinality patches and configurations attempt to do.

Ultimately, I'm hoping much of it will end up in Freetype itself. Some of it will for sure. Once that happens, all Linux distros will have nicer looking fonts if they choose to.

:dance:

DBelton
21st April 2012, 09:26 PM

My results have been that F17 still leaves a lot to be desired in the fonts area. However, if I use a desktop other than Gnome, the default fonts look quite a lot better.

I am getting ready to put the Infinality patches on myself and see if that improves them as well as it did in F16 :)

I didn't get them put on when I installed F17 because there wasn't a repo or F17 packages at the time. Are those available now?

Infinality
21st April 2012, 09:30 PM
Well, yes, the repo is up, and it should work with F17.

rpm -Uvh http://www.infinality.net/fedora/linux/infinality-repo-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
yum -y install freetype-infinality fontconfig-infinality libXft-infinality

See here for setup instructions:
http://www.infinality.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77

bob
21st April 2012, 09:49 PM
moved to F17 Development Forum

hadrons123
22nd April 2012, 02:29 AM
My results have been that F17 still leaves a lot to be desired in the fonts area. However, if I use a desktop other than Gnome, the default fonts look quite a lot better.

I am getting ready to put the Infinality patches on myself and see if that improves them as well as it did in F16 :)

I didn't get them put on when I installed F17 because there wasn't a repo or F17 packages at the time. Are those available now?

Everytime I try another distro I always look whether infinality fonts settings can be used. My friends who use Mac OS X had always been envious of me having crisp fonts all the time on my fedora. You don't need to have their repo up while you are testing alpha. I did a local install after downloading the packages. Keep up the great work, infinality!.

Apostate
22nd April 2012, 01:18 PM
I'm running an F17 with Openbox window manager and the fonts look pretty good. I installed infinality but I didn't like the results so went back to default.

sillav
22nd April 2012, 01:26 PM
Yeah, apparently it is a matter of preference. I installed infallity and my eyes started to water. I much prefer F17's default fonts.

DBelton
22nd April 2012, 01:40 PM
The good thing about installing infinality... If you don't like the fonts, you have options to tweak them and get them to look how you want them to. There are numerous options that aren't available in the standard freetype package. Check out the conf files for infinality and you will see the options.

flyingfsck
22nd April 2012, 01:58 PM
Weird, as far as I am concerned, the Linux font problem was fixed about 10 years ago. To me, the default fonts in Fedora and perfectly fine. It makes me wonder what subjective attribute it is that some people are looking for?

jff
23rd April 2012, 06:08 PM
On F15 and F16 I installed only freetype-freeworld from RPM Fusion and that changed fonts much better for me.