some links to screenshots of whats new in Gnome 3.2

[tox]

New Login Manager (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/LoginScreen)

Online Accounts (http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/goa-with-new-icons.png)

Empathy's Contact Management (http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/06/13/announcing-gnome-contacts/)

Quick File Previews in nautilus (http://blogs.gnome.org/cosimoc/2011/04/29/sushi/)

[solo2101]

look nice... the questing is...
How is the performance in AMD-ATI still crappy?

[tox]

look nice... the questing is...
How is the performance in AMD-ATI still crappy?
thats not a Gnome problem, that a AMD/ATI driver problem, go and ask ATI to fix there drivers

[beaker_]

Right and I'll buy a new nvidea card for every machine I run to.:lol:

[solo2101]

thats not a Gnome problem, that a AMD/ATI driver problem, go and ask ATI to fix there drivers

you are right.. hopefully they provide support soon

but problem is not only AMD/ATI... I got INTEL/NVIDIA too...
overall performance is crappy FOR ME, I glad it work for you.

[tox]

you are right.. hopefully they provide support soon

but problem is not only AMD/ATI... I got INTEL/NVIDIA too...
overall performance is crappy FOR ME, I glad it work for you.

intel drivers have generally been poor. i use the Opensource Nvidia drivers, i have no problems with those. Nvidia update there drivers far quicker than ATI do.

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Right and I'll buy a new nvidia card for every machine I run to.:lol:
why would you need to do that?

[DBelton]

G%$%D$&$^%M it! :D

That logon screen has got to be one of the ugliest I have ever seen :Y

I hope they will allow you to keep the current design, or change it if you wish to.

Also, I sure hope that they make the Empathy contact manager and online accounts an option rather than enable it by default.

I sure don't want things like that enabled by default.

[tox]

G%$%D$&$^%M it! :D

That logon screen has got to be one of the ugliest I have ever seen :Y

I hope they will allow you to keep the current design, or change it if you wish to.

Also, I sure hope that they make the Empathy contact manager and online accounts an option rather than enable it by default.

I sure don't want things like that enabled by default.

actually, i think its better than the ugly out of date grey GDM , the New one you see there has probablly less Code/lines in it than the Grey one also

[DBelton]

well, black/white is so.. well.. 80's. :lol:

I actally prefer color since I paid money for a color monitor. :D

[tox]

Grey doesnt exactly have colour in it . i think you can install lightdm which is what Ubuntu is gonna use, i dunno how stable it will be though but my guess is they wont package the out dated GDM your used to

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by the looks of it, there not going to package the old GDM, the 3.1.x one is the one you see in the screenshot

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http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=235

[DBelton]

I guess I can go to using KDM or XDM instead, then.

I finally figure out the easy way to change the butt ugly striped wallpaper in GDM and they go changing it up on me :lol:

[tox]

i think there is a way to change that wallpaper, im sure i saw somethig on the Ubuntu forum on how to do it, i cannot remember what part you have to Edit. maybe they'll use a different wallpaper for F16? i dunno, not that i care to much, i dont look at it every day.

[DBelton]

In GDM, there is an easy way to change the wallpaper.


su -
(root password)

xhost +SI:localuser:gdm

sudo -u gdm gnome-control-center

*select Background
*change to whatever background you wish
*restart Gnome


But if their new logon screen isn't GDM, I don't know how to go about configuring it. If it is still GDM, I would assume it could be configured the same way, which means it could possibly be changed by tweaking the theme files for it and change the black to something else.

[arowana]

]regarding the gdm debate ... sorry dbelton, have to support detox, as he is right :p

[DBelton]

ummm.. what debate? and right about what?

There wasn't any debate and there is no right or wrong. :D

[ElderSnake]

Yeah it's a matter of preference.

Oddly though I can probably take either. GDM is, or was, fairly themable and could be made to look pretty swish anyway but I don't mind the new design.

However, I do really hope there's still a session chooser. I know Gnome is scared of newbies screwing up but geez, put it there even if it's hidden and only accessible via the Alt button...

[tox]

Yeah it's a matter of preference.

Oddly though I can probably take either. GDM is, or was, fairly themable and could be made to look pretty swish anyway but I don't mind the new design.

However, I do really hope there's still a session chooser. I know Gnome is scared of newbies screwing up but geez, put it there even if it's hidden and only accessible via the Alt button...

thats what i hope but my guess you or we'll have to scroll up the top an click on one of those white icons to change to a different DE session , but hey i could be wrong

[Finalzone]

with this new Login Manager, how does one choose what DE to login to? or does one have to go up the top of the screen to choose that?

Similar to the current login screen, DE switch will only appear if they are installed.

[tox]

Similar to the current login screen, DE switch will only appear if they are installed.

s0 below the account name you'll be able to choose the DEyou have installed? i generally have KDE and Gnome installed anyway. in that cse i might test the alpha, which should come out early next month

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ummm.. what debate? and right about what?

There wasn't any debate and there is no right or wrong. :D

why do you care so much about the blue stripes? your only in that area to sign into the Desktop then you get to view your own wallpaper. when you login. no big great deal if you ask me. by doing what you typed out to change it means more work then you gotta do the same for the next release, i mean why bother? seems a bit ridiculous.

[ElderSnake]

Similar to the current login screen, DE switch will only appear if they are installed.

Well that's cool, cheers for the info Finalzone.

[DBelton]

s0 below the account name you'll be able to choose the DEyou have installed? i generally have KDE and Gnome installed anyway. in that cse i might test the alpha, which should come out early next month

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why do you care so much about the blue stripes? your only in that area to sign into the Desktop then you get to view your own wallpaper. when you login. no big great deal if you ask me. by doing what you typed out to change it means more work then you gotta do the same for the next release, i mean why bother? seems a bit ridiculous.

because those ugly vertical stripes give me a headache within seconds of looking at them. :( Look at the stripes for just a few seconds, and then I have a headache that lasts for hours. It was bad enough that back before the beta was released, I actually just went in and deleted that background from my system until I figured out how to go in and change it. (well, I did copy another background over to where it was and named it the same so I wouldn't get errors)

And the way it's changed, it shouldn't require changing for the next release since it's changed in the settings that should be kept.

[arowana]

hi dbelton :), regarding all this debateable stuff here, i tend to agree with detox again. it could be personal preference but as a matter of fact i know you are wrong. Why dont you try and learn to like the wallpaper like everybody else?

to add something: my guess is default backgrounds are the main reason for distro-hopping, so i agree it is better to have a nice wallpaper

[Finalzone]

s0 below the account name you'll be able to choose the DEyou have installed? i generally have KDE and Gnome installed anyway. in that cse i might test the alpha, which should come out early next month[COLOR="Silver"]

Yes during the l prompt to enter password.

[Dan]

hi dbelton :), regarding all this debateable stuff here, i tend to agree with detox again. it could be personal preference but as a matter of fact i know you are wrong. Why dont you try and learn to like the wallpaper like everybody else?

to add something: my guess is default backgrounds are the main reason for distro-hopping, so i agree it is better to have a nice wallpaper Wrong answer. It's his opinion, and he's very welcome to it. And you are not welcome to criticise it.

In short ... (The infamous, "Put a sock in it!" post. (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1493694#post1493694)) <..http://www.zyloo-enterprises.com/graphics/smileys/really-disgusted.gif..>


Can do?


Edit: Greg ... you might heed this as well.

[arowana]

c'mon Dan, you take this way too serious. thought it is obvious. this is about gdm colours and stripes in a wallpaper...

Reading my nonsense again i cant believe you take this serious. btw DBelton is my favorit poster here by far (would pay to subscribe his posts as he made me use my wacom bamboo with fedora). Of course by far means just right behind you.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know. <..:rolleyes:..> But what you do in jest, others may mistake as license, or tacit permission to abuse their fellow community members. And that just ain't gonna happen. <..http://www.zyloo-enterprises.com/graphics/smileys/really-disgusted-fedora.gif..>

Therefore, the mandatory warning.

[ElderSnake]

because those ugly vertical stripes give me a headache within seconds of looking at them. :( Look at the stripes for just a few seconds, and then I have a headache that lasts for hours. It was bad enough that back before the beta was released, I actually just went in and deleted that background from my system until I figured out how to go in and change it. (well, I did copy another background over to where it was and named it the same so I wouldn't get errors)

And the way it's changed, it shouldn't require changing for the next release since it's changed in the settings that should be kept.

Ouch, that's pretty nasty :(

I miss the old GDM configuration tool where you could change themes and backgrounds as easy as you would your desktop.

I can never understand why this was removed by default but anyway.

[arowana]

received, have a nice weekend folks , cheers!

[tox]

Edit: Greg ... you might heed this as well. Dan i wasnt arguing with him, just pointing out a few things, i dont like it myself but im not gonna be bothered changing it since im only in that area once for 10 seconds however if you wanna change it, change it, its his system not mine

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we all have opinions Dan, i think im entitled to mine like everybody else, but as i said, i wasnt arguing with DBelton

[Dan]

Dan i wasnt arguing with him, just pointing out a few things, i dont like it myself but im not gonna be bothered changing it since im only in that area once for 10 seconds however if you wanna change it, change it, its his system not mine

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we all have opinions Dan, i think im entitled to mine like everybody else, but as i said, i wasn't arguing with DBeltonIndeed we do, and indeed you are. That being said ... sometimes the best place to be when it looks like a dust-up is about to get started ... is somewhere else.

And that being said ... The graphic file below is what I use on my GDM screen for background.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=1024

[ah7013]

And that being said ... The graphic file below is what I use on my GDM screen for background.
<snip>


Hey Dan that is quite a cool background I'm thinking of setting it as my wallpaper now.

[Dan]

Enjoy.

That one was built for the laptop, so it's only 1366x768. (The attached .bz2)

[ah7013]

Enjoy.

That one was built for the laptop, so it's only 1366x768. (The attached .bz2)

Perfect, thats my laptops resolution! :D

[DBelton]

*** Sneaks in... Swipez Dan's nice looking background... Sneaks back out... *** :D


Edited after reading Dan's comment above..

(I wasn't taking it as a personal affront, but better to calm it down now and keep the peace :) )

[benjamin444]

That logon screen has got to be one of the ugliest I have ever seen

I hope they will allow you to keep the current design, or change it if you wish to.

Also, I sure hope that they make the Empathy contact manager and online accounts an option rather than enable it by default.

I sure don't want things like that enabled by default.

[tox]

That logon screen has got to be one of the ugliest I have ever seen

I hope they will allow you to keep the current design, or change it if you wish to.

Also, I sure hope that they make the Empathy contact manager and online accounts an option rather than enable it by default.

I sure don't want things like that enabled by default .

im afraid you got no choice since it'll be enabled by default, though you can install/use any DM you like once installed.

to your top post - IMO it looks much better than the ugly Grey one and LightDM that Ubuntu will be using. as i said above once installed you can use any DM you like, though you will not be able to use the old grey GDM i dont think as the new one is still named GDM


just because there enabled by default doesnt mean you have to put your info on or in them during the install process of Fedora16. not everyone will be using Evolution, some use Thunderbird.

[errorxp]

I barely use Fedora anymore because the switch to gnome3 rendered it unusable. I have F15 lxde installed (not that it's great or anything) in windows vbox mostly for running python scripts but that's just about it. Linux really needs a decent DE. As for kde, xfce, openbox - been there and you can stuff them as well.

[dokuro]

my AMD/ATI runs great on lovelock...

[dd_wizard]

I wish it looked like this... Oh wait! I can make it look like this! :p

dd_wizard

[tox]

I wish it looked like this... Oh wait! I can make it look like this! :p

dd_wizard

perhaps Gnome4 will look like that dude