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virusdoc
2004-11-09, 10:52 AM CST
I've been fighting with my ATI Radeon 9600 in Fedora for months, and now that I have upgraded to FC3 I've lost acceleration again. So I'm ready to toss the card and get a new one.

My needs:
-TV out for use with MythTV and my PVR-250. I prefer RCA out but could work with S-video
-Reasonable 2-D acceleration in linux, but not much gaming
-FC3 and Xorg support for drivers
-It's gotta work with all of my Myst series games in XP--the only reason I am keeping a dual boot system! These are the currently supported cards for Myst IV Revelation:
* ATI Radeon 7000 to 9800 or better (we already know this won't work with Xorg)
* NVIDIA GeForce 1/2/3/4/FX families
* Matrox Parhelia
* Intel i865G to i915G (I think these are embedded video; I don't want to switch motherboards at this time but would consider it if there were compelling reasons)


What card would you recommend?

Thanks!

My current system:
Athlon XP 2100+
768 MB DDR RAM
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP Motherboard
ATI Radeon 9600 AGP
Hauppauge PVR-250
Dual boot FC3 and XP Pro
Antec Sonata case (they're not as quiet as they claim to be)

Dog-One
2004-11-09, 05:17 PM CST
If I were in your shoes, I think I'd browse eBay for a decent nVidia card (http://computers.listings.ebay.com/Video-Cards-for-Desktop-PC_Nvidia-Based-Other-Brands_W0QQfromZR4QQsacategoryZ40161QQsocmdZListin gItemListQQsosortorderZ2QQsosortpropertyZ2). You should be able to snag something for $50 easily. There are a lot of folks that must have the latest and greatest, so they dump their still pretty good cards off using eBay. Do make sure that you get one that hasn't been O/C'd or that the firmware hasn't been messed with--just ask them point blank, remind them that eBay won't tollerate false claims and the transaction will be null-n-void.

virusdoc
2004-11-09, 08:02 PM CST
Thanks for the reply, dog-one. Have you found the nvidia driver support for x.org to be decent? I poked around the nvidia drivers site a little, and it seemed like the downloadable drivers were mostly written for xfree86. Is there a good online forum for getting these drivers to work in xorg systems?

Thanks!

imdeemvp
2004-11-09, 08:09 PM CST
I now prefer to use nVidia because of the better support for linux. You can get them on ebay.com for good price.

stevewabc
2004-11-09, 08:10 PM CST
I run a nVIDIA FX5700LE 256 MB DDR AGP you can find this card for $100.00 if you shop around I love it it rocks...


eVGA nVIDIA GeForce FX5700LE Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N333-TX"

http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0

Dog-One
2004-11-12, 09:09 PM CST
Have you found the nvidia driver support for x.org to be decent? I poked around the nvidia drivers site a little, and it seemed like the downloadable drivers were mostly written for xfree86. Is there a good online forum for getting these drivers to work in xorg systems?I have the latest nVidia drivers working in FC2 without a hitch. I pulled the driver file (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html) and did an --extract-only, then read through the documentation. I already had the kernel source so I just compiled against that, made the few changes in xorg.conf, stuck alias char-major-195 nvidia into /etc/modprobe.conf, started X and all was well. The only bummer is now I have a tainted kernel. :( [root@fedora64 X11]# sysctl -a | grep taint
kernel.tainted = 1
[root@fedora64 X11]#I'm not fully up to speed on FC3 yet, but I have seen threads on this forum that explain what you need to do to make them work.

robsmachine
2004-11-12, 10:01 PM CST
I've been fighting with my ATI Radeon 9600 in Fedora for months, and now that I have upgraded to FC3 I've lost acceleration again. So I'm ready to toss the card and get a new one.

My needs:
-TV out for use with MythTV and my PVR-250. I prefer RCA out but could work with S-video
-Reasonable 2-D acceleration in linux, but not much gaming
-FC3 and Xorg support for drivers
-It's gotta work with all of my Myst series games in XP--the only reason I am keeping a dual boot system! These are the currently supported cards for Myst IV Revelation:
* ATI Radeon 7000 to 9800 or better (we already know this won't work with Xorg)
* NVIDIA GeForce 1/2/3/4/FX families
* Matrox Parhelia
* Intel i865G to i915G (I think these are embedded video; I don't want to switch motherboards at this time but would consider it if there were compelling reasons)


What card would you recommend?

Thanks!

My current system:
Athlon XP 2100+
768 MB DDR RAM
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP Motherboard
ATI Radeon 9600 AGP
Hauppauge PVR-250
Dual boot FC3 and XP Pro
Antec Sonata case (they're not as quiet as they claim to be)
Hi virusdoc,

From the listing of your system I see you have the Hauppauge PVR 250 card and had it combined with Core 2...
I have the same card here **wiith the Conexant chip!** and using Core2 2.6.5-1.358 kernel, on booting the physically
present card isn't recognized by Core 2 which I installed after pushing the card in..
How do I force Core 2 to recognize the card?

You must be able to advise me, we can start a new topic here too..

Your help is appreciated!

rob

virusdoc
2004-11-12, 10:31 PM CST
rob- I wish I could help you, but I just purchased my PVR-250 and haven't tried to get it working in Fedora yet. I do know that it wasn't recognized on a clean FC3 install--I couldn't find it listed under any of the system device classes. So I don't know how to advise you. I suspect that we will need to install some of the ivtv drivers to get it recognized, based on the info I have read here:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

See section 10: Get and install capture card drivers.

Sorry I can't be of more specific help, but I'll keep this thread updated if/when I make progress. I'm still hunting for a TV out video card that works with Linux...

robsmachine
2004-11-13, 12:23 AM CST
virusdoc,

thanks for your reply; I will try the wilsonet info's/
To the cards: the BT878 cards are said to be accepted without problem (maybe I will try myself soon ;-)
A card of this spec: Pinnacle PCTV Pro

see you in the forum
rob

robsmachine
2004-11-13, 02:00 AM CST
Additionally:

my lspci -v gives:
00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR 250
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 3
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

In another forum I saw a response stating someone had core2 and this card working..
Will see if can find out who and how..

rob