need a hand :(

[Esteem]

Hello!

I really appreciate your help. I have some problems which I need a guide to go through -.-
I am barely a "user" of Fedora, because I dont know the command and anything. I know that if I need to install the software, I have to "yum" in terminal. But i dont even know what yum means (just to let you know whats my level ..)

Well, I have some annoying problems, which I was able to google and solve somehow, but I really dont know how to delete my keyboard settings! I did it like thousand of times, but after reboot, here we go again -.-
I have CZE2, CZE and USA and I dont want that freakin CZE2 setting. Can somebody tell me how can I get rid of it once and for all ?

then I need to install NVIDIA driver. I found some sollutions on forums, but I dont get it. They are like:
"You have to ctrl+alt+F2 (-okay i got this one), then init 3 so you change your something, then sudo /etc/blabla and yeah! You pwn, everything works now."
"Yeye, thanks for your help, It helped a lot!"

Yeah, I know you do understand that language, because you're a real Linux users, but for me it's a spanish village. There is no tutorial for a total noobs to get some skill in those things? Everybody keep talking about Linux as it's sooo cool and easy OS, but you always forget to mention that for a Windows users, it's like having a bowl of water and wanna make it a swimming pool -.-

I dont want this to be offensive thread, because I really want to learn something and use Fedora, but how can I do that, when I dont understand it and if I ask, everyone's just like:

"Go here -link- there is a problem solved." --- it is accualy NO HELP. It' just linking. Because If somebody is stupid enough to post a newbie "HELP ME" thread, you really do belive that he will understand this stuff which is said in those tutorials you link him on?
I am not complaining on your behavior, Forum users, dont get me wrong. I am just explaining, how it is with me (And accualy I DO belive that its the same for people like me..)

And then I still need a hand :(

I really dont know how to install NVIDIA drivers. I found this:
wget http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/270.41.06/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.06.run
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.06.run

and it looks like it could help me, but if I try to start it, it says
"you appear to be running the X-Server, please disable it"
I dont even know what X-server is for gods sake, how can I disable it ?!!
+ I dont get the

"Boot in to inntd 3 and install "

"Do this...
1.Switch to ctrl+alt+F2
2.Kill X... Type this command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
3.Install the driver
4.Restart X... Type this command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"

.. yeah, the second one looks like it could help me, but when i try to write it in console, its like
"sudo /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found" ................... So?

I dont know if you will be in a hurry to help me after reading this all, but I would be really glad :(

with honor, David..

[smr54]

You might be better off trying Leigh's guide on the forum. Follow it carefully, it should be clear.
Just note that the guide is slightly different for F14, F15, etc., and follow the one for you.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752

When something isn't clear, whether it's too advanced, or if English isn't your first language, post again and someone will do their best to explain.

[scott32746]

Hello,

Fedora is not for anyone just learning. Fedora is a test OS for RedHat. Something like Ubuntu would be better for someone who needs to learn Linux.
But if you look at the top of the forum you see Fedora Set-Up Guides. Fedora Plus program make alot of thing easy to install/setup.

Good luck.

[Esteem]

Thanks a lot, but I found this one before ..
Whats the difference between akmod kmod and PAE kernel?

[scott32746]

kmod is for NVIDA drivers updates
PAE is a 386 kernel update that allows you to use more memory, I am sure it does more but not sure. you can google to get more info.

Name : kmod-nvidia
Arch : x86_64
Epoch : 1
Version : 260.19.36
Release : 1.fc14.3
Size : 32 k
Repo : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
Summary : Metapackage which tracks in nvidia kernel module for newest kernel
URL : http://www.nvidia.com/
License : Redistributable, no modification permitted
Description : This is a meta-package without payload which sole purpose is to
: require the nvidia kernel module(s) for the newest kernel.
: to make sure you get it together with a new kernel.

[smr54]

PAE is for 32 bit systems that have more than 4 GB of memory. It stands for physical address extension, I think. Generally 32 bit systems can't see more than 4GB of memory, and the PAE extension lets them do it. You can see if you have a PAE kernel by typing

uname -r

(This shows your running kernel.)

akmod and kmod are two ways of dealing with kernel modules.

If you use akmod-<whatever> module, it will automatically rebuild the module if you have a new kernel. If you use kmod-<whatever> you will have to rebuild the module yourself after a kernel is updated.

The advantage of kmod is that it uses a little less space, but these days, it's hardly worth it. Using akmod means that you will have the module automatically redone for you when you update a kernel.

[marko]

I know that if I need to install the software, I have to "yum" in terminal. But i dont even know what yum means (just to let you know whats my level ..)
David..

In case this is of historical interest, "yum" is an acronym from "Yellow dog Updater, Modified",

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog_Updater,_Modified

the yum software package installer originated long ago in the Power PC Linux distribution called Yellow Dog. The original tool was called Yellowdog Updater (YUP).
Yellow Dog still exists to this day, but it was interesting in that it forked from Red Hat and so inherited the rpm packaging format but the distribution is for a totally different hardware platform (the Motorola Power PC). Later on YUP was extended and pulled back into Red Hat as YUM (hence the "modified" added to the name)

Unusual command names are a quirk that Linux gets from its UNIX design roots, because UNIX is such an old operating system, in the early days it had no graphical interface. Everything was typed into a serial terminal. Because of this commands are short named to save typing and options are single letter flags. The programmer sometimes decided, "hey, if I have it to name it some short obscure name it might as well be funny", so we got commands like yacc (Yet Another Compiler Compiler), grep (Global Regular Expression Print) and lots more.

[JohnVV]

Hi Esteem
My normal advice for VERY new people to Linux is do not use fedora
WITH these exceptions ( to every rule there are )

IF you WANT to learn by fixing things when they break ( fedora is getting better at NOT breaking) .

IF you DO what to "get your hands dirty " ( think auto mechanic )
in working on a "Research and Development " distro
New versions of programs will break things - fact of life

Fedora uses a LOT of very new code , sometimes SO NEW that there is NO hardware support for it YET .
or SO NEW ( take gcc as an example) that code MUST be hacked/edited/rewrote to work in fedora
This happened when gcc4.5 was FIRST used

So IF you DO want to LEARN the inside of the Operating system , how it works and HOW to fix it when it dose not work -- then use fedora

but YOU WILL need to put in a lot of work .

[stoggy]

I would suggest using Slackware and a fully featured distro like Fedora or SuSE at first. Slackware does less for you, so there is less to get in the way. Sometimes this is really hard though because there is nothing to look at for an example. This is where a fully featured distro can come in handy because it will just do it for you. then you can check the config file or the setup or the ... and do that in slackware. this way you wont get stuck as often but you are still learning how to do it.

slackware will teach you more. read the slackware book its on the slackware site and tldp.org :)

fedora does A LOT for you. chkconfig/service, yum/rpm, /etc/init.d/, premade configs, howtos, gui utils and so much more. Usually these are nice to have but when they dont work and you dont know what is going on you cant fix it. You get none of this in slackware so you learn how to do it for yourself. Not to say that slackware does nothing for you. You can download the source and compile it all yourself but for a newb that is going to be a huge leap. If you like the sound of that though there is always LSF, linux from scratch, a distro that shows you how to start at the VERY beginning. You start with nothing but source code if you take the long route. Expect that to take at least a whole weekend though. This would be a huge leap for a newb though so i wouldn't suggest it.

In Fedora every once in awhile a package update will break something and another package update will fix it. or you find the fix and submit a bug report. but for the most part fedora is pretty stable. Usually if something breaks its your fault. the updates that break things tend to come out the most in the beginning of a version, so when F15 comes out there is a higher probability that a bad update will come out then if you stay in F14. Try beta if you want to see some bugs.


Someone asked me the other day how to make a lv in the gui. I didnt know how to do it, I didn't even know you could do it in the gui. You can in Fedora. I use to slackware but i switched to Fedora because it is like Redhat which is what most businesses are using. I also use SuSE. Coming from slackware i found all the things that Fedora and OpenSuSE do for you rather difficult at first. They always seemed to get in the way and make stuff harder to find. But because i already knew what was suppose to happen because of slackware i was able to figure it out. Now i really like Fedora and SuSE. And i APPRECIATE all the things Fedora and OpenSuSE do for me.