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DarkLite
6th May 2011, 10:58 AM
Hello guys

I'm a new user on the forum and I feel caught between Ubuntu & Fedora. I used Ubuntu for the past 5 years and was always happy with it. But now, I really hate the new Unity DE, it's just not my thing. Maybe in time, things will change but for now I'm using Fedora to the best of my capabilities. And I have to say, it's a really nice distro! I fell in love with Gnome3/shell right from the start. So I guess I have to upgrade my Linux knowledge with RPM-stuff from Fedora. As much as I love the Ubuntu apt-get system with the PPA's, I can no longer use them. So I started to hunt down the RPM-rabbits :)

Then I stumbled upon this great webpage: http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ (RPM Fusion Repo)

However, after searching the forum and other pages I can not seem to understand what RAWHIDE exactly means and what packages are in it.

For the moment I'm working on Fedora 15 Lovelock, which is a beta release. If I enable Rawhide, will my system be upgraded to Ferdora 15 final release in time? Or...

Thanks for you help guys!

PS: I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong topic, but this is Rawhide right?

RahulSundaram
6th May 2011, 11:02 AM
Rawhide is the permanent development branch of Fedora

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide

If you want to install the Fedora 15 beta, you will be on the Fedora 15 branch and updates will lead you to the general release

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final

RPM Fusion Rawhide is the development branch of RPM Fusion which follows Fedora Rawhide. Hope that helps

DarkLite
6th May 2011, 11:50 AM

I guess this piece explained it all:

Starting with Fedora 13, installing an Alpha or Beta milestone puts you on the Branched release path. You shouldn't need to do anything to get the final public release, other than install package updates as they become available. You can use "yum update" or wait for desktop notification. There may be some differences from a fresh install because the installer can do certain things slightly differently than the package update system.

If you have installed Rawhide, you would actually need to downgrade to get the final release, which is not recommended. (It might be easier to wipe the system and install from scratch.)

So this means:
- when RAWHIDE is enabled, you always have the latest packages straight from developpers
(when F15 is final, these packages can be meant for F16)
- if I don't enable RAWHIDE, I will be automatically updated to F15 final
(which is my goal ;))

mschwendt
7th May 2011, 07:18 PM
RPM Fusion Rawhide is the development branch of RPM Fusion which follows Fedora Rawhide.
Not yet. Currently, RPM Fusion's "development" tree stil targets Fedora 15 development. There is no tree at RPM Fusion yet, which targets Rawhide (Fedora 16 development). This is because RPM Fusion has not branched yet.

DarkLite
7th May 2011, 07:39 PM
So this means that when I enable RPM Fusion Rawhide, I will receive updates to arrive finally to Fedora 15 final?

UK2
14th May 2011, 04:35 AM
Hello,

You still want to use Ubuntu with gnome-shell. You can do the following.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install gnome-shell

I use Ubuntu at work and that is what I did. I didn't like the Unity either. I also have Fedora 15 on my personal netbook and that works great with gnome-shell.

However, gnome-shell is still on the unstable release.

Hope that helps,

JohnVV
14th May 2011, 08:33 AM
just BE WARNED
rawhide is the STILL in testing
and might be incompatible with the CURRENT stable

an example
14 is current .In a bit 15 will be out and rawhide will then be 16 ALPHA

so with 14 installed you would be installing 16 TESTING rpm's
requiring DIFFERENT base system files -- like a DIFFERENT glibc

-- not good ---

DarkLite
14th May 2011, 09:44 AM
Thanks for the tips guys! It's getting clear now.

DarkLite
25th May 2011, 08:40 AM
So now Fedora 15 is released I no longer need to add RAWHIDE rpm's but the other ones called 'Free/Non free for Fedora 12,13 and 14' although 15 is not mentioned yet?

http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

Wahlgren
25th May 2011, 08:43 AM
So now Fedora 15 is released I no longer need to add RAWHIDE rpm's but the other ones called 'Free/Non free for Fedora 12,13 and 14' although 15 is not mentioned yet?

http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

Noticed that as well. Someone mentioned in another thread that you can still use the rawhide one because it doesn't contain the development files for Fedora 16 yet. I think it's unsafe to recommend that tho and guess it's better to just wait and hope rpmfusion for Fedora 15 will be released today.

GNowakowski
25th May 2011, 08:50 AM
True.

We can however use F15 Rawhide to do our updates momentarily while RPMFusion branches - Once branched we can simply remove the rpm from the configuration - and add free/15 after the branch.

For those in a hurry that is. Otherwise it may be valuable to wait (if you aren't racing to get the goods).

DarkLite
25th May 2011, 08:51 AM
Thanks Wahlgren, exactly what I was thinking to. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it :)