will all the updates be in the release iso's

[g8jvm]

hi
will all the updates on fc15 be in the release snapshot .

it would be a nice feature if on installing there isnt over 200 updates to download and install.

this didnt happen on fc14, will this be the same on fc15
tia richard

and it all lc as the shift key isnt working on the keyboard

[DBelton]

You aren't going to get an install where there aren't quite a few updates already available when it's released.

The "snapshot" for the install media is frozen at a point, and then it takes time to get the iso images made, tested, etc...

Are you saying that you want them to stop releasing bug fixes and security updates for Fedora during the period after the freeze until it is actually released? Because that would be the only way for there not to be any updates even if you get the install media as soon as it is released.

I know I would much rather have a lot of updates rather than a lot of bugs or security issues. :D

[g8jvm]

You aren't going to get an install where there aren't quite a few updates already available when it's released.

The "snapshot" for the install media is frozen at a point, and then it takes time to get the iso images made, tested, etc...

Are you saying that you want them to stop releasing bug fixes and security updates for Fedora during the period after the freeze until it is actually released? Because that would be the only way for there not to be any updates even if you get the install media as soon as it is released.

I know I would much rather have a lot of updates rather than a lot of bugs or security issues. :D

I don't mind a few, but last release was over 200 !!!!!!!

There iis already 264 on the current beta, which has gone gold.

I'm aware there will always be updates, but the updates a the point its frozen should be included in the iso.

Richard

[AdamW]

when you install a pre-release, the updates-testing repository is enabled by default, but we do _not_ want to use packages from updates-testing in composing pre-release images; this is how we want it to be. The reason you see a lot of updates after installing the Beta is because of this - many of them are coming from updates-testing. (And some are the same as 0-day updates for the final release, they're packages that were pushed to stable after the freeze). There isn't really anything here that we think can profitably be changed.

[oystercatcher]

I will go out on a limb here and guess that fedora is a distribution that expects sufficient bandwidth to allow for large updates.
Dial Up would really be painful these days.

[DBelton]

fedora does have more updates than other distributions mainly due to the fact that it is a "bleeding edge" distro and they tend to push updates that other distro's save back till a new release.

and yes, it would be a little harder to run fedora on a dialup connection. You would probably have to be more selective in what updates you apply instead of just applying all of them.