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glennzo
20th March 2011, 11:56 AM
It seems that the latest round of updates may have hosed my F15 Alpha install. All was well last night but couldn't finish booting the system this morning. So, since I don't really give a hoot about any of my systems I did a complete reinstall of F15A and then a full yum update. Rebooted and again can't complete the boot. Never reaches the desktop. Maybe I should go get some details but meanwhile, anyone else having issues booting Fedora 15 Alpha this fine morning?
flokip
20th March 2011, 01:12 PM
See http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-March/097931.html
"Alternatively, reset your system, boot into runlevel 1, start networking
(systemctl start network.service), yum downgrade rsyslog, and reboot."
Fenrin
20th March 2011, 01:23 PM
tuxor posted two solutions in this thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=259897&page=4
Boricua
20th March 2011, 01:44 PM
See http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-March/097931.html
"Alternatively, reset your system, boot into runlevel 1, start networking
(systemctl start network.service), yum downgrade rsyslog, and reboot."
Hi, I tried this one and worked, thanks :). This happened to me with a Thinkpad T60 and suffered exactly the same fate as the original poster. After the recent updates and before this incident I was having some difficulties shouting down the machine, forcing me to force it. Nos sure if it's related.
glennzo
20th March 2011, 03:08 PM
Yes, I have to force shutdown also.
OK. Flokip's suggestion worked for me. I was his suggestion, no? Anyhow, I booted to runlevel 1, started networking and downgraded rsyslog and rebooted. Here I am. Thank you Flokip.
kiddokun
20th March 2011, 10:44 PM
I have a problem... I am unable to start networking. And I obviously can't run "yum downgrade rsyslog" without a network connection.
I tried "ifup eth0" and "dhclient eth0", but they fail since there is no eth0. When I do a "ifconfig", I only see "lo". I also tried "sysctl start networking.service" to no avail.
I'm stumped. Ideas?
tox
20th March 2011, 10:48 PM
im also finding Systemd or whatever it is does not always complete loading of all services
Lebenskuenstler
20th March 2011, 10:56 PM
I have a problem... I am unable to start networking. And I obviously can't run "yum downgrade rsyslog" without a network connection.
I tried "ifup eth0" and "dhclient eth0", but they fail since there is no eth0. When I do a "ifconfig", I only see "lo". I also tried "sysctl start networking.service" to no avail.
I'm stumped. Ideas?
Hi,
use the LiveCD or Netinst in Rescue-Mode.
In both cases, you will have to mount your root partition with something like this
mount /dev/mapper/vg_XYZ_root /mnt
and then
chroot /mnt
then
yum downgrade rsyslog
LK
GoinEasy9
20th March 2011, 11:16 PM
Isn't this the same problem that was talked about in this thread from post 49 to the end? If you add "systemd.unit=rescue.target" to the end of the kernel line in grub it boots, then executing:
# grep rsyslogd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol
# semodule -i mypol.pp
allows F15 to boot normally again. Saves the hassle of downgrading.
kiddokun
21st March 2011, 12:08 AM
Lebenskuenstler's solution above worked for me. I booted the F15 alpha livecd, used nautilus to mount temporarily my / partition, chrooted into it and ran "yum downgrade rsyslog". The system now boots. Hurray!
Ard Righ
22nd March 2011, 03:45 AM
I have a problem... I am unable to start networking. And I obviously can't run "yum downgrade rsyslog" without a network connection.
I tried "ifup eth0" and "dhclient eth0", but they fail since there is no eth0. When I do a "ifconfig", I only see "lo". I also tried "sysctl start networking.service" to no avail.
I'm stumped. Ideas?
Fedora 15 Alpha renames the connections on my PC.
Have a look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ for the ifcfg-* files.
Mine get renamed to something like "pc8ia" or something wierd
I am not sure but it does this during the bootup process. You can also look through 'dmesg' log to see what happens with the network service
generally 'ifup pc8ia' works on my machine (using the newly renamed config)
DCOH
22nd March 2011, 06:46 AM
It seems to be caused by selinux. Test list says to set selinux to permissive and it will boot up.
tuxor
22nd March 2011, 09:56 AM
It's only indirectly caused by selinux. Actually it has its origin in systemd and rsyslog.
bbfuller
22nd March 2011, 05:18 PM
Thank goodness for this thread!
Quite takes you back to the old times when main Fedora was really cutting edge doesn't it.
smr54
22nd March 2011, 05:54 PM
Hrrm, unneeded, over complicated things that break the basics? Yeah, it does. :D
troyatlarge
23rd March 2011, 03:59 PM
Wow - you guys are fast! I downloaded F15, installed it and ran yum update. All seemed well (and I like the new desktop look) until I went to shut it down ...... it tossed an error saying it didn't have the proper script. When I did get it shut down it would hang upon re-boot.
Going to give it another try today, see if things have improved.
Things I need to maybe be more of a help:
1) my computer id thing posted on here is not correct - that's from an old machine, yet can't seem to figure out how to update it.
2) on boot up, how do you get it to read the old text output as opposed to the splashy blue screen (that way I can report where it hung). Thanks Fedora people - great work people!
Fenrin
23rd March 2011, 07:16 PM
Wow - you guys are fast! I downloaded F15, installed it and ran yum update. All seemed well (and I like the new desktop look) until I went to shut it down ...... it tossed an error saying it didn't have the proper script. When I did get it shut down it would hang upon re-boot.
Going to give it another try today, see if things have improved.
Things I need to maybe be more of a help:
1) my computer id thing posted on here is not correct - that's from an old machine, yet can't seem to figure out how to update it.
2) on boot up, how do you get it to read the old text output as opposed to the splashy blue screen (that way I can report where it hung). Thanks Fedora people - great work people!
1) you can change your signature below User CP --> Edit signature; you're UUID number is rather irrelevant.
2) edit your grub.conf file which is located at /boot/grub/ and remove the tags "rhgb" and (optionally) "quiet" below your Fedora entry and save it.
Alternatively edit the boot line when the grub menu appears. Just press "e" and go to the end of the second line where it says "kernel /boot/vmlinux..." at the beginning. Then remove the "rhgb" and "quiet" tags. If you add 3 to this line it should boot to console mode.
troyatlarge
24th March 2011, 01:35 AM
Thanks for the help. This time I loaded it up, ran sudo yum update, which failed and while trying to figure out why the automatic security update came up and was able to update via it.
Once up I restarted via the terminal "shutdown +0" and rebooted fine, even with the kernel update in the MRB (I gave the MRB to grub from Puppy, thus update by hand).
Now I need to know how to be effective in running F15 for you folks who are developers. Do I simply come and state all the errors I run into? I mean, how best do I serve you in running your Alpha (and Beta) distro's? I'm more than willing to be a lab rat here, just to be a part of it.
Troy
DBelton
25th March 2011, 05:29 PM
troyatlarge, coming in here with problems really isn't the way to get the developers to see it. However, it is a good way to get solutions or workarounds until the developers fix a problem a lot of the times.
To actually report a problem to the developers, you should report it on bugzilla.
A lot of the developers don't even read this forum. There are a few that do, but you can't depend on a developer seeing anything in here.
Now about the reboot problem...
I have had mine hang on reboot.. won't shut down right :(
also, on every boot, it hangs for right at 3 minutes on the "Recreating volatile file systems" stage. At first I though it was completely hung, but I just let it go on for awhile, and it finally finished, but took almost exactly 3 minutes on that one step.
Edit:
Today's updates seem to have fixed my hang at the "Recreating volatile file systems" step :) Also fixed my hanging on reboot, too. Updated this morning and haven't had a re-occurrence since.
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