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arowana
14th March 2011, 08:12 AM
Is there some kind of database for hardware specs to run gnome 3 without fallback?

Want to buy a notebook with Intel 945, 128 MB graphic card, but it has to be capable of running Gnome3? Does anybody know?

Thank you!

tox
14th March 2011, 08:19 AM
have you looked at the Gnome3 website? somehow i dont think you'll be able to run Gnome3 under 128MB videocard . its gonna at least require 512MB if not higher

arowana
14th March 2011, 08:23 AM

Thanks for your quick reply, here is what i found at gnome3.org:

Will my computer be able to run GNOME 3?

Computers purchased in the last 4 or 5 years should be more than capable of running GNOME 3. The GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers capable of this. Do not worry though: GNOME 3 will come complete with a fallback interface which will provide an excellent experience in the absence of hardware acceleration, and which incorporates many of the improvements that can be found in GNOME 3. Furthermore, the GNOME project and its partners are working hard to ensure that the complete GNOME 3 experience is available to as many people as possible, and aim to ensure that users who are initially unable to have this experience will be able to in the future.

tox
14th March 2011, 08:26 AM
Thanks for your quick reply, here is what i found at gnome3.org:

Will my computer be able to run GNOME 3?

Computers purchased in the last 4 or 5 years should be more than capable of running GNOME 3. The GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers capable of this. Do not worry though: GNOME 3 will come complete with a fallback interface which will provide an excellent experience in the absence of hardware acceleration, and which incorporates many of the improvements that can be found in GNOME 3. Furthermore, the GNOME project and its partners are working hard to ensure that the complete GNOME 3 experience is available to as many people as possible, and aim to ensure that users who are initially unable to have this experience will be able to in the future.

they would mean New Computers bought 4 to 5 years ago. not old Hardware unless you can get a bigger Videocard for that laptop it may run it

glennzo
14th March 2011, 08:31 AM
Running Fedora 15 Alpha with Gnome 3 on a 4 year old Toshiba Satellite. Only thing non-stock is 2GB ram instead of the factory 1GB. Here's the graphics info:
[glenn@15alpha ~]$ lspci | grep -i vga
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Works quite well.

arowana
14th March 2011, 08:35 AM
Read somewhere that it is able to do something called "aero" under windows, maybe it is something similar. Dont know about hardware accelerated graphics. The notebook should be within the 5 year range, maybe someone tried it already or can explain?

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Running Fedora 15 Alpha with Gnome 3 on a 4 year old Toshiba Satellite. Only thing non-stock is 2GB ram instead of the factory 1GB. Here's the graphics info:

Works quite well.

Sounds good! Thank you!

DokterW
14th March 2011, 01:06 PM
http://gnome3.org/faq.html

Will my computer be able to run GNOME 3?

Computers purchased in the last 4 or 5 years should be more than capable of running GNOME 3. The GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers capable of this. Do not worry though: GNOME 3 will come complete with a fallback interface which will provide an excellent experience in the absence of hardware acceleration, and which incorporates many of the improvements that can be found in GNOME 3. Furthermore, the GNOME project and its partners are working hard to ensure that the complete GNOME 3 experience is available to as many people as possible, and aim to ensure that users who are initially unable to have this experience will be able to in the future.

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have you looked at the Gnome3 website? somehow i dont think you'll be able to run Gnome3 under 128MB videocard . its gonna at least require 512MB if not higher

From their faq it says: "GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers capable of this."

So I don't think memory is an issue here.

AdamW
15th March 2011, 09:07 PM
An i945 should work fine. Actually in the test days we had a couple of people report that i8xx chips were working, which was a pleasant surprise, but i9xx should definitely be fine.

arowana
16th March 2011, 02:51 AM
thanks for your reply, will give you feedback about details later

arowana
19th March 2011, 08:48 PM
An i945 should work fine. Actually in the test days we had a couple of people report that i8xx chips were working, which was a pleasant surprise, but i9xx should definitely be fine.

Just to confirm, like AdamW said intel945 works fine, really.

The big issue i have now is to adjust the font size as my display is 12 inch with 1200x800. Somewhere at gnome.org i read something about Human Interface Guidelines being applied to MacOS and Gnome. Hard to believe for Gnome3.

Fenrin
19th March 2011, 09:16 PM
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The big issue i have now is to adjust the font size as my display is 12 inch with 1200x800. ....

you can make the font size larger if you want it larger. Below System Settings->Universal Access->Seeing

arowana
19th March 2011, 09:29 PM
you can make the font size larger if you want it larger. Below System Settings->Universal Access->Seeing

thank you Fenrin, will follow your advice

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Still i think this human interface stuff is cr*p in Gnome3. For the Designteam i know they can explain every decision, as every designer can find reasons backing up his work. Just because you can explain it, does not mean you are right. Hope Gnome Team can find ways to improve it as they move on.

DokterW
22nd March 2011, 08:56 AM
Just tried the LiveCD from gnome3.org on my Eee PC 701 and GNOME 3 works just fine. So to me it doesn't seem that you need some massive super computer to get it running.

sulley
23rd March 2011, 01:29 PM
Tried on 865PE mainboard, NVidia GF6200, only support fallback mode

DokterW
24th March 2011, 05:45 AM
Tried on 865PE mainboard, NVidia GF6200, only support fallback mode

Did you use the LiveCD? With the LiveCD F15 Alpha looks horrible on my 701, but with a nightly from 210311 GNOME3 works.

sulley
24th March 2011, 12:33 PM
Did you use the LiveCD? With the LiveCD F15 Alpha looks horrible on my 701, but with a nightly from 210311 GNOME3 works.

Yes, I used with LiveCD. You means if I not use LiveCD then it maybe works on my computer? I have tried on my notebook T61, seems work fine.
Thanks your information. I will try this later.

DokterW
24th March 2011, 12:38 PM
Yes, I used with LiveCD. You means if I not use LiveCD then it maybe works on my computer? I have tried on my notebook T61, seems work fine.
Thanks your information. I will try this later.

Yeah, the nightly has the latest updates, so give that a try, just to check.
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/
or try
http://gnome3.org/tryit.html

sulley
25th March 2011, 12:49 PM
Yeah, the nightly has the latest updates, so give that a try, just to check.
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/
or try
http://gnome3.org/tryit.html

Oh, really wonderful, it's work fine.
Thanks

DBelton
25th March 2011, 05:42 PM
I had trouble getting the Gnome3 shell to work on 4 of my boxes using the LiveCD. 2 of them were intel G31's, one was a nvidia geforce 210 with 1GB ram, and one was a geforce 7300GT with 512 mb ram. None of them would run the Gnome3 shell from the liveCD. But, when I did an install, then the shell worked fine on all of them.